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Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:42 AM

The Reformed Lumenprole Check In and Appreciation Thread

Oy.....one of the greatest posts eva.

http://jackpineradicals.org/showthread.php?821-The-Smartest-Gal-in-the-Big-Tent

My emojis went on strike because the other ones are so much more interesting.

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SandersDem Dec 2015 OP
840high Dec 2015 #1
NuclearDem Dec 2015 #2
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3
Divernan Dec 2015 #4
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #5
Divernan Dec 2015 #7
Divernan Dec 2015 #8
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #30
rpannier Dec 2015 #6
merrily Dec 2015 #31
rpannier Dec 2015 #46
merrily Dec 2015 #47
joshcryer Dec 2015 #9
Divernan Dec 2015 #10
joshcryer Dec 2015 #11
merrily Dec 2015 #32
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #12
joshcryer Dec 2015 #14
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #16
joshcryer Dec 2015 #20
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #21
joshcryer Dec 2015 #22
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #23
joshcryer Dec 2015 #24
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #25
joshcryer Dec 2015 #26
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #27
merrily Dec 2015 #36
Katashi_itto Dec 2015 #53
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #33
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #34
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #35
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #37
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #40
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #42
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #38
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #39
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #43
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #44
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #45
merrily Dec 2015 #48
JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #56
Bobbie Jo Dec 2015 #60
merrily Dec 2015 #69
JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #82
Number23 Dec 2015 #86
SwampG8r Dec 2015 #80
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #58
ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #55
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #57
Cha Dec 2015 #59
JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #68
BainsBane Dec 2015 #79
senz Dec 2015 #66
Number23 Dec 2015 #84
Autumn Dec 2015 #54
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #73
Autumn Dec 2015 #76
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #78
joshcryer Dec 2015 #13
jfern Dec 2015 #15
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #17
jfern Dec 2015 #18
beam me up scottie Dec 2015 #19
merrily Dec 2015 #41
djean111 Dec 2015 #28
edgineered Dec 2015 #29
merrily Dec 2015 #49
edgineered Dec 2015 #65
merrily Dec 2015 #74
Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #50
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #51
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #61
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #62
Ichingcarpenter Dec 2015 #63
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #64
DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2015 #70
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #72
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NCTraveler Dec 2015 #77
Number23 Dec 2015 #85
JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #87
Number23 Dec 2015 #89
JustAnotherGen Dec 2015 #90
NCTraveler Dec 2015 #88
JackInGreen Dec 2015 #52
Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #67
Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #71
frylock Dec 2015 #81
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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:31 AM

1. oy - k/r

 

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:35 AM

3. Saw a post from that site where...

 

They were bragging about getting Clinton supporters hides here. Really good company he is keeping.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:23 AM

4. 1 post referring to 1 Clinton supporter - in early a.m. - removed by mods within a few hours

And notice given to all members of that site, to not post anything like that again. Same can't be said for the Clinton Cave, or whatever that supersecret site is, can it kiddo?

Of course you knew all this already - it's been hashed out on DU before.

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Response to Divernan (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:32 AM

5. You saw it also.

 

Excellent.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:41 AM

7. I saw that you just lied.

There was only one post, not multiple "posts". As a lawyer, I am confident that your statement qualifies as a lie, i.e, a material misrepresentation of fact. And remember, folks, the truth (that she lied) is an absolute defense to any charge of slander or libel!

And as you know it got removed very quickly. Glad you're keeping a close eye on that site - you might get converted to the light side. Here's the guideline:

Some guidance re talking about other forums and their members

Welcome again to the new JackpineRadicals.org forums!

Our new community aims to be the best place online to discuss the awesome Bernie Sanders and our current presidential race. We're also here to discuss and critique our US government and talk about what we need to do in order to go further left for the betterment of our nation.

