2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI'm new here. But, I've been reading all of the posts
that say that every little gaff is the end of Romney. But I didn't think that all of them really meant that it was the end of his campaign.
Today, I believe and agree that this video is going to be a turning point.
Yes, the Pubs will try to spin his words, but I cannot believe that intelligent people (and infortunately there are too many that aren't) will see this as anything other than his simple desire to be President, because as an uber-rich, heartless person, he can't think of another goal to reach. He has it all financially. He has the backing of the rest of the uber-rich, for their own enrichment.
I can't help but think to myself..."How much money does a person need?" I don't think it is about money as much as it is an desire for control. Which probably constitutes something of a personality disorder. Anti-socials, egomaniacs, sociopaths.
What drives a person to disregard those less fortunate in order to keep them "in their place" while they bath in the riches that they have either inherented or have stolen from those less fortunate.
They are not opportunists. They are thieves. No thief needs to understand numbers or statistics. They just know how to con others out of what they have.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)BattyDem
(11,075 posts)Like you, I often think, "Don't they have enough? How much do they need?" It's greed for the sake of being greedy. There's no purpose for it. They don't want to help people or make the world a better place. In fact, they seem to get some kind of perverse pleasure in doing the exact opposite. They are just ... empty.
Welcome to DU!
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)for your welcome.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)Because of their obsessive/compulsive need for more, More, MORE.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)He can never get "enough". Nothing will ever satisfy him - he will always be looking for a way to get more, preferably from someone already struggling.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)gordianot
(15,259 posts)Next time a Republican complains about classwar there is "no excuse Romney" to kick around in his Nixonian nightmare.
KT2000
(20,605 posts)to serve themselves and want even more. They want declining wages, impoverished retirees and the satisfaction of shaming those who they have made poor. Those bankrupted by medical costs is nothing that needs to be corrected.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)This reminds me of being in High School. When the girls in my class would diss those like myself, making fun of me because I was from a poor family and they weren't...and my clothes weren't as cool as theirs. I wasn't invited to all the parties they were invited to because of that. I lived in near poverty, but never thought so, because I didn't know I was. It only became apparent to me at that time that there were people that held those with such contempt. I was never aware of it until that time.
Superficial nonsense that means nothing. I would really like to know where those girls are now and what they are doing. Especially since I am one of those folks that Romney thinks so little of, but have managed to be successful and managed to put two kids through college who are already on the road to having a better life than I did. AND I pay LOTS of taxes. Of which I have never complained about.
xxqqqzme
(14,887 posts)your staement about paying taxes reminded me... I once worked at a small independent oil refinery. The CFO often said his ambition was to pay more taxes than anyone else.
I always liked that.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Response to KT2000 (Reply #7)
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)It's a shame and disgusting.
I agree with your assessment, but tend to view politics pessimisticly.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)And your thoughts.
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Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)A gaffe is something embarassing but trivial. Obama saying he's been to all 57 states was a gaffe. Bush's "is our children learning?" was a gaffe. Poppy's upping some chuck into the Japanese PM's lap was a gaffe. Clinton saying "I never inhaled" was a gaffe.
Romney has stated his intent to abdicate presidental responsibility to half the nation. On top of his statements that he will throw us into a third middle eastern war. On top of his tax evasion and vulture capitalism.
These aren't gaffes, these are fucking bombs. And the Romney campaign is the one dropping them on the Romney campaign.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)that gaffs are that simple. Gaffs are sometimes words that come from one's true convictions. I would say that gaffs can be good or bad, but gaffs are inherently bad. Though sometimes, like some typos I read here are gaffs (or typos) make a better point than the original intent. Some are hilariously accurate, despite themselves.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Well done and well thought out.
Terrific!
Welcome to DU!
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Just don't talk to me in the morning until I've had at least two cups.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)Nobody is allowed to speak to me until I get that one under my belt. Welcome to DU and thank you for your post.
I think Mittens thought he could buy the White House for himself just like he acquired businesses. I'm now wondering if his billionaire buddies will decide to cut their losses and put the checkbooks away.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...they have too much invested at this point. They will keep what is often said "throwing good money after bad."
This ain't Vegas where when you toss more money on the table doesn't mean the house doesn't have the advantage.
Yet they will.
Aristus
(66,530 posts)I enjoyed reading your short bio upthread. It brought back memories of growing up middle class, but living (in a leased house) in a tony oil-money neighborhood in Houston. I went to an upscale public school with a lot of rich kids. My clothes were never good enough. I couldn't go to the fancy nouveau-riche parties, etc.
I made a pretty good life for myself, nevertheless, and I sometimes wonder what happened to all the snotty kids I went to school with back then; what happened to them after the oil bust of the mid-80's.
Anyway, thanks for your post...
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I grew up in San Angelo. Houston was MAJOR metropolitan city compared to my little sorta city.
Aristus
(66,530 posts)I was born in San Antonio (Brooke Army Medical Center), and moved around a lot as a kid. My dad's last duty station was Fort Lewis, WA. After he retired, we moved to Houston, where he worked for a major corporation, but without the major corporate salary.
Hated it. (And Houston - nothing like San Antonio...)
We moved back to the Northwest, and now I call the Greater Seattle area my home.
(Still say "y'all", though. And will till the day I die.)
"fixin."
My family and most friends have significant affiliation with the military. My son spent two tours in Iraq.
Aristus
(66,530 posts)How's your son; is he all right?
Thank you for asking. Though he is still an 18 year old in a 27 year old body. Boys!!! Sheesh!!
