WaPo/ABC poll (without Biden included) HRC 56% BS 28%

[SonderWoman]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/poll-trump-carson-top-gop-race-clinton-leads-dems-but-support-drops/2015/09/13/7961a820-58c2-11e5-8bb1-b488d231bba2_story.html?postshare=6451442233440739

They should stop polling with Biden until he officially announces.

[FloridaBlues]

1. thank you for posting. nice lead

[SonderWoman]

7. Check out the Florida poll:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-gravis-trump-clinton-lead-florida-20150914-post.html

[Luminous Animal]

2. So, Hillary is still dropping and Bernie is still rising. Cool!

[Android3.14]

3. So good to see Bernie catching up

It's a little dated, but I guess, if there's no new good news for Clinton, someone has to recycle the old good news.

[Stallion]

4. Usually Stomping a 2 Term Vice President in an Open Election

is considered a big deal-but instead Headlines read:

"Hillary Slipping"

[riversedge]

5. Lots of headlines--and cable tv is full of those type

headlines or lead-ins to next segment. I am angry, disgusted, and sad. But I trust Hillary to do her best to rise above the lies and smears.

[Avalux]

8. Has Biden announced he'll run yet?

Until he does, it's bogus to include him in polls or give him a lot of consideration.

[kenn3d]

9. National Polls

Hillary's lead in the national polls is still significant, and I do think polling for Biden confuses the issue somewhat, but many of the pollsters are also reporting out the numbers excluding him.

In this case, the last WaPo/ABC poll (mid July) also included Biden, and his numbers have changed only a little since (12 then, 14 now).

Regardless though, the trend is clear:
HRC down 21, Sanders up 10 (with Biden).
HRC down 7, Sanders up 14 (without Biden).
Therefore, in these past 2 months the gap closed by 31 points if Biden is in, and it closed by 21 points if Biden is out.

Either way, the gap definitely is closing, so...
Headlines reading: "Hillary Slipping" certainly should not be considered to be lies and smears. Composite polling definitely confirms this. In Jan 2015 Clinton's lead over Sanders was 58%; today it is 18%, and the trajectories for both candidates continue to steepen.

[DCBob]

6. As I suspected.

[LondonReign2]

10. Oh my

"While Clinton maintains the lead, her support has dropped 21 points among Democrats since July. She has lost ground with most demographic groups, but the sharpest drop has come among women and particularly white women. In July, 64 percent of white women said they supported Clinton; today, it is 31 percent, the same level of backing as Sanders, whose support has doubled among this group.

A majority of Americans (55 percent) say they disapprove of the way Clinton has handled questions about her use of a private e-mail account while serving as secretary of state. An almost identical percentage (54 percent) say that she has tried to cover up facts. Asked whether Clinton stayed within government guidelines or broke the rules by using a private server, 51 percent say she broke the rules, while 32 percent say she did not, with the remainder offering no opinion."

[DCBob]

11. Well.. non-stop negative media coverage from RW media does have an impact.

She will overcome this once the investigations and interrogations are done and nothing significant turns up.

[LondonReign2]

12. She's got momentum

[DCBob]

13. Hard to take you seriously.

[LondonReign2]

14. Oh no, horrors