Most all of us have an axe to grind with our former online home but please discuss it privately among yourselves (ie in PMs) instead of going public with it on the board. This kind of disarray can be used against us, is a troll magnet and isn't very attractive to Bernie supporters from other communities we want to attract so we will not tolerate negative talk about other online communities and their members. They're simply not that interesting! We have enough material with everything Hillary is doing wrong, the DNC and its corruption, etc...

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:55 AM

8. Yes. "It", not "them". One, not more than one.

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Response to Divernan (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:37 AM

30. Glad you saw it.

 

You shouldn't whitewash the other comments there either. One of their more recent members lobbied for MCCain/Palin over Obama. Between you and I, pretty sure the Palindrome pick is what finally sold them. Ohh well. At least we don't have to read that stuff here. They try to get Clinton supporters hides as you agree with and welcome people who openly supported McCain/Palin. DI would have been a good fit for them as well.

Enough about other blogs. Have a wonderful Tuesday.

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Response to Divernan (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 03:35 AM

6. Of course you didn't find it

Last edited Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:00 AM - Edit history (1)

You have to lift the hinge on the bust of Shakespeare, flip the switch, the secret door opens and you slide down the pole

If you don't get the reference, you were probably not born in the 50's or 60's

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Response to rpannier (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:39 AM

31. Dan Brown, is that you?



Sounds like an excerpt from one of the Da Vince Code films.

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Response to merrily (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:59 AM

46. Batman TV Series

Opened up to the Batcave

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Response to rpannier (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:05 AM

47. Still sounds like the DaVinci Code series to me!

I see you fixed your typo "lift the hinge on the nust of Shakespeare" to "lift the hinge on the bust of Shakespeare." I had assumed nust was a typo for a different word.



You could have colored me quizzical.

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Response to Divernan (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:06 AM

9. Actually, the rule there is to "take it to PM."

"Most all of us have an axe to grind with our former online home but please discuss it privately among yourselves (ie in PMs) instead of going public with it on the board."


HCS actually changed their callout rule. It's actually ironic, DU actually allows you to call out other sites, even DI, but those other sites don't allow it, because they don't want to hurt their image.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:07 AM

10. It is a suggestion - not a rule.

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Response to Divernan (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:15 AM

11. I'm sure the PMs are flying about.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:40 AM

32. How can you possibly be sure? I doubt it. Too much else is going on at that board.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:16 AM

12. Has the owner of that site changed the rule to restrict anti-Semitism to pms?

We know the owner was encouraging members to alert stalk DUers:





And called people "ignorant white trailer trash":





But the bigotry towards Bernie was despicable, here is a thread accusing Bernie of being funded by Israel:





And here they are claiming a Jewish candidate is supported by Stormfront, a neo-Nazi hate group:





When you can find screenshots of the owners of JPR repeatedly encouraging alert stalking, racism and anti-Semitic conspiracy theories you can compare the two sites.

Until then maybe you should lecture your friends about what hurt their image and earned it the title "anti-Semitic hate site".

Just a suggestion.


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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:25 AM

14. I'm not "friends with" the HCS people.

They wouldn't even let me join up (and I guarantee you that the JPR site won't let me join up because it's run by someone who literally cannot sleep at night with how much they loathe me).

I called out both sites for this crap. I just thought it was charming the administrator suggested to keep the vile shit to PMs, as it already is anyway.

I feel confident where I stand. Let it go.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:28 AM

16. Really? Then how can you claim "HCS actually changed their callout rule"?

Let it go.


I'd be more than happy to but you were the one who decided to slander JPR like it's in any way comparable to Bill's hate site.

If you don't like the heat maybe you should stay out of the kitchen.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:34 AM

20. Um, the rules are publicly posted?

And it happened right after I called out Bill for that shit, btw, I'd like to think that I was personally responsible for that. They deleted their little DU bashing forum that same week.

I didn't "slander" JPR, I pointed out that it was said to take the veiled shit to PM. And I quoted it exactly.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:40 AM

21. So you don't know that for a fact? Interesting.

And it happened right after I called out Bill for that shit, btw, I'd like to think that I was personally responsible for that. They deleted their little DU bashing forum that same week.


