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Clinton: Ill fight for the modern family
Democratic presidential candidate focuses on achievement gap, middle-class economics in Carroll event
By DOUGLAS BURNS, Staff Writer
" She promotes human rights and dignity whether it is a debt-strapped college student, parents of a child with disabilities or a good old-fashioned small-business person trying to make a living and be fair with their employees. Her message is universal, and sound bites dont do her justice. " Kathy Miller, chairwoman of Guthrie County Democratic Party
Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton focuses heavily on social justice issues during a speech in Carroll Sunday aftternoon.
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July 27, 2015
Carroll
Hillary Clinton says the next president of the United States must understand modern America, the changing nature of families, strong role of women, and use the Oval Office to bridge what she called an achievement gap so all young people toe the same starting line early in school.
Our families are different today than they were 50 years ago, Clinton said.
Clinton, the Democratic front-runner for the White House in Iowa and nationally, spoke to an invited crowd of more than 80 people Sunday afternoon south of Carroll at the home of Dr. Steven and Jill Kraus. Democrats from across western and central Iowa were at the event, with Guthrie, Greene, Polk and Adams counties among those represented. State Senate Majority Leader Michael Gronstal, D-Council Bluffs, attended, and earned a shout-out from Clinton, who referenced Carroll County as something of an ancestral home for him with his connection to Carroll County State Bank and the local Gronstal family.
Clinton drilled into economics issues quickly in a speech calling for an increase to the minimum wage with the door open to a geographically based scale with the wage floor being set higher in certain cities than rural areas. Clinton said her administration would incent profit-sharing by corporations for its employees, and aggressively support Main Street entrepreneurship, adding, I want to be the small-business president.
No. 1, weve got to get the economy working for everybody, Clinton said........................
http://www.carrollspaper.com/Content/Local-News-Archive/Politics/Article/Clinton-I-ll-fight-for-the-modern-family/1/335/20518
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)"I'll fight for the modern family. (tm.) some rights reserved, only valid where profit margin provides, promises made in regards to 'family' or 'modern' are subject to sponsor change at any time, some restrictions may apply, see legislature for details"
....now please don't beat me for making fun of her, I make fun of everyone that gives me a chance.
(I can only really get away with bernies hair so far, sorry)
Roland99
(53,342 posts)just what exactly is this "modern family"? Hedge-fund manager and his family? Insurance exec and his family?
Divernan
(15,480 posts)All One Percent kids have Nannys. Of course, employing Nannys reeks of privilege - so Nannys are typically kept on the down low by the very wealthy on public occasions. But you don't seriously think One Percent kids are in day care while Daddy is running the hedge fund and Mom is private-jetting it to international meetings and high society weddings in London. As opposed to Latch Key kids, who are on their own while Single Mom's at one of her two jobs.
So the word "modern" ranked well with the focus group? Suitably vague and therfore easily evolvable?
a person who advocates or practices a departure from traditional styles or values
of or relating to the present or recent times as opposed to the remote past
There are 2 subgroups of "modern" families, and they are defined by which side of the widening income gap in which they are located. Those with an ever increasing net worth and those who have ever diminishing income, hopes & dreams, expectations. I won't even mention "savings" or investments, because those are things of the past for the majority of Americans. If the bankers/Wall Street gets their obscenely greedy hands on social security investments through privatization, they will use transactional fees & maintenance charges to milk that dry too. George Carlin got it right - they are after our social security.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)Modern Family, is well different than Archie Bunker's family.
With all the snide swarming below, it seems like the Bernie crowd are fighting to find any word they can bash Hillary over. This particular meme is one of the silliest yet. You can try and laugh it off as a joke but you also made sure you were first in to respond.
You and you ilk feed a swarm of bitter people who cannot seem to leave acerbic statements alone for just one thread...ever. Nothin constructive, just trotting out the same old unproven points. And heaven help us if all you can come up with is Bernie's hair as an equality qualifier for jokes.
The reality is that today's family does face challenges that are different when Mrs. Cleaver stayed home and was able to raise a family, obedient to the one bread winner in the house.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Just feel told
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artislife
(9,497 posts)HFRN
(1,469 posts)whereas the 'traditional family' was more economically secure.
so in that context, yes, I believe she will fight for the 'modern family'
zentrum
(9,866 posts)also sends its sons, daughters, dads and moms off to unnecessary wars.
Divernan
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which means a lifetime of fighting to get VA medical care, and transporting them to and from same, not to mention the PTSD after-effects.
