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What exactly has been keeping HRC from this spirited debate when the candidtes have met? (Original Post) onecaliberal Jan 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Jan 2016 #1
Now That She's Losing... Now HRC Wants to Debate... DESPERATION!!! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #2
And not just any kind of debate Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #5
You mean DWS's as-few-debates-as-we-can-get-away-with policy has failed? Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #17
The underdog always does. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #11
Kand R!!! CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #3
Internal polling! morningfog Jan 2016 #4
Exactly. wilsonbooks Jan 2016 #6
Let's hope. We know it's bad in the first two states. morningfog Jan 2016 #8
Check out this one wilsonbooks Jan 2016 #9
Holy shit. That's not a very big sample size, but Hillary's lead is barely more than the MOE. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #16
Not a coronation anymore? RobertEarl Jan 2016 #7
I don't know. I hope when she engages she does it with her stern, low pitched "I'm so angry" voice. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #10
I'm glad you mentioned it. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #18
She could debate herself out of both sides of her mouth. Fuddnik Jan 2016 #12
She does. 840high Jan 2016 #13
^^That right there^^ onecaliberal Jan 2016 #20
Her standing in the polls, then vs. now. That's the alpha and omega, and neatly explains everything. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #14
Not gonna beat around the bush here... retrowire Jan 2016 #15
She's been on every side of the issues at least once. onecaliberal Jan 2016 #19
I think she challenged Bernie to a drinking match hootinholler Jan 2016 #21

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
17. You mean DWS's as-few-debates-as-we-can-get-away-with policy has failed?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jan 2016

But DINO-Debbie is so good at rigging games! Surely her arsenal of dirty tricks and clever stunts is not exhausted yet?

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. Let's hope. We know it's bad in the first two states.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jan 2016

But it has been for a while. I hope this mans Hillary's expensive internal polling shows national and other states are closing.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. Not a coronation anymore?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:50 AM
Jan 2016

Reality snuck up on her and scared her silly?

Bill advised her she is in trouble?

She thinks if she can get Bernie to imbibe in spirits he will make a mistake?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
18. I'm glad you mentioned it.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:16 AM
Jan 2016

I try to restrain myself, but her voice is better than 2008, but still really awful.

I studied singing and sang from the time I was very small. Also played a couple of instruments and majored in music.

They say some people have faces for radio. Well, Hillary Clinton has a voice for a chemistry classroom. It's dry, doesn't seem to connect to her body or feelings, limited in range and timbre and expression.

Her problems with her voice suggest two things to me. First, she may not be a really good listener -- maybe more of a reader. Second, and this can be easily misunderstood, but she lacks integrity between her mind and her body. Her voice kind of gives away the fact that, while she may in her own life, share her deep and honest feelings with others, she has difficulty baring her emotions and risking herself when she speaks to crowds. She may have difficulty with that in her personal life, but that is not necessarily the case.

She sounds cold and calculating. Her laugh, her cackle laugh, is just begging to be used in some sort of cruel opposition video.

I'm sorry, but your voice is as much a part of your communication as is your choice of words. I've heard worse, but Hillary's is, in my opinion, probably not good enough for the presidency.

Compare to Trump. A fool, but when he speaks, he sounds genuine and vulnerable.

That's the problem for Hillary. She does not sound vulnerable and intimate enough. She sounds arrogant and cold. I could be wrong, but I think that is a big, big problem for her.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
15. Not gonna beat around the bush here...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jan 2016

She probably thinks she's got an ace in the hole and intends to use it in the next debate.

onecaliberal

(32,489 posts)
19. She's been on every side of the issues at least once.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

All Bernie has to do is point out that her positions change and then change back.

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
21. I think she challenged Bernie to a drinking match
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jan 2016

The campaign staffers are working on if it's beer, wine, vodka, tequilla, bourbon or the candidate's choice.

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