Why would they delete it because of your callout when it went on for months?


I didn't "slander" JPR, I pointed out that it was said to take the veiled shit to PM. And I quoted it exactly.


Seems like you're defending one site without any facts and making claims about another also without any facts.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:01 AM

22. Mighty big coincidence.

And I said I'd like to think that I was responsible. I don't know if they deleted it because I said they needed to or not, but it was deleted and the rule change happened after I said that it wasn't going to be good if they wanted to be mainstream.

And how am I defending one site above the other? Because one directs people to take their shit to PM? I guess so, then.

I'm a proud DUer, not an HCSer or JPRer. I've been here over a decade. My skin is thick and I can take the worst of the worst. And I'm glad that DU holds a host of opinions rather than sycophancy. If DU was like either site I would not come here nor would I want to be associated.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #22)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:08 AM

23. HCS' owner encouraged and applauded alert stalking and bigotry towards a Jewish candidate.

The owners of JPR simply do not allow that kind of behaviour on their website yet you're still trying to claim the latter is just as bad for some reason.

Isn't that like saying DU is just as bad as FreeRepublic even though that site encourages bigotry while this one forbids it?





Bottom line: When you start something don't expect others to "let it go". If that one post is going to be used to condemn JPR using the guilt by association fallacy be prepared to see these screenshots again and again.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #23)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:18 AM

24. Erm.

I quoted the relevant text. It's stated by a site administrator. If you don't see how this is different I don't know what to tell you.

I want to reiterate that you can not mention DU or DUers in any post. Only general reference to non-Hillary supporters is allowed.
In the recent past, we have edited but from now on, a post will be completely deleted if the moderators see such references.


vs


Most all of us have an axe to grind with our former online home but please discuss it privately among yourselves (ie in PMs) instead of going public with it on the board. This kind of disarray can be used against us, is a troll magnet and isn't very attractive to Bernie supporters from other communities we want to attract so we will not tolerate negative talk about other online communities and their members. They're simply not that interesting! We have enough material with everything Hillary is doing wrong, the DNC and its corruption, etc...




Anyway, it seems neither site can understand someone wanting to support Sanders and Clinton, the world must be totally black and white. Did you know it's possible to support Sanders and Clinton and prefer Sanders, or support Sanders and Clinton but prefer Clinton? It really is!

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:21 AM

25. And the anti-Semitism? I notice you keep ignoring the real problem with that site.

Until and unless you can prove that the owners of JPR not only allow alert stalking and bigotry but openly encourage it you can't compare the two.


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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #25)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:24 AM

26. Both sites are deleting posts like that.

I'm not sure what you're saying.

We posts like that here and they survive juries. Don't get me started on DI. Just let it go, we're never going to resolve this. Done kicking the thread.

edit: wait, nevermind, there's a post which directly calls out DU all for the world to see right now, I took a screenshot. Should be interesting to see how well the rule is enforced.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:28 AM

27. I'm talking about the owner and what he actively participated in and encouraged.

There is no comparison, period.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:46 AM

36. You do understand, do you not, that the admin at JackpineRadicals.org was not suggesting

that anyone talk about DU? The thrust of the admonition was "Keep talk about other boards off the JackpineRadicals.org board. If you have to talk about it, keep it to pms."

There was no suggestion whatever that people gossip about other boards in pms. There was no intent to prompt people to do that.

In fact, when I was first informed about that board--before it made it to the net, I was told there would be only one rule--no complaining about other boards. Now that it's up, I see that there are about four or five rules. However, that is what someone who is now an admin at JackpineRadicals.org told me from the jump.

Please don't engage in pointless shit stirring when you are uninformed and could not be more wrong. Oh, wait, maybe you could be more wrong. Never mind.

