2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"What Does Jack think of Hillary Clinton?”
by Jack Balkwill
Right now, youre probably asking yourself, What does Jack think of Hillary Clinton? Well, Im glad you asked In fact, Madam Hillary, the leading candidate for CEO of the United States of Corporate Empire, is being buried in money by environmental polluters, defense cheats, banksters, and other oligarchs and plutocrats because shes shown unwavering loyalty to these scum of the earth all her life. Shall we go back to the beginning? In one of her older, smoldering lies, Hillary claimed to have been named after Sir Edmund Hillary, famous for climbing Mount Everest. The problem with this is that Sir Edmund didnt climb Mount Everest and become famous until six years after Hillary Rodham was born. During the October 13th debate she began her comments with I have been very consistent over my entire life, I have always fought for the same values and principles. She often fabricates that she has always been a progressive, but her values and principles are not progressive. Even in her teens, when Hillary worked on the Nixon campaign, and later became a Goldwater Girl, in support of two of the most right wing Republican politicians in US history. In college, she was president of Wellesley Republican Youth. Does this sound like always been progressive?
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In her last run for the presidency, in 2008, none other than Rupert Murdoch held a fundraiser for Hillary. Should one ask why the king of right wing media would support a progressive candidate? Murdoch is not known for wasting money. He knew she would represent his values. Even the Clinton family friends appear to be Republican. During the 2008 race, Bill Clinton remarked that he didnt know how Hillary would be able to run against their friend John McCain. Its been reported that when Obama got the nomination, Bill Clinton advised John McCain during the 2008 campaign. Former First Lady Barbara Bush praised family friend Bill Clinton I think that he thinks of George a little bit like the father he didnt have, and hes very loving to him. And I really appreciate that. If the Clintons are progressive, why do they have right wing friends? Even daughter Chelsea, who married a Wall Street banker, is a friend of Ivanka Trump, daughter of The Donald who leads Republican candidates at this time. Bill and Hillary attended Trumps last wedding. One almost expects to hear the déjà vu of Bill whining that he doesnt know how Hillary can run against her friend Trump. In fact, in his current election campaign, Trump is running a video highlighting praise from Bill Clinton, ending with Thank you Bill. The Trump campaign opens the video with a suggestive question: An endorsement from Bill Clinton?
When in the Senate, Hillary voted for the Bush agenda the Patriot Act, Iraq War, the fascist line. She co-sponsored a bill that would make it a crime to burn the American flag, long a favorite of Republicans, and she supports the death penalty, which is opposed by nearly all progressives. After Hillary pushed for war with Libya and President Obama obliged by bombing that suffering nation (which has not recovered to a functioning government), she was delighted that President Gaddaffi was savagely tortured to death, after having been shot several times, remarking: " target="_blank">We came, we saw, he died, followed by a maniacal laugh. On the campaign trail, Hillary often cites her time on the board of the Childrens Defense Fund in an attempt to show that she is progressive, but she doesnt talk about her husbands Welfare Reform, which threw poor children into the streets (two-thirds of those on welfare were children). The founder of the Childrens Defense Fund, Marion Wright Edelman, said of that move by Bill Clinton, His signature on this pernicious bill makes a mockery of his pledge not to hurt children. Edelmans husband resigned from the Clinton Administration over Clintons cruelty toward these disadvantaged children.
Selling out the American people pays handsomely. Bill Clinton left the White House falling into immense wealth, as his corporate friends paid him off for his service to them, with $200 thousand a night speeches. Its been reported that hes made over $100 million from speeches alone since leaving the White House. Simply putting the money into his bank account would have looked too much like the payoff of bribes. Hillary brings in similar loot from speech fees, book deals and other sources, capitalizing on what she calls public service, as though she cared a wit about the public interest. Hillary tells us, in another of her lies, that she and Bill left the White House dead broke. But we we find that In 1999, they bought a five-bedroom home in Chappaqua, N.Y., for $1.7 million. In December 2000, just as they were leaving the White House, they bought a seven-bedroom house near Embassy Row in Washington, D.C. The price was $2.85 million. Hillary Clinton is not a progressive, but the opposite, a classic fascist. She is currently running her campaign on a platform of lies, and if she is elected president, will reverse her faux progressive positions on anything of importance and sell out the American people, together with the people of the planet, in order to please those whom shes always served, the wealthy and their corporations, at any cost to the public interest.
cont'
http://dissidentvoice.org/2015/10/corporate-media-wont-tell-you-hillary-clinton-is-a-lying-fascist/
mother earth
(6,002 posts)supporter. TY, Segami, Jack Balkwill and dissidents everywhere. The truth matters, I've had enough of plutocracy, oligarchy, & and media lies, censorship & all of their bullshit. We need more truth, we need objectivity from MSM, not helping with the swindle & manipulation.
