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On MSNBC talk show in pm, Romney has 105 million in an IRA! Is it possible? (Original Post) dmosh42 Jul 2012 OP
It's his rainy century fund BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #1
DUZY!! nt K8-EEE Jul 2012 #9
LOL Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #10
it does seem impossible even if he was Warren Buffet Schema Thing Jul 2012 #2
I believe it was on Martin Bashir show.(Guy who was moved to Rattigan's slot) dmosh42 Jul 2012 #7
Yes - tricky, but it's legal. AND only if you're RICH RICH RICH 66 dmhlt Jul 2012 #3
Ok, didn't realize he could do that with shares from the "Bain looting"! Thanks dmosh42 Jul 2012 #8
Yes. It is possible. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #4
If you have a 401K you can move the money to an IRA kimbutgar Jul 2012 #5
When will the media discover that Romney has a huge money vault just like Scrooge McDuck FSogol Jul 2012 #6
$100 million trust fund Rosanna Lopez Jul 2012 #11
Thom Hartmann and Victoria Jones are discussing this right now aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #12
Read the Vanity Fair article posted elsewhere...VERY interesting stuff... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #13
Not legally. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #14

Schema Thing

(10,283 posts)
2. it does seem impossible even if he was Warren Buffet
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:50 AM
Jul 2012

in his investing skills.



Where exactly did you hear this?

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
3. Yes - tricky, but it's legal. AND only if you're RICH RICH RICH
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:01 AM
Jul 2012
(H)ow can his I.R.A. possibly contain up to $102 million...?

The Romneys won’t say, but Mark Maremont, writing in The Wall Street Journal, uncovered a likely explanation. When Bain Capital bought companies, it would create two classes of shares, named A and L. The A shares were risky common shares, to which they would assign a very low value. The L shares were preferred shares, paying a high dividend but with the payoff frozen, and most of the value was assigned to them. Bain employees would then put the exciting A shares in their I.R.A. accounts, where they grew tax-free. With all the risk of the deal, the A shares stood to gain a lot or collapse. But if the deal succeeded, the springing value could be stunning: Bain employees saw their A shares from one particularly fruitful deal grow 583-fold, 16 times faster than the underlying stock.


http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/2012/08/investigating-mitt-romney-offshore-accounts

GoCubsGo

(32,100 posts)
4. Yes. It is possible.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:05 AM
Jul 2012

The limit is something like $3000 per year, although one can put in more. But, one would have to pay an "excess contribution " tax of 6% per year. Unless his IRA is earning way more that 6%, I can't see how it would be worth it to him to stick that kind of money in an IRA.

kimbutgar

(21,258 posts)
5. If you have a 401K you can move the money to an IRA
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:42 AM
Jul 2012

I had a job where they contributed my bonuses into a 401K and it was more than the $2000 annually when I left I was able to transfer the money over to an IRA account.

FSogol

(45,580 posts)
6. When will the media discover that Romney has a huge money vault just like Scrooge McDuck
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jul 2012

and that he spends his evenings rolling around in a pile of $100s and Krugerrands.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
12. Thom Hartmann and Victoria Jones are discussing this right now
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 04:58 PM
Jul 2012

Thom I believe said that you can only put up to $6,000 a year in a 401k. Victoria Jones is shaking her head, saying that she's asked several people about this and they don't know how it's possible to accumulate over $100 million this way . Apparently, the Romney campaign didn't respond to her requests for information. They're not saying point blank that it's illegal but they're both shaking their heads. I wish I knew more about it.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
13. Read the Vanity Fair article posted elsewhere...VERY interesting stuff...
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 05:29 PM
Jul 2012

...oh, and he got that much in his IRA by fucking people over, you know, the same way all of his other rich pals did...

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