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Response to merrily (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:20 AM

53. Results are in. Hey Alerter.... Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!

 

I was #5

Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message



On Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:02 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

You do understand, do you not, that the admin at JackpineRadicals.org was not suggesting
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=936271

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is an unnecessarily rude response to a legitimate question. Let's tone it down a notch or two please.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:17 AM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: If this is rude; I'm gorgeous. And trust me - I ain't gorgeous. Grow some skin.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Pointless alert.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:41 AM

33. Justification?

 

Well done. I don't recognize any McCain/Palin posts at that site. You also might want to search this site and "Stockholm." Look for an op with over forty recommendations. Seems that falls within the rules at the very site you are posting at. Something about glass houses and all. Over forty recommendations. I will kick it so it's easier for you to find.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:45 AM

35. I never said you did either of those.

 

Therefore I have no need to get back to you on it. Can you believe such an op would get over forty recommendations here. That is be far more recommendations than most ops by far. Did I recommend the link you provided? What a strange thing to say.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:48 AM

37. You rec'd this one from a racist tea party website:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=1251876329

You do realize that every time someone clicks on the link from progressivestoday they're putting money in the pocket of racists who publish hateful articles about our president don't you?

And why did you bring up that other thread if it had nothing to do with me?

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:51 AM

40. Seriously.

 

With all of the clicks going to ratfucker extrodinaire HA Goodman this is what your concern is. I must say, no one here puts a smile on my face like BMUS.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #40)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:52 AM

42. You're comparing reccing a HuffPo article to one from progressivestoday?



So glad we both got a laugh out of this exchange.


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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:48 AM

38. I clicked a couple and they were hidden by jury.

 

Good on us. Too bad the other is left to stand. You show a clear bias in the jury system toward Sanders supporters. Was that your intention. Hidden posts compared to one still going strong today with over forty recommendations. It is a good point you make. Clinton supporters get hides for offensive posts, Sanders supporters get recommendations and pats on the back. Great info you brought.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #38)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:50 AM

39. There you go with the conspiracy theories again.

Everyone always likes to think they're being persecuted but Skinner has said repeatedly that's not the case.

You show a clear bias in the jury system toward Sanders supporters.


Where?

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:53 AM

43. I'm not persecuted.

 

What a strange comment. Takes more than some posters on an anonymous website for me to get to that claim. Lol Love this.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:55 AM

44. I didn't say you were persecuted, what a strange comment.

You were the one who claimed there is bias against certain supporters.


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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:58 AM

45. Love agreeing with you.

 

Thanks. I don't feel persecuted in any way. Rock on BMUS!!!!

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:12 AM

48. Ugly, ugly. And then echoes of that showed up on this board

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=7341069

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=811809

And, when I said anti-Semitism is like FREEP, a liar alerted on me, claiming I had called a DUer a FREEPer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=812339

IMO, the very ugly hostility toward MannyGoldstein at DU was not entirely unrelated to the anti-Semitic sh*t stirring elsewhere.

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Response to merrily (Reply #48)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:34 AM

56. Stepping in gently

Those black DUers who have been indentified as house 'n-words' by a member at Jackpine Radical on twitter -

We aren't anti semites. You can find quite a few of my posts giving my heritage where I make clear that I have direct relations who are/were Jewish. As well - I'm counted on by a few folks to stand up and clearly call b.s. on blatant anti-semitism posts that survive juries at DU.

SOME - SOME of us - black folks - found Manny to be a 'pat the negro on the head and tell them what they are supposed to be concerned about' type of person. This goes back a few years ago this February (black history month).

Doesn't make him a blatant bigot - just . . . it's not anti semitism in some quarters. He earned being not liked or dislike - just - dismissed as an 'online persona'. Not too this, not too that.

He offended in a big way, never apologized, and so a lot of folks had him in their personal trash pile for a few years (predating the Hillary Clinton Supporters site). Just not someone we'd ever have in our homes because he would be expecting fried chicken and watermelon and be upset at grilled chilean sea bass and arugula salad. No point in inviting him. Right?