Proud to K & R.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Sure her supporters will whine and use words like 'hate' and 'right wing' and 'fox' etc. But it doesn't matter, they CAN'T change the facts no matter how many talking points the Corporate funded Think Tanks send out to try to distract from the TRUTH.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Hillary Clinton is a "classic fascist."
Take your cue from Jack, everybody! Classic fascist is gold! Gold!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)truth. Strange comment. You didn't deny or argue against anything in the OP.
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Persondem
(1,936 posts)"Hillary Rodham Clinton is a liberal Democrat on domestic matters, and Bernie Sanders is a socialist. They voted the same way 93 percent of the time in the two years they shared in the Senate."
Link to NYT article
Sanders, ... Clinton ............................................................................................................Every GOP candidate
bvar22
(39,909 posts)The majority of votes in both houses are procedural or honorary. Everybody agrees.
The problems arise when we break down those 7% of the votes where she voted AGAINST the Democratic Party.
How important were those votes?
*Well, one of them helped murder over 1 MILLION completely innocent Iraqis, displaced 5 MILLION more (who can never "go home" again), and destroyed a secular country where Sunnis, Shiite, and Christians lived and played together.
*Another of those votes brought us the Patriot Act.
The others are just as bad.
You can look them up instead of letting that misleading 93% number dazzle you.
It is pure BullShit that appears every campaign season.
Blanche Lincoln "voted with the Democrats 91% of the time,
but Blanche also took credit for killing the Public Option, and opposed most "Progressive" Policy votes.
It is NOT, and has NEVER been, how many times they "vote with the Democrats".
It is about the times they betray the Democrats on IMPORTANT POLICY VOTES that matter.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)If you had cared to look at the 7%, about half involve cloture motions.
The other half are more policy oriented. Some of which Sanders looks like the bad guy on. Didn't look at those I'll bet.
And I am pretty sure none of the bills involved an up or down vote on the murdering of a million people.
Exaggeration + Hyperbole + 20/20 Hindsight = "... pure BullShit that appears every campaign season."
Segami
(14,923 posts)Now she's fanning sexist flames against Bernie with the same 2008 zeal.......who me,...nah!.....
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)memories.
And some good ones. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.
840high
(17,196 posts)that time I supported her - and I was shocked.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)fuck what Jack thinks.
Yallow
(1,926 posts)It sure as hell isn't a democracy with corporations counting our votes, and telling us who won.
Corporations run our government.
The will of the people means nothing.
Reality.
Fascism is here already, supported by 90% of those in D.C. we call politicians.
Hillary, probably more fascist than not.
Bernie, not so much.
I really don't think Hillary will "regulate" corporations who paid for her campaign.
Sorry.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)And often confused with Nazism...but as defined by Mussolini it is the merger of corporation and state...and under that definition we are that...and that would make it classic.
But I understand your concern...Godwins law forbids it, but it is what it is.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Not the version most Americans think of with death camps and swastikas.
Segami
(14,923 posts)It still amazes me that she has the gall to tell everyday working people (with a straight face) who are struggling, that she wants to be their champion.........YES, a champion to the small folk while she is vacuuming up tens of millions of dollars in donations from the very criminal corporate and elite 1%........who's interest will she protect?........what a theatrical scam.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/clinton-to-fast-food-workers-i-want-to-be-your-champion-118708
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Lays it out nicely. Thank you so much.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Sayeth the person who actually READS the way Clinton v Sanders voted in the Senate.
I can't say I know a classic fascist from a flaming corporatist these days. I'd choose the latter for her voting record.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Theater Of Illusions........."Usually young people ask me about global warming"..........REALLY?
How about planted questions?
Oops,.......surprise!.....the scam is exposed....
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)This is a revelation of our colleges work!
How CONTRIVED can it be when senior staffers plant AND fix the questions!
It's like rigged faith healing with the minions running the show because "That probably wouldn't be a good question"!
Nice marionette work, staffers!!!
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)darling.
The author is trying to make himself seem "cutting edge" and "maverick". He fails.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)btw ... the media has consistently worked to Kill Hill, this year. They did more stories on the silly email thing than anything else.
Now that she kicked ass in the hearings, the media dropped it ... they had no choice!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Hillary is not and will very very to infinity not be a classic fascist. She is of the more friendly kind well not really she probably won't legalize or decriminalize drugs thus keeping a lot of people in jail for no good reason.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)The lows keep getting lower.
olddots
(10,237 posts)everyday something surfaces that make me go with my first impression of Hillary in 1969 .
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)How did that come about?
(If you've posted the story before, please just give me the link. Thanks!)
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Dem nominee.