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I was stalked, and bullied and brought this to management. They decided, since i am to the left of the democratic party, that I was a rightful victim. So at this point I just smile. Those birdies are coming home. Yes, it is real, but it is not a bug, it's a feature.
perpetual victim. I've had my share of "fans" over the last 14 years; I won't act persecuted because of what somebody on a message board says.
you seem to think that when you post fantastical, absurd things (9 feet of hail falling on mexico, a broken wind turbine blade flying for a mile in the air, to name a few), and get corrected on it, that you are being bullied. that's too bad.
one might think that having reality pointed out to you by dozens of posters over the years might give you a reason for even the slightest of self-reflection. unfortunately, this is not the case. best of luck to you.
there is a rule about holes...
But in your case... here you go
Please proceed to continue having that non conversation with yourself. I am sure you can keep entertaining yourself. Bullies though hate it when the mark, that be me here, just feel extremely sorry for them, and really do not care about the bullying behavior.
At this time I find it sad... predictable, and entertaining... but I have some reading to do. You know real work. And you are truly a waste of my time at this point.
you are, as a reporter and historian, surely you're aware that the term "climb down from your cross, we could use the wood", is part of the language evolution you spoke of when defending the term "political whore".
and my dad was a holocaust survivor, I guess 2+2 = 3
As to attention, that is what you want... you got it.
Now please entertain yourself
strange fetish
how ironic.
it is now well understood.
but I guess that's just more bullying...
they are cute... it fits... just replace grammar with spelling
and this applies too
ok to use against Hillary. you were quite clear in your pontificating. but you were looking at it scientifically through the prism of language evolution... not trying to curry favor with anyone, suuuure. you defended it's use up and down a thread trying to play professor.
BTW, your passive aggressive attempts at insults entertain me.
the man who suggested that Obama should smoke crack.
youve got ODS - Obama Deflection Syndrome
but so is calling a group of liberal supporters "liberal white supremacists". I think i would've been alerted on had i called Marissa at the BLM protests a clown. In fact i was told i didn't know what i was talking about (because i questioned their tactics and target) and that i needed to listen and shut up. I've never been a huge fan of Cornel West, but he is a fairly well respected Academic.
calling the POTUS those names. That is patently unfair and a mischaracterization of his work of the last 6+ years. Cornel West IS NOT all that.....fair either. But he is in love with himself so I would expect shit like this from him and now you.
And if it wasn’t for that blunt reaction to President Barack Obama after his 18-minute valediction to Trayvon Martin, West’s talk-radio partner, Tavis Smiley, might have taken the prize when he declared the speech as “weak as pre-sweetened Kool-Aid,” via tweet.
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Just like when West says civil rights leaders are on the “Obama plantation,” he’s sharing his script with former Congressman Allen West—the firebrand black Republican who once said that he’d lead black voters off of the Democrats’ “21st century plantation.” Or the time Dr. West remarked that Obama was scared of “free black men,” which sounded a lot like fast-food executive Herman Cain’s assessment that Obama isn’t a “real black man.”
I could go on, but I won’t.
The point isn’t that Smiley and West shouldn’t speak their minds—they should. But if they want us to take them seriously, then they’d be well-advised to come up with something better than one-liners and pot-shots.
More http://thegrio.com/2013/07/23/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-criticism-of-president-obama-devolves-into-pot-shots/
Excuse my language, Ef them both. Bernie can have them.
I gave them their 'props' at one time. Now, I do not respect them as 'leaders' in any respect. I respect them for their academic and professional accomplishments and for surviving as POC....all respect ends there with me. Bernie deserves them......
That not all AA love POTUS. And that this division between respectability politics and confrontation is far older than either Obama, or West. It will continue well after both (and you and I) are pushing daisies.
Who knew this dynamic was still at play....
Fortunately I do not believe people on a website when they tell me all Blacks love a person in particular. Then again...I want to understand why we still have this dynamic happening 100 + years after Dubois seminal work on African liberation, not just throw people under the bus.
Oh and making equivalences between a republican and West just put a smile only face. It is literally hilarious
or rather multiple rooms.
Your recent article on poverty and climate change was good. I look forward to reading more...and as you say it's all political.
SO not in with the in-crowd....
And..
