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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 02:31 PM Mar 2015

Photographer Captures What Male Entitlement Feels Like to Women Who Experience It

“Boundaries” is a project by photographer Allaire Bartel that aims to capture what it feels like to be a woman in an atmosphere of male entitlement.

The Pittsburgh-based photographer tells us that the project started last year during a mentoring program that had “boundaries” as the theme. At the time, there was a lot of discussion online about what it meant to be a woman in a man’s world, and plenty of stories of violence and abuse against women.

Bartel says she wanted to create a series of photos that interpreted the conversation in her own way — photos that could express the idea that the oppression of women isn’t only found in extreme isolated incidents that make the news (things like rape or abuse), but that the effects can be “felt in lesser forms during the day to day.”

She therefore captured a series of photos showing an average, young, professional woman in routing daily situations. “The concept of male entitlement is represented by male arms and hands performing a variety of actions that are overwhelmingly intrusive on her body and her life,” Bartel says.

“In each situation she maintains a blank expression, a visual choice that demonstrates how conditioned we as women have become to accept this atmosphere as excusable and even normal. A slightly hyper-real post processing style was implemented to emphasize that these actions, whether large or small, all perpetuate the idea that ‘woman’ does not mean the same thing as ‘human.'”


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Photographer Captures What Male Entitlement Feels Like to Women Who Experience It (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2015 OP
Thanks for this post. chervilant Mar 2015 #1
I hope everbody nichomachus Mar 2015 #2
Men are shaped by patriarchal precepts, as much as are women. chervilant Mar 2015 #3
cause you have no justification, validation for condoning or challenging said mentality... you MUST seabeyond Mar 2015 #4
I can't believe I just read that in HOF JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #5
Oh bullshit ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #7
an admirer of Putin BainsBane Mar 2015 #22
sarcasm fail. save it for GD. we have HoF for a reason. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #16
What about the photographs specifically leads you to believe as such? LanternWaste Mar 2015 #21
Oh Sweet Lord those are powerful ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #6
Here is what it is like to actually experience male privilege in the workplace - djean111 Mar 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #11
... cyberswede Mar 2015 #12
Thanks for sharing your story Pooka Fey Mar 2015 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #9
Tick tock. cyberswede Mar 2015 #10
Afraid to ask what I missed...... djean111 Mar 2015 #13
Have you ever stepped in dog doo? It was like that. cyberswede Mar 2015 #14
LOL! ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #17
Being male, I find it a very interesting perspective GeoWilliam750 Mar 2015 #18
Went on a trip to Spain with a group from my office many years ago. We were asked to djean111 Mar 2015 #20

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
3. Men are shaped by patriarchal precepts, as much as are women.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:24 PM
Mar 2015

Devolving this discussion into "all men are horrible creatures" is a red herring, and a rather stale one.

Might you try to understand what the artist intends to convey? That might serve you better than reacting defensively.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. cause you have no justification, validation for condoning or challenging said mentality... you MUST
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:28 PM
Mar 2015

take it to ALL men for your argument.

truly..... brilliant.

JustAnotherGen

(31,781 posts)
5. I can't believe I just read that in HOF
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015


That's for GD - not back here.

I don't want to read that bullshit in HOF.
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. What about the photographs specifically leads you to believe as such?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 05:19 PM
Mar 2015

What about the photographs specifically leads you to believe as such?

Or is it that (and I find this somewhat more likely) you simply felt the desire to vent about something you know very little of...?

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
8. Here is what it is like to actually experience male privilege in the workplace -
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:29 PM
Mar 2015

I resigned from a clerical job at State Farm, after being there for maybe four years, late sixties, to accept
a job as a programmer, at an insurance company. When I inquired about being a programmer at State Farm, I was first condescendingly told to take the logic test. Aced the test, then was told I could not be a programmer because my husband was a programmer, and they did not let husbands and wives work in the same department. So, I applied for a programmer trainee job at this insurance company, aced a different logic test, and during the interview I was asked if I was using birth control, because they sure didn't want me to get all trained and then get pregnant.

When I turned in my resignation at State Farm, the manager three levels up from my supervisor walked up to my desk and told me if I was a real woman, I would stay in my job until I started having babies and stayed home. My supervisor told me that my scores on the aptitude tests I took when I first applied for a job at State Farm were so high that if I were a man, I would have been put right into the management track. Instead, I got what was a very demeaning job as a clerk. I believe that, after I was long gone, a group of women successfully sued State Farm over their treatment of women. Oh, and a (female, of course) clerk in my group had an affair with a married supervisor and was found out - official company policy was that she lost her job.

I accepted this all as normal, but could not help seeing men as patronizing obstacles to be somehow evaded.

New programming job - even after I became Senior Programmer, a couple of the guys would wait until someone else was around to ask advice about a program, because they hated asking a woman. When any of the other programmers - all guys - were taking out a fleet car for a training trip or whatever, I was asked to got up to the third floor and get the keys. After a while I asked why, they said the fleet guys liked to see me walk. I was asked to train to back up the secretary and the tape librarian, found out that up until I was hired, they just backed each other up because it was woman's work.

Funniest thing - after thirteen years of this, and realizing I was never going to get past senior programmer, I answered an ad that was looking for someone to learn HP/3000. Tired of mainframes, I applied and got the job. First week - had a meeting with my boss, the controller, my co-worker, and an outside sales rep. Boss asked the receptionist to get paper and pencils, and asked me to make coffee. I said oh, I don't know how to make coffee. He reddened, then went and made the coffee. He actually APOLOGIZED afterwards, saying he was sorry it looked sexist. I told him the truth - I did not know how to make coffee. Still don't.

Things were a bit better at the giant telecom I ended up working at - got to move around the country, got to work overseas. Got to be one of the first women in purely technical groups, in North Carolina, where sexism is an art and a way of life. Still an atmosphere where, walking into a meeting about sexism in the workplace, a supervisor laughed and said hey, now I will learn to do sexism correctly. In the middle nineties.

I am not a misogynist. I love men. I don't hate them. I do try to never put myself in a position where I have to trust them in the workplace. That's how male privilege has affected me.

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GeoWilliam750

(2,521 posts)
18. Being male, I find it a very interesting perspective
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 09:21 AM
Mar 2015

Thank you very much.

Also, somewhat random thought, but what I believe to be a very simple example of what so many women have to deal with every day, is that when women walk down the street of cities and towns, they almost invariably need to keep their eyes down, because eye contact will commonly be regarded as an invitation to approach by strangers, usually very much unwanted.

Although I am somewhat uncertain as how to best say this, it is as though so many women must make their world smaller or else risk far worse consequences.



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
20. Went on a trip to Spain with a group from my office many years ago. We were asked to
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:45 AM
Mar 2015

gather in the hotel lobby the night we got there for a little information session.
We were told that we would be constantly "appreciated", catcalls, whistles, even a strange hissing sound, pretty much wherever we went. And the important thing was - do not look any guy hissing or whatever in the eyes if you can hep it. Evidently looking someone in the eyes would be interpreted as "Yes! I would certainly like to have sex with you!".
So, yeah.

We did have a really good time, followed the rules, etc.

My 20 YO grandson gets angry because he thinks all women think all men are rapists or whatever. I told him no, we do not. But then again, we must always be careful, because rapists don't exactly have identifying marks. I tried to liken it to telling children to not talk to strangers. Most strangers are perfectly fine, but all a child needs to do is meet one bad stranger.

Thank you for your reply!

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