Quick poll on Dem for Pres

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

Select who you would vote for if you had to vote today.

112 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Time expired
	Lincoln Chafee
	0 (0%)
	Hillary Clinton
	8 (7%)
	Martin O'Malley
	0 (0%)
	Bernie Sanders
	102 (91%)
	Jim Webb
	0 (0%)
	Other (comment)
	2 (2%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[Cali_Democrat]

1. Other

[Logical]

2. LOL, thanks for the clarification. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

3. You're welcome, chief. nt

[reformist2]

4. Hillary has 0 votes so far, lol

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

5. They're still napping. Give them another hour.

[oasis]

11. Well that does it, no DU presidency for her.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

6. 21-0

[Spitfire of ATJ]

16. 90-5

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

40. 201-19

[Eleanors38]

7. Oops. Almost voted Lincoln Chaffe because I thought it read Lawton Chiles.

[1monster]

26. Lawton Chiles was great. But he died in December of 1998.

He died 23 days before the end of his term and was succeeded by Buddy McKay. Which meant that Jeb Bush did not come into the governor's mansion immediately after Chiles.

[Eleanors38]

38. I am aware.

[No Vested Interest]

8. Other

Biden

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

9. I only include who is running.

[No Vested Interest]

10. I don't. I vote for whomever I want.

PS - I could have left it blank or not even voted, or I can delete, if you prefer.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

12. No, glad for the feedback!

[LynneSin]

18. He will be running

primaries start next year and no reason for him to jump into this craziness now. People know who Joe Biden is and what he stands for. He can easily wait until the end of the year and still win the nomination

[Snap the Turtle]

28. He can't wait until the end of the year. The FEC deadline to file is October 14th.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

45. He has to declare by October 14th.

[Jester Messiah]

13. Curious, what elevates him above the pack for you? [nt]

[No Vested Interest]

32. The question was "Who..... today".

I trust Joe Biden and believe he is not quite as "attackable" as the other Dem candidates, though I am conscious that there are areas where others can attack him.

We all know that attacks on HRC will be non-stop and vicious not only throughout her campaign, but throughout her Presidency, if she wins. It will be at least as bad as those against Pres. Obama and very difficult to accomplish the needs of the country.

While I have tremendous respect and admiration for Sen. Sanders and the way he is conducting his campaign and the ideas he has offered, the 'Socialist' tag will be hung around his neck by the Republicans and their superpacs, and the drumbeat of everything that goes with that tag will make it very difficult to overcome.

The other candidates - O'Malley, Chaffee, Webb- have not and will not catch on adequately with the Dem electorate.

And that is my opinion today - 9/29/15 .

[neoluddite]

14. What about Deez Nuts?

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

43. Deez Nuts retired to his vacation home - deep in the Scrotal Mountains.

And he's not coming out until he gets a penis.

[0rganism]

15. still undecided - glad i don't have to vote today

i need to see at least one debate. one. so i'm still waiting on DWS to lighten the fuck up, or sometime next month, whichever comes first.

[LynneSin]

17. I'm Ridin with Biden

[book_worm]

20. me too.

[SCantiGOP]

25. I hope he runs

[mainstreetonce]

22. Me too

Go Joe

[book_worm]

19. Yet another poll which proves that most of DU is for Bernie

[A Simple Game]

21. It became obvious a long time ago that Hillary's DU support is small and mostly soft but vocal.

Good news, that means that DU is still mostly liberal and not as conservative as it seems to be.

[SCantiGOP]

24. Nope, you are completely wrong

I probably will vote for Hillary but I'm not about to vote in something this asinine. I really think a lot of the Sanders supporters here are so caustic and over-the-top that they are turning a lot of people off to their candidate.
Sanders is my absolute favorite Senator, but I am not going to risk losing to the Republicans in 2016, and I know that Clinton will beat anyone they run against her.

[A Simple Game]

27. Not going to vote in this asinine poll yet here you are responding to an asinine post.

Yup, and running down Bernie supporters. And saying how you really, really like Bernie but you're going to vote for Hillary. Yup.

Don't bother responding to this asinine post because this ass will not reply to you again.

[tomm2thumbs]

29. Love it

Yup, seems like some folks like to come in and rant and rave and dance around, kicking up dirt and throwing sticks in the air, and then they leave and start asking aloud, 'what's with all the mess?'

[A Simple Game]

34. the OP was clearly going to be a poll as stated in the title, why go there if you don't like polls?

Asinine if you ask me.

[artislife]

33. Live bravely. nt

[Scootaloo]

37. Well, we've never accused Clinton of being a rapist

We've never argued that she protects and defends pedophiles.
We've not accused her of being in Israel's pocket.
No accusations that she's a segregationist, much less responsible for Virginia slavery.
We've never fallen over ourselves with pure unbridled glee when some damn fool assaults Clinton on stage.
Nor have we accused her of being a "Republican with her head between women's legs."

So, I gotta say. We're not as caustic as we could be.

[Chan790]

39. You mean like she's currently not breaking 50% against Trump while Sanders and Biden are?

The myth of Hillary's General-Election electability is a myth...it's honestly and actually demonstrably somewhere between equal to and worse than Sanders.

Biden is likely more electable than either in the general election...but I hope he doesn't run or I hope if he does run he's comes out firing to drive Hillary from the race before NH or IA. Otherwise, this primary fight probably goes to the convention with all three of Sanders, Clinton and Biden in it and none of them having the delegates to lock down the nomination.