I just want to make clear - my personal dismissal of him - had nothing to do with his religion. I don't have it in me to think like that - let alone make jokes about someone's race or religion with snide, vicious little stereotype and 'don't be such ninnies' type language.

Is it possible there IS some anti semitism involved?

You betcha.

There are some sick blatant anti-semites on this site - but if I point them out . . . not good. I put that in the same bucket as accusing someone of being a racist. For the record - bravenak said someone's words were racist, got a hide, and Skinner supported it (the hide) and the person she justly accused of this language survived here for a few more years.

I just don't think blaming it on a spinoff site when juries at DU have allowed it to occur and stand - is something I agree with.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:28 AM

60. Very well said, JAG.

Thank you.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:03 PM

69. I am glad you agree that at least some of the animosity to Manny was likely due to anti-Semitism.

Last edited Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:41 PM - Edit history (3)

I am not sure how much further you and I can reasonably go discussing the substance of the rest of your post.

The rest of your post is about people and things over whom I have no control and for whose deeds I respectfully decline to take responsibility. I would not dream of posting to you my grievances about some of the very ugly things posted at HillarySupporterscom and even right in DU's African American Group. I would never put you in the position of either agreeing with me, or remaining silent about your board friends and acquaintances in the face of my serious charges, or having to defend things done by other people. I also think nothing is fair about posting such heavy charges about people who are no longer here to defend themselves.

I have no idea why you brought all these grievances up to me. I certainly hope you are not attempting to imply that my posting on a board that has over 500 posters with an African American woman who once tweeted the term house n****r is somehow comparable to being the posters(s) who actually posted ugly, anti-Semitic things themselves. Because attempting a smear that far off base, an equivalency that false, would be really, really messed up. Surely that is not what you were trying to do?

My declining to discuss certain things should not interpreted as my agreeing with anything in your post. IMO, the things you described are either definitely not as I remember them, or are missing some information that I consider highly material to the conclusions one forms about the events.

While your post may be gently worded, it contains accusations that, if true, would say extremely negative things about the fundamental character of these people. With all due respect, I don't consider that a gentle step and don't know why anyone would describe it that way.

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Response to merrily (Reply #69)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:47 PM

82. All true n/t

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #82)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:49 PM

86. "All true"

It is so GLARINGLY obvious you didn't read a single word of that post.

Not that I did either.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:30 PM

80. Im tryi g to

Find something to agree with ea h day with someone i usually disagree with but today i am agreeing with you even though you dont fit the experiment
By that i mean i havent to my knowledge seen you posting things i disagree with to the point of responding
You usually come across as.a civil duer with a lot of respect for du and its members
I have to say you have laid down the most rational response to a lot going on here lately and i can now understand better the antagonisms.as.being the slow result of a lon g process of grievance
Thanks for helping me get a different look at it

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Response to merrily (Reply #48)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:45 AM

58. Of course a lot of it is anti-Semitism.

As your links and mine prove it exists here.

Suddenly we're seeing all kinds of posts questioning where Bernie gets his money, we know what they're implying, they just won't come right out and say it.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:32 AM

55. Yawn

This tired old crap. I'm not in anyway anti-Semitic, that site I frequently visit and post in is in no way anti-Semitic. We have members that cover a broad spectrum of people, including people who are AA AND Jewish.

And Don't be calling ME anti-Semitic. Just don't.

You know, I'm really surprised at this screenshot business specially from certain posters. If I wanted, I'd go take screen shots of hidden posts on DU itself. Some people have a long history of unpleasant and questionable behavior. Not only do I not want too--it's the most boring waste of time I can imagine.

Bill's site is gorgeously designed, easy to navigate and, at the moment fairly exclusive. Bill himself has been the recipient of some of the worst abuse I've ever seen on DU. Recently he reviewed a PM calling him, amoung other things, a "tired old queen" That Ok with you? It's not ok with me.

Another vile post-the worst I've ever seen allowed to stand--Was calling him all kind of names.

I wonder if the authors of these communications are proud of them? I would guess they are. I don't do "Links' but I could provide them in this instance.

