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Mon Oct 26, 2015, 11:58 AM

I am a Hillary supporter. I am a Bernie supporter.

There are things I very definitely prefer, about Bernie.

There are things I very definitely prefer, about Hillary.

There are things I dislike about Hillary.

There are things I dislike about Bernie.

However, both Bernie and Hillary are so infinitely superior to anyone the GOPpies might nominate, that I sleep soundly.

The only thing that bothers me, really, is the incredibly emotional, sometimes cynical, occasionally vicious, often strident attacks on one another by those who seem to support one so strongly that they believe it's worthwhile to vituperate, trash, character-assassinate the other and their supporters.

Who will I vote for, during the primary? I'll know for sure on that day. Whichever it is, the other will have my heartfelt gratitude and support as well. It is possible to appreciate the worthy public service and common ground held with someone even while deploring other things about them. In the case of our Democratic Presidential candidates, that's a lot of common ground, actually. Especially when it comes to the mess we'll be having to clean up in Congress, a Supreme Court that will have key openings in the next 4 years, and ongoing tension between many types of change forces worldwide.

Those who believe the only good Hillary supporter is one driven over by the Bernie bus which then backs up, drives over again, repeats that 3-4 times, then everyone piles out and jumps on the flattened remains may begin that process, now.

Those who believe the only good Bernie supporter is one stabbed repeatedly, bludgeoned with sacks of quarters, stoned with large rocks, and then held underwater until the bubbles stop coming up may begin that process now, as well.

wearily,
Bright

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Reply I am a Hillary supporter. I am a Bernie supporter. (Original post)
TygrBright Oct 2015 OP
katmondoo Oct 2015 #1
MineralMan Oct 2015 #2
JoePhilly Oct 2015 #3
mmonk Oct 2015 #4
Agnosticsherbet Oct 2015 #5
firebrand80 Oct 2015 #6
Ron Green Oct 2015 #7
TygrBright Oct 2015 #8
lark Oct 2015 #16
Ron Green Oct 2015 #25
lark Oct 2015 #27
Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #9
TygrBright Oct 2015 #10
tblue37 Oct 2015 #11
artislife Oct 2015 #12
Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #17
artislife Oct 2015 #19
lark Oct 2015 #13
iandhr Oct 2015 #14
blm Oct 2015 #15
byronius Oct 2015 #18
bigwillq Oct 2015 #20
patsimp Oct 2015 #21
raindaddy Oct 2015 #22
cindyperry2010 Oct 2015 #23
SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #24
72DejaVu Oct 2015 #26

Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:00 PM

1. My thoughts entirely

We are fortunate to have such a choice of two very capable candidates

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:05 PM

2. Yup. I'll enthusiastically support the Democratic nominee.

Both likely candidates will be just fine as President and far better than any Republican.

That's my loyalty oath. The Democratic nominee will get my support and campaign efforts. That has always been true, even in elections where it was obvious we'd lose. I am a Democrat.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:05 PM

3. Good post.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:06 PM

4. Thanks Bright.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:08 PM

5. Partisan bickering over political ideology is not just between

Republicans and Democrats.
We have our own version of it here between.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:10 PM

6. I just don't think Bernie is a great candidate

I like him and I respect him, but you have to be a damn good candidate to beat HRC. Obama is an outstanding campaigner, and even he and HRC went nearly down to the wire.

I like a lot of Bernie's ideas, and I think we're going to see a majority of them adopted as the official Democratic platform in the near future. I hope he's in the race through Super Tuesday and beyond. I just think that in this race, his ceiling is 40% or so.

If Warren had gotten in, we might be having a different conversation.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:11 PM

7. It's a very nice and heartfelt post, but it really misses the point that

the only equivalency in this primary season is that they both are better than a Republican, and at this point in history that's not nearly enough. The stakes are so high that issues-driven supporters often seem callous and single-minded, overreaching in their zeal to help set things right. They must be forgiven in this, and joined in their efforts.

See, without any candidates' names, you know which side I'm on, right?

There's no equivalency here. It's way too late for that.