[sabrina 1]

44. Biden is not electable to the massive numbers of people who will view him as part of the status quo

The dissatisfaction of the people with inside DC policies is WHY Sanders is continuing to rise in the polls as more and more people get to know him. Those are mostly Independents, disillusioned Repubs, Libertarians also disillusioned with their former heroes, at least now one quarter of the Dem base, not his real target btw, but mostly that huge demographic of non voters (been signing some of them up myself and so easily to my surprise) who have simply opted out of the system altogether, until now.

None of these demographics will vote for an establishment candidate who they view as part of the problem.

Bernie beats Trump in the latest NH poll by a massive 20 points. Biden and Hillary beat him, but Trump fares better against both of them than he does against Bernie.

Repubs are beginning to pay attention to Bernie now. The RNC recently sent out a tweet saying 'we must stop him' as they would prefer and expected to face Hillary in the GE.

So Biden isn't a choice who will get any more support than Hillary, should the DNC replace her with him. He will get approx. the same which is shrinking with every new poll and for good reason.

[Chan790]

50. I don't disagree with any of that.

I just foresee the nightmare scenario of a brokered convention and a negotiated nomination with all three still in and none of them even close on delegate-count if Joe jumps and doesn't take Hillary out in the immediate sense. If Biden gets in, he'd better be prepared to drop the so f**king bad that Bill divorces her and Chelsea disowns her oppo bomb on Hillary as close to day-one of his campaign as he can.

"Honest Joe" as political hitman and establishment axe-man though? I'm just not sure that's a role he's keen to, nor one he's shown past aptitude for. Thus, I hope he decides to stay out. I can easily see Bernie going into the convention with the delegate lead but without it locked-up and the two establishment Democrats brokering a settlement that gives whichever is in 2nd the nomination to keep it from Sanders.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

46. In my experience HRC supporters are much worse.

And if everyone votes like Bernie has no chance, then he WILL have no chance. How about joining us and MAKING something happen.

The "socialist" label is very easy to overcome for most people. Bernie will explain it to the Fox News viewers.

[tomm2thumbs]

23. great idea

puts it out there

[tomm2thumbs]

30. kicking thread

[bigwillq]

31. Sanders (nt)

[fadedrose]

35. Sad

So far, the only complaint people have about Hillary are the emails. With Bill entering the conversation, more fodder is available to the Reps...look up "girlfriend" under Bill Clinton and you'll see what to expect when the Reps have more red meat to chew on. Then there's NAFTA and repealing Glass=Steagall...

The Explainer=in-Chief is not held in the high regard he used to be
and as long as he stayed out of the mix it was better for his wife who has had her feelings hurt too much alrleady.

I would vote for Bernie today, but if Biden enters the race, and we have some debates, I might change my vote to Biden. DWS and the DNC are not going to force a candidate down our throats that we think doesn't have a chance against GOP ads..

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

49. So far, the only complaint people have about Hillary are the emails.

Really? That's all you've gotten from hundreds of threads. I need to leave now, but hopefully someone else can help explain. Otherwise, I'll respond later tonight.

[Scootaloo]

36. Woot! Chaffee got someone!

[brooklynite]

41. Option 1: there are only 230 active users on DU

Option 2: the majority of active users on DU don't vote in polls and this is meaningless.

[Fearless]

52. Are you suggesting there's a "silent majority" Hillary contigent who think polls are above them?

[brooklynite]

53. yep - just like the "silent majority" Bernie contingent

....but if you need to boost your campaign enthusiasm with meaningless blogosphere polls, enjoy.

[Fearless]

54. That's where you're wrong. We have no reason to hide our positions.

We know what Bernie supports and we support him loud and clear. Online, on the street, and in our homes. He will win. He's on pace to beat Hillary sounder than Obama did.

[brooklynite]

55. So you're saying there are only 231 Bernie people here?

...and that you have 100% participation in your "poll"?

[Fearless]

60. Nope

[brooklynite]

61. Bringing me back to my original point...a low participation poll is meaningless

Polling first apply models to weight the survey results they collect to reflect a larger population. A DU opt-in poll reflects only the opinion of those who care to participate.

[Fearless]

62. It serves its purpose.

It's far more representative of the DU population than the 1000 person national polls are of the 320 million people in this country. No dice.

[sabrina 1]

57. Lol, but when the polls were in favor of Hillary they were very important. Before Bernie entered the

race.

People, because that is who posts here, ordinary people, from this forum alone have raised over $21,000 dollars for Bernie. Many people here are not very well off, yet they consider saving this country from Corporate control, important enough to find a few dollars for the only candidate who is representing the 80% of Americans who want Corp money out of our electoral system.

[fadedrose]

42. Bill Clinton's been on TV this week

several times, and he's going to help more in Hillary's campaign.

How nice. I guess he misses living in the White House, AF1, etc.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. Kick

[fadedrose]

48. K & R

[ronnykmarshall]

51. Oh well that's it ...

Election is over.

[workinclasszero]

59. Right because we all know that the Bernie Underground represents

all democrats nationwide, not just two majority white, non diverse, middle class small population states.

Haha I made a funny.

[Cheese Sandwich]

56. 85% of the site supports Sanders but you would never guess it by reading the posts

The threads are more like 50% Clinton

[rbrnmw]

58. Leaning O'Malley

Want to watch the debates first.