We are leaving it up to Skinner what he wants to do about it.

If we are going to toss allegations around with half backed "evidence" i.e. The same "screenshots" posted over and over, I have only one suggestion If you are a Hillary Supporter, go over to

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com

And look around. Report back on how much racism and anti-semitism is there. I can tell you it's zero. If you are a Sanders supporter, you will see fairly harsh criticism of him. Harsh criticism of his on the on the ground campaign. Harsh criticism of the behavior of his supporters--which as been noted all around the Internet. The kind that gets hides over here, even though it's legitimate opinion. Which was the point of the site in the first place, a place to protect promote and support Hillary without getting trolled.

My last point is about glass houses. You live in one-don't throw rocks.



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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:39 AM

57. The screenshots don't lie, you may not approve of the bigotry but the site's owner did.

As well as encouraging alert stalking himself.

Those vile posts stood for months without being deleted, that tells me everything I need to know about Bill.

You're not responsible for them but as the site's owner he was.

This isn't about the individuals who post at each site but what is tolerated by the owners.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:04 AM

59. Brilliant post, ism.. thank you so much!

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:52 PM

68. Well written

If one's face isn't clean - one shouldn't pretend to be a perfect angel.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:25 PM

79. Perfectly said

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:44 PM

66. Some sites have standards, some don't.

 

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:31 PM

84. Great catch, josh. And I'm sure that you are are surprised by this as everone else

discuss it privately among yourselves (ie in PMs) instead of going public

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:22 AM

54. Saw a post with this screen shot

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128088171#post47

So here's a tale of two posts on two different sites, one was deleted by the company Manny keeps , one posted by company you keep. remains hidden behind closed doors. Oh I think cha is one supporter, not supporters. That little s makes a huge difference

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Response to Autumn (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:14 PM

73. The company I keep is here at DU. I think I have two posts at another board.

 

The company Manny keeps is Reagan and McCain/Palin. They couldn't even keep their story straight any more. It's a shame I feel I have to hold my words back when talking about a banned member. Shouldn't be the case. They were a flat out ratfucker extraordinaire. I would put them on par with Goodman. Ego. Where is the biggest audience. I will tailor my message to them and they will treat me like a king. That is about how they worked here.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #73)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:22 PM

76. Reagan is dead and I can assure you he doesn't hang around with McCain/Palin

I notice you have no comment on that screen shot. Selective outrage and changing the subject is the standard procedure for some here.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #76)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:24 PM

78. I'll take his words over your assurance any day thank you.

 

It's very well documented here.

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:20 AM

13. Good old TWM.

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:26 AM

15. Jury results

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Mail Message
On Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:20 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

The Reformed Lumenprole Check In and Appreciation Thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251935812

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This OP links to a post by Manny Goldstein on another site. Skinner banned Manny for a reason. Links to his posts elsewhere are not appropriate. DUers know they can go to the other site to read and communicate with Manny if they want.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:25 AM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hide. Agreed - Manny is banned. It's bad enough we have a member posting entire threads from the Hillary Supporters spin off site - we will soon have that going on from this site. You are opening yourselves up to trolls. Signed - So Over The Disruption and Drama
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Manny shouldn't have been banned
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Nope. Skinner banned Manny here but does not say to not link to other sites.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Hey, people here post links to stuff I don't like all the time. I just do not click on those links. So easy.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to jfern (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:30 AM

17. An alert? What a shock!

Manny's not here anymore and their lame alerts on him are still failing.

Pity.


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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #17)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:32 AM

18. Manny didn't actually have any hidden posts, right?

The irony, his posts were too reasonable to get hidden, so he was just banned, meanwhile Hillary supporters whine about each and every one of their hides and how it's a conspiracy.

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Response to jfern (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 04:34 AM

19. Yes he did, they stalked him mercilessly.

And they're so obsessed they're still trying to silence him.

I hope they keep posting his brilliant satire here.

