If Rmoney was living in Utah how was he qualified to run for governor in Mass?

[ThomThom]

Isn't there a residency requirement?
too much does not look right to me

[2pooped2pop]

1. I think that's what the problem is

He already made up the lie so he could run back then and now it's hard to change it. I think this is where the felony comes from. He was not eligible to run for Govenor but lied to do so.

[DearAbby]

2. Ding ding ding....Also like to know which state he paid

taxes...Utah or Mass...and come to think of it. Do they have a home in Mass...they voted there as residents in the 2008 elections, 2010 elections and the Primaries.

[zbdent]

6. probably one of many reasons why he won't release the tax forms from then ...

it would show that he was living in the wrong state for too long ...

[pnwmom]

3. Maybe he wasn't lying then. Maybe he's lying now.

And, of course, he could have been then and now, since lying seems to be his speciality.

[2pooped2pop]

4. yes, I think he was lying then

and has to continue to lie now or admit he committed a felon.

[Generic Brad]

10. So...he was telling the truth retroactively?

[magical thyme]

12. there are actually 2 potential felonies

He told the SEC that he was sole shareholder, Chairman of the Board, CEO and President of Bain during 1999-2002.

He told the FEC that he relinquished all involvement with Bain when he retroactively retired in 1999.

Obviously he cannot have been doing both. He either lied on the SEC forms, or lied on the FEC form. Either one is a felony.

And yes, they were expedience.

He needed to relinquish all involvement with Bain in order to run the Olympics, because Bain companies were suppliers to the Olympics. So he took a "leave of absence" in 1999 to rescue the scandal-ridden Olympics. So if he remained involved with Bain, he breached his contract with the Olympics.

He needed to claim involvement with a Bain company that was based in Massachusetts to help establish residency so he could be governor there. So if he wasn't involved with Bain, then he committed some kind of fraud against the Commonwealth of Massachusetts too. Not sure if that one was a felony or not.

[2pooped2pop]

14. ahhhh thank you

for spelling it out for me. I understand better now.

[ThomThom]

15. thanks

[hedgehog]

5. I think he was lying then, and I think he was called on it, but

it was such an audacious lie that no one took the accusations seriously. I mean, who would have the ball to lie about residency requirements in order to run for governor?

[HopeHoops]

7. Carpetbagging.

[rox63]

8. Yes there is a residency requirement

And he was challenged on his residency back in 2002. That's when he testified under oath that he was only taking a leave of absence, and was still involved with Bain part-time. It was so that he could prove his residency in MA.

[Jim__]

9. According to Romney's 2002 testimony he was still running Bain for all those years ...

... and so he was traveling back so frequently for business meetings and board meetings that he was a resident of Mass.

[progressivebydesign]

11. There's the rub. He retroactively amended his tax returns to say that he was a p/t Mass. resident.

At the time, he claimed to be a Utah resident, took all the tax breaks, etc. THEN, when he decided or was recruited to run, he had 'his people' file an amended return claiming that he was in Mass p/t for BUSINESS meetings and such. Thereby becoming a citizen of Mass. p/t.

Of course, this opens yet another pandora's box for him. Business meetings? Gosh.. what would those be if you weren't working for Bain at the time? His web of lies and deceits are coming to light. This is how guys like that operate. Can you imagine any of us filing an amended return years later claiming we lived somewhere else, and not be afraid we'd get fined up the wazzooo?

He makes this shit up as he goes along, and he NOW blames the error on Price Waterhouse for claiming he was a resident of Utah full time. Yeah... umm.. you have to sign your own damn return, so... we're led to believe that he's a shitting executive because he has no clue what's in his tax return.

He is a serial liar

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Yep - put this into the soup as well.

He told MA and the SEC 2002 and the Olympic Committee and the FEC 1999.

2002 was convenient for when he needed them, but now, not so much, because of all of the bad mojo that Bain did between 1999-2002, so is no longer convenient.

A jail cell would be 'convenient' right about now, IMO.