2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA question to my fellow primary voters: Do you believe in the oath of office of the President?
Let me add the oath below to remind (I expect most of us don't know the oath by memory), and the emphasis is mine:
Source: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html
We now have a primary candidate (two actually, Trump as well) who is openly dismissive of the First Amendment, specifically the Freedom of Speech. How can we as Americans in good conscience vote to nominate and elect anyone who is unrepentantly defiant of, and opposed to protecting, the bill of rights to the constitution, yet still seeks to take the oath of office of These United States?
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This is a serious question to all my fellow Democratic voters who plan to vote in these upcoming primaries and caucuses. I await serious answers.
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Clearly, it's been broken in the past, but never before (to my knowledge) have we had a candidate so up-front with such a dismissive opinion about its importance.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)aidbo
(2,328 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)(Because that's the only one with a gun.)
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Respect for the constitution is apparently impractical, is what she is telling me.
When she said she and her supporters say she "likes to get things done" there was never a guarantee of what she would do. It's like Scarecrow's character from The Dark Knight says:
aidbo
(2,328 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Got it.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)LexVegas
(6,005 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)you're making it harder and harder everyday for me to accept you.
I'm voting Bernie in the primary, but if you win, don't make this harder on me.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)if someone told me she didn't want the bernie votes, i could almost believe it, its that hard now.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)of who to vote for in the ge is a healthy one, despite the fact that it makes some uncomfortable. none of the candidates should assume they will just have the votes, but i think one of them is making such an assumption.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)all Americans and yet thus far we have not had a single nominee who has upheld that principle while running for office or while serving in other offices, they have each described groups of people who they felt should be deprived of specific rights and liberties, denied certain benefits and privileges and they have each done this with great certainty and often in the name of the deity they claim to worship.
So, the Constitution, I've never seen it function for all in the way you suggest it has.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)I would be very interested in reading your OP on some other topics; I feel this is an under-discussed area of electing a president: actually following the constitution.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I first read about it through a blog I read for work.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)this. Doesn't sit well with anyone, except her 9% supporters on DU. Apparently, losing rights is peachy keen.
HRH:
No Free Speech
No Flag Burning
Loves Prisons for Profits
Voted for the Bankruptcy Bill which disproportionately affects women and children
Voted for the IWR
LOVES war, war, war and more war - can't get enough blood on her hands.
Her Biggest donors are WALL ST. THIEVES who stole $12.8 TRILLION if OUR tax dollars in a bailout for their CRIMES, which go UNPUNISHED.
Supports the TPP
Supports the XL PIPELINE
Supports FRACKING
Supports Corporate Tax Loopholes
No FREE College Education for ALL qualified students
No expanding Social Security
No Medicare for all
Supports GMOs and MONSANTO
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)I feel like this is a trick question.
it's the Meme of the Day. The OP and at least one other poster opened their sealed instructions at midnight, read and burned them. Hence the proliferating "Hillary equals Trump" posts today.