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Response to jfern (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:52 AM

41. Links to another site are not appropriate? LOLOLOL. DU posts are full of links to other sites.

Last edited Tue Dec 22, 2015, 07:34 AM - Edit history (1)

So are DU sig lines.

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:29 AM

28. I don't use am emoji - but some I have seen remind me of a little guy in overalls - who is happy to

 

see me. Cracks me up. Immensely.

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 06:32 AM

29. It is strange that earlier this morning, while perusing JPR,

curiousity about how the site became known to me led me to do a DU Search. The strange part is that the DU search engine would not give me any results!

So, instead of thanks to whoever initially made the referral it is thanks to any who continue doing so. Manny did not merit PPR.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:17 AM

49. Not sure, but I may have replied to one of your DU posts, pointing you to a link to JPR?

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Response to merrily (Reply #49)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:29 PM

65. Nice to speak with you merrily.

That may very well be true. In signing up I tried to indicate in parenthisis that I was unsure but it appears that ( and/ ) are not allowed in the field. I named another whom I also respect. It was shocking to see so many excellant posters there! Nothing more can be said, eg, continuing to deal with those who belittle you can only result in their attempting to cut you down again. Now it's time to go where I feel better.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #65)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:16 PM

74. Nice to speak with you as well.

Yep, many very intelligent and interesting supporters of Bernie Sanders are posting at JackpineRadical.org., including MannyGoldstein, who was recently banned from DU. Over 500 registrations in a bit over 2 days.

As for people trying to cut you down...

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.

Eleanor Roosevelt, Free, Fearless, Female: Wild Thoughts on Womanhood. Willow Creek Press, 2004. Minocqua, Wisconsin. p. 65.

I heartily recommend withholding your consent.


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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:47 AM

50. k+r

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:49 AM

51. Didn't the person you are linking to...

 

Support McCain/Palin over Obama? Is it a conservative site?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:39 AM

61. No.................

LOL......................but be sure to make shit up.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #61)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:40 AM

62. Yeah, pretty sure they did.

 

That track record probably had something to do with the final decision.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #62)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:42 AM

63. LOL.......... you're so funny

continue I love sitcom humour.

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Response to Ichingcarpenter (Reply #63)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:44 AM

64. Thank you. Though I go longer than thirty minutes a night for a couple of seasons.

 

You could say my humor is relentless.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:05 PM

70. No, and no. ^^^THE TEXT YOU SEE ABOVE IS NOT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TRUE^^^ nt

 

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #70)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:10 PM

72. Yeah they did. I'm really happy they no longer get to support others here.

 

From Reagan voter to McCain/Palin. They have said it all at one time or another. They couldn't even keep their own story straight. Thankfully they aren't a DU member.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #72)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:21 PM

75. ^^^REFUSES TO POST LINK TO BACK UP WILD CLAIM...DON'T BE TAKEN IN BY THOSE WHO WANT TO DECEIVE^^^

 

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #75)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:23 PM

77. It's all extremely well documented.

 

I don't need to jump for you. Your caps are impressive.

I do have a hug.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 11:44 PM

85. No, you're not wrong

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Response to Number23 (Reply #85)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 04:35 AM

87. Whoa - first I've seen that

And you - I'll actually read.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #87)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 03:57 PM

89. Shines a WHOLE 'nother light on all of the wailing and gnashing over that persons' dismissal

don't it??

And you - I'll actually read.

Back atcha, baby doll. Merry Christmas, JAG.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #89)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 07:21 PM

90. Merry Christmas to you and your family

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Response to Number23 (Reply #85)

Wed Dec 23, 2015, 05:59 AM

88. +1 nt

 

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:50 AM

52. K&R

footfootfootfootfootBOOTkick.

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:47 PM

67. K&R

 

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 01:06 PM

71. Oh yes: checking in and appreciating every syllable. eom

 

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:06 PM

81. kicking

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Response to SandersDem (Original post)

Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:01 PM

83. He DOES have a way with words doesn't he?


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