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Response to Ron Green (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:12 PM

8. I like your sig, very much indeed. n/t

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Response to Ron Green (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:06 PM

16. Enjoy the repug presidency then.

If all Dems were like you, that's what we'll get. I love Bernie and do think he's the best prospect for president. However, his numbers outside of NH are really bad contrasted to Hillary's. If you can't see the difference between Hillary and Trump, Carson, or Rubio, well I hope you nor any of your family use ACA, Social Security or Medicare because they will all be eliminated or changed for the worst. Hope you like working until 70+ to collect privatized medicare which the 1% will blow up the next time they destroy the economy.

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Response to lark (Reply #16)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:40 PM

25. You're buying into the media narrative that Hillary will

defeat the eventual Republican candidate. Not only is that not assured, despite all the breathless reportage of the past week, but if she does overcome the enormous anti-Clinton mobilization from the Right we'll still not have the real transformation that's long overdue.

If you mean what you say that Bernie is the best prospect, I hope you'll act accordingly.

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Response to Ron Green (Reply #25)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 05:49 PM

27. I'm voting for Bernie in the primary.

Whoever has the D behind their name will get my vote in the general. I will not let the perfect get in the way of committing national suicide by allowing an R to be president.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:31 PM

9. In 08, and ever prior year, this Party asked me to vote for an assortment of persons who ranted

 

about God telling them not to let LGBT be equal. This time there are three candidates for whom that bullshit is not an issue and that is a great relief and a new experience. To have choices without asterisks next to 'how they feel about me and my family' is great stuff. Many on DU are used to having elections that pander directly to them, their denomination and their families, candidates actually asking for their votes instead of saying 'Look, I'm the best you can do, now here is my dear friend who wants you in jail, Reverend McHaterson of St God's First Baptist Church',

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:35 PM

10. Thank you for that. I share your relief.

It's a timely reminder, too, that keeping up the pressure, while balancing the perspective needed between less-than-optimal candidate choices, is a strategy that works.

appreciatively,
Bright

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 12:40 PM

11. +1 million! I will vote for Bernie at our caucus, then support whoever wins the nomination. nt

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:43 PM

12. This would work if it were Hillary v Biden

 

Or Warren v Sanders.

But it isn't. There are big differences in the foundation of what each side in this primary believe. It isn't small details.

Each side believes it is on a course to history and change. It is just a different history and change.

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Response to artislife (Reply #12)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:31 PM

17. +1. I just do not see our candidates as equal.

There are stark differences in political philosophy. If I am disallowed from acknowledging those differences, well, what the hel is the point.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #17)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:37 PM

19. Really.

 

Sure we could be more grown up, but if you look at the history of how people fought it out for their candidates throughout our history, we are not the worst.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:01 PM

13. I'm with you Bright!!



Either of these 2 is better than any of the Repugs by miles and miles. IMO anyone who doesn't vote in the General because their "favorite" didn't win will be personally responsible for the loss of Social Security and Medicare done under the Repug presidency. We have to stick together or we will pay a terrible price.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:01 PM

14. Agree 100%

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:02 PM

15. This primary voter for Sanders appreciates your post.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:35 PM

18. Well said.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:37 PM

20. I am not a Hillary supporter. I am a Bernie supporter.

 

If Hillary wins the nomination, I hope she wins the presidency.
If Bernie wins the nomination, I hope he wins the presidency.

I don't mind if someone criticizes, attacks, bashes or dislikes Hillary.
I don't mind if someone criticizes, attacks, bashes or dislikes Bernie.

Supporters or detractors of Hillary do not influence my vote at all.
Supporters or detractors of Bernie do not influence my vote at all.


It's primary season on DU, I expect it to get ugly. I actually enjoy when it's ugly; that's when DU is at is best, imo.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:44 PM

21. I support both.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:46 PM

22. I don't see how anyone can reach a fork in the road and take both paths.


Especially when they lead in opposite directions...

First day in office you'll find Hillary's cabinet will be full of corporate and Wall Street insiders... Bernie's will be advocates for the poor and middle class. I'll let you take it from there.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 02:53 PM

23. voting blue

not voting lets the nuts win and I will not

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 03:05 PM

24. You get my vote for most meaningful comment of the season.

I guess it was inevitable that DU would suffer the consequences of these two people running against each other.

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Response to TygrBright (Original post)

Mon Oct 26, 2015, 04:44 PM

26. And we are all together

goo goo ga joob.

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