"Cornel West and Tavis Smiley do a disservice to African Americans"
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That is why it pains me to say that Smiley and West have let me down. Sure, I'm not really anyone important to them, but I represent a generation of African-American men who looked up to West and Smiley – only to see them damage their legacies by engaging in embarrassing public roasts of President Obama.
I've looked up to Smiley and West since I was a teenager, gathering an appreciation for race relations and my own personal understanding my place in this country. I've always dreamed of having even a fraction of their respective impacts on American discourse. So I can't help but be disappointed when I see these two men relegated to bickering, insult-tossing self-parodies, especially when it comes to discussing the president.
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When I was in college, I wanted to grow up to be Cornel West or Tavis Smiley. They had that sort of influence on me and millions of other young black Americans. Now, I see the way they're conducting themselves and I just feel sad about the opportunities they've wasted by letting pettiness and pride overshadow their desire to effect actual change.
Perhaps, Smiley and West can look at the recent backlash aimed in their direction and try to scale back the personal attacks. Perhaps, they can really lead deeper discussions about Obama's presidency and what it means for black America. But until that happens, they'll still be letting us down.
More.. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jul/26/cornel-west-tavis-smiley-disservice-african-americans
And, a huge disservice to themselves.
Can you not cut the president some slack, I ask? Think of what he faced. What did you expect? "I worked to get him elected," he says, almost indignant. "And I would do it again because the alternative was so much worse. But at the same time, I have to be able to tell the truth. I thought he was going to be a dyed-in-the-wool liberal rather than a weak centrist. I thought he would actually move towards healthcare with a public option. I thought he was going to try to bail out homeowners as he bailed out banks. I thought he would try to hit the issue of poverty head-on."
He and Obama, the first-time candidate, talked. And then West attended 65 events drumming up support. "He talked about Martin Luther King over and over again as he ran. King died fighting not just against poverty but against carpet-bombing in Vietnam; the war crimes under Nixon and Kissinger. You can't just invoke Martin Luther King like that and not follow through on his priorities in some way. I knew he would have rightwing opposition, but he hasn't tried. When he came in, he brought in Wall Street-friendly people – Tim Geithner, Larry Summers – and made it clear he had no intention of bailing out homeowners, supporting trade unions. And he hasn't said a mumbling word about the institutions that have destroyed two generations of young black and brown youth, the new Jim Crow, the prison industrial complex. It's not about race. It is about commitment to justice. He should be able to say that in the last few years, with the shift from 300,000 inmates to 2.5 million today, there have been unjust polices and I intend to do all I can. Maybe he couldn't do that much. But at least tell the truth. I would rather have a white president fundamentally dedicated to eradicating poverty and enhancing the plight of working people than a black president tied to Wall Street and drones."
Unsurprisingly, he and team Obama no longer speak. "They say I'm un-American."
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/may/13/cornel-west-they-say-i-am-unamerican
PREACH IT BROTHER!
policy wonk.
I'm okay with his Sanders endorsement.
instead she gets Michael Eric Dyson, a self-serving neoliberal opportunist of the highest order.
The heavyweight Democrat has a robust campaign machine — with political recognition, financial access, and unrivaled experience, her role in the presidential race is a solid one. She’s qualified, determined, brilliant, and pragmatic…and she’s keeping her eye on the Black base. With many high profile grassroots pro-Black activists publicly questioning her commitment to Black Liberation, she knows she’ll need Black foot soldiers with more reach and validity firmly in her corner.
Dyson is a good fit. He has the connections and platform without the threat. Cornel West is a threat. A few choice words about Clinton’s ties to mass incarceration and the Black base starts to look for other political options.
To me, Dyson’s article was a strategic maneuver — a preemptive setup that’s weak-kneed at best, and betrayal at worst. Dyson positioned himself as a respectable Black savior attuned to the revolutionary vibe, but deeply invested in capitalist/political infrastructure. Cornel West is his arch-villain, a fallen angel suffocating in the clutches of a demented satanic-like possession, while Dyson is a deliverer of reasonable truth and justice, even when, with closer inspection, his words ring shallow.
http://blackmillennials.com/2015/04/21/about-that-dyson-article/
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There will be a moment of reckoning when President Obama leaves office. White feminists will become the new media darlings in preparation for Hillary Clinton’s presidential run, and Obama will no longer be the site of exploration where many black people grapple with what real black political power looks like situated within a white supremacist structure. During that moment, identity politics and neoliberal agendas won't be able to masquerade as collective advancement, and we will climb out of this rabbit hole where progressive blackness seems to be defined by proximity to the African-American man in the White House.