Still a great kid. Treats his mom very well.
Nothing better than to know he made it home safe. Very stressful time.
Aristus
(66,530 posts)Better than being old before his time, I guess.
What was his MOS? I was a 19Kilo; an M1A1 tanker. I was in the Gulf in 1991. I can't imagine doing two tours. That must have been brutal...
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)I wish I could remember. What I can say is Command Post.
gopiscrap
(23,768 posts)we should try to have a DU get together and work on getting folks to help in the campaign...Peace-Mike C
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...I live in Northern Virginia now.
Skittles
(153,311 posts)Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...kids....etc.
Better late than never, eh?
Skittles
(153,311 posts)I CONSTANTLY feel like I have no time and all I have is two cats!!!
gopiscrap
(23,768 posts)Welcome to DU like your post!!!
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)mzmolly
(51,019 posts)to DU.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)Nice to be welcomed.
appleannie1
(5,082 posts)him is missing and he tries to fill it with money. But even that does not satisfy him so he constantly wants more.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I thought that Romney's rendition of Mr. Bean takes a holiday should have tanked his career. But, he has a lot of people that support him, just because he is a Republican and he is takin on the libruls. This really should do it though. I think there are some people that can put two and two together still and realize that they will need SS and that their children will need or are getting student loans. Or that maybe it's a good thing that their son/daughter with asthma can now get health insurance easier. Anyway, I will be checking on the polls in a few days to see if this latest, I hate the poor screed, has taken effect.
calimary
(81,608 posts)that have been written, mainly since the RNC's CONvention, but one never likes to count chickens and all that...
That said, the last week or so has been quite full of really glaring errors, revelatory errors that rip the cover off that man behind the curtain. And by now it's not just one isolated incident. It's a Bizarro World string of pearls. More gaffes and blunders and pearl-clutching seemingly by the DAY. And it starts to combine into a fuller picture, all of it - um - shall we say unimpressive.
And the secretly recorded video - in which he's talking behind closed doors where the press isn't supposed to go and everybody's been well-vetted and no "undesirables" are allowed. He's talking to his own, the only people he really cares about, and showing his real self. I don't know if he can recover from this one. This may be just one callous blunder too many.
Glad you're here! We need you!
Now get to work.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)For some reason, I suspect that there is more to come. That the close we get to Election Day, the more likely it is that we will have yet another bombshell.
bluesbassman
(19,387 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 18, 2012, 03:36 AM - Edit history (1)
Yes, I do believe this video will change a lot of minds. It is funny seeing the 'pugs doing verbal gymnastics trying to spin this though.
BTW, veteran here and damn glad your son made it home safe and sound.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)..for your service. I wan't allowed to because of health reasons. So. I do so in other ways.
Meandering1
(36 posts)Huge money gets made in Republican fundraising. Plenty of cash gets pilfered, redirected and outright stolen from gullible people. Hey, they're Republicans aren't they? "A fool and his money are soon parted".
Romney was simply the put up job. The pitcher you send to the mound in the ninth inning when you're down eight or more runs. Bob Dole was kinda like this in 1996. They have to run SOMEBODY.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)has a double-digit ERA, things are pretty dim. However, you must stay on your guard lest this fellow pushes a fastball past you while looking.
I love baseball. Go Nats!
LilSol
(50 posts)Welcome
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)Thanks.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)and in a more just world, the end to any political career at all.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)but I never underestimate the power that is based in mega-money. And, I fear the idea that the election can be bought and purchased... justifying, in someway... the means in some shape or form.
I hate that I live in a society that lives in such a world. Worse, that our citizens have become so polarized, so brainwashed, so ignorant...that they don't recognize that they have given up their ability to think for themselves because it is easier than drawing their own conclusions.
Will that trend ever stop or are we doomed to face and fight that during every exection cycle?
tavalon
(27,985 posts)On their side, thanks to the treasonous Supreme Court, they have Citizens United and unlimited money in politics. But, our side knows how to use the new media far better than their side. I think, for now, until the Rhinosaurs make it into the 21st century, we still have a small edge, a small, viral, edge.
Welcome to DU, BTW. There are some scary smart people here. Hopefully, it will restore your hope, especially when you realize that many are not just keyboard warriors but actual boots on the ground activists.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...I was the go-to person for new-media.
But after many years and different jobs which didn't require their use, I have lost the edge. My hubby has decided I'm a Luddite. I'm lucky to figure out how to "www" stuff.
It's so not fair that he, being 6 years older than me, is much better at it than I am! I have issues with that. I've told him so, too.
But when necessary....I'm not so inept. I can, sometimes, rise to the occasion!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)oldsarge54
(582 posts)Check out information about the Gilded Age and Robber barons. Mark Twain does a really good job in his novel looking at the Republican fantasy of "the good old days." You might want to check out the progressives, Theodore Roosevelt, and bull moose. For the most part, leave the internet alone on this. I think, both in what he is against, and what Obama is trying to do, will be found in those general pictures of US history normally forgotten in the classroom.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)align with any other major religion, because they all put the less fortunate ahead of self. The unapologetic rich betray whatever religion they claim to belong to. rMoney really doesn't give a shit about anything but wealth and power.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,075 posts)Harry_Scrote
(121 posts)Sniff, sniff... Welcome to DU. I'm new myself. And may I say you're short bio touched my heart. I, too, grew up poor and suffered ill treatment from my peers for it. Hell, I'm STILL poor. But one thing I've always HAD was empathy. So many people today seem to lack it, would you agree?