And when that day comes, I’d be willing to place a bet that Cornel West will still be standing in his truth: scholar, activist and lover of black people, even when too many of us didn’t love him back.
Kirsten West Savali is a cultural critic and senior writer for The Root and was awarded a 2015 Harry Frank Guggenheim Fellowship. Her provocative commentary explores the intersections of race, social justice, religion, feminism, politics and pop culture.
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2015/04/michael_eric_dyson_s_cornel_west_essay_was_a_hit_piece_wrapped_in_scholarly.2.html
we cannot forget the need to look at PEOPLE, regardless of their outward appearance and their preferences.
We need to find common ground if we are ALL to move forward.
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When African-American friends defended the president, he went in on them. West called MSNBC’s Perry “a liar and a fraud,” claimed Sharpton was the “bona fide house negro of the Obama plantation,” and attacked “the Michael Dysons and others who’ve really prostituted themselves intellectually in a very, very ugly and vicious way.”
It’s true that as Dyson’s TNR piece bemoans the nasty ad hominem nature of West’s attacks on Obama, as well as on him and his colleagues, he gave almost as good as he got, first praising West as “the most exciting black scholar ever,” then charting his intellectual decline. “His greatest opponent isn’t Obama, Sharpton, Harris-Perry, or me,” the Georgetown scholar’s article concludes. “It is the ghost of a self that spits at him from his own mirror.”
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But that’s part of what stung me when he turned on Obama in such ad hominem ways, as you wrote in your piece. First, he tears into Obama for appealing to white people and reaching out to white people – when that used to be a core of West’s politics, too – and then he harps on the fact that the president is half white, too close to his “white brothers” and “Jewish brothers,” allegedly afraid of “free black men.” The trademark generosity of spirit was gone entirely, and we were left with a kind of racial essentialism – and borderline anti-Semitism, with the “Jewish brothers” crack. Who’s the real Cornel West? What happened? It was shocking. And I didn’t feel like people addressed it enough at the time.
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Now there are legitimate criticisms to be made, and I’ve made them. And there are white folks who criticize him, and it’s not from racism. However, the structural features of his presidency, the fact that this man is assaulted in so many ways and methods that assassinate his character — he has not been physically, thank God, assassinated — but there have been such rhetorical assaults on him. It’s unprecedented that a president didn’t automatically get the debt ceiling raised. Unprecedented that 47 senators would write our “enemy” compromising national security; it’s an unconsciously racist motivation, that I feel safe in saying. People see it, black and white…
Much More..
http://www.salon.com/2015/04/22/calling_obama_a_global_george_zimmerman_no_no_michael_eric_dyson_sounds_off_on_cornel_west_obama_his_critics/
Yes, cornel west hates President Obama.. starting when he didn't attend tavis smiley's Black State of the Union and offered to send Michelle Obama instead.
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Tavis Smiley was never an ardent supporter of President Obama. That of course is his right. His antagonism of the president during the 2008 Democratic Primaries hit a crescendo when the president did not attend Smiley’s “State Of The Black Union” forum in New Orleans even as Hillary Clinton did. In a further display of uncalled for arrogance, he rejected then Senator Obama’s request to have Michelle Obama represent him at the forum. Further he castigated Senator Obama for distancing himself from Reverend Jeremiah Wright, and for not attending African American events Smiley deemed he should attend. The height of this man’s arrogance, lack of scope, and self-serving hyperbole makes him an unfit spokesman for the cause of the poor and disenfranchised. That Dr. Cornel West has allowed himself to be Tavis Smiley’s sidekick speaks poorly of his judgment.
More http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/24/1164307/-Naivet-of-Tavis-Smiley-Cornel-West-Attack-On-Obama-Danger-To-Poor-Blacks
since I posted this OP. What a diverse bunch there is here. At least this helps me figure out who are the real LIBERALS, who are the third wayers, and who are the fakers.
And no, I haven't forgotten what he has said about Obama in the past, either.
Oops, I see he really was tossed under and backed over many times. Very sad.