Gamecock Lefty
(701 posts)So I assume the crack pot shot about Hillary working for hedge fund managers is supposed to make me vote for Sanders? Or maybe the slam about her working for insurance execs will make me change my mind and support Sanders? All hail, King Bernie?
Not happening!
Whenever Hillary is mentioned on DU the Hillary-hating Bernistas come out in full force with words such as Wall Street, oligarchy, corporatist Dem, insurance, hedge fund, etc. What you dont realize is such comments make some of us (speaking for myself) dig in even deeper.
RAISE HILL 2016!
By the way, she looks very nice in that picture.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)or "King Bernie". Quite revealing.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Hillary Clinton, whatever her many other worthy qualities, identifies with the desires of Wall Street; she has no history of standing up to them, and a long history of supporting and agreeing with them. In that sense she's clearly been working for hedge fund managers; she does what they want. She keeps derivatives out of an open market or out of regulation.
Bryant
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)I can't tell if we sound like terrorists or starbucks employees, but I'll take it as a compliment in either case.
I make fun of everyone I can, it's not my fault she makes it so...damned....easy.
I don't expect you to vote for bernie (i'd really like you to, but I wouldn't ever expect you to), but to engage with the rest of us and laugh a little, take a breath.
If you want to qualify any of what's been said as 'Hate' I think you've got some mistaken definitions.
azmom
(5,208 posts)She'll get a kick out of that one. She is also a mexican and a hipster or a Mixter.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)I wonder if we can get the right to freak out over the terms?
azmom
(5,208 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)or the ancient family? or the future family?
Hotler
(11,473 posts)Divernan
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She won't commit to supporting $15/hour minimum wage because, you know, the cost of living varies across the country. OK. So with a 38 hour week - cause the corporate assholes won't hire people for 40 hours because then they'd have to include benefits, sick time, paid vacation, health insurance, etc., in the pay package - so a 38 hour week X $15/hour is a whopping $570 a week.
Based on 4.3 weeks per month, that's a magnanimous $2,450/month - before federal, state anand local income taxes,or FICA withholding, with NO health insurance, no paid sick time (and you could still lose your job if you don't show up because you or your kid falls ill).
So, apparently, if you are fortunate to live in say, Bumfu*k, Oklahoma or Outer Armpit, Arkansas, as opposed to NYC, LA, San Francisco or other urban areas with sky high housing costs, AND have no medical conditions, or car payments, auto repairs, dental or eyeglass costs, or student loan debt, AND then get paid the overwhelmingly magnanimous wage of $15 an hour, it will be "Oh, break out the caviar and champagne, no, make that chitlins' & moonshine, honey - we're livin' high on the hog now - we're on easy street for sure!"
Anyone who begrudges any worker ANYWHERE in this country from being paid a minimum wage of $15 an hour is so out of touch with financial realities, it's almost unbelievable.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)From the OP link:
Clinton spoke to an invited crowd of more than 80 people.
Why waste her time with those pesky unemployed, underemployed, too-financially-strapped-to afford-political-contributions families.
heaven05
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disposables, but what about us retired "family" members? Is she going to take care of creepublican efforts to dismantle our "entitlements"? Social Security, VA benefits for us veterans(vietnam-'agent orange') considered an "entitlement" by creepublicans? Is Medicare going to still be there to take care of us "disposables? These all beg an answer? Taking care of the generation(s) struggling with the creepublican forced hardships is laudable and necessary. Yet I hope she doesn't forget that she is part of the disposable generation, although won't be, not as a 1%er, as are not my(our generations) "family members". Really worried...
4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)Well if Bush would have been able to win the Texas Air War, I bet us vets would be getting a better "entitlement".
Divernan
(15,480 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/us-depleted-uranium-as-ma_b_3812888.html
Autumn
(45,120 posts)this modern family of which she speaks? My questions are moot. The one's named on the guest list don't sound much like the new struggling modern families.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)She's holding these "Conversations with Hillary" private fundraisers at private estates around the country. Here were the charges for the one she appeared at about a mile from my house. Her host has a net worth of $9.8 BILLION, and was the honored guest of Pennsyslvania arch-conservative GOP Senator Toomey at Netanyahu's address to the U.S. Senate.
The Conversations with Hillary fundraiser, expected to draw about 100 to 125 attendees, requested a minimum contribution of $1,000 per person, according to the email invitation Clinton's campaign finance team issued.
Clinton's fundraising blitz comes as a new Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll shows her numbers sagging in several key states and her favorability falling. Guests shelling out $2,700 get a photo with Clinton. Individuals who bundle supporters to raise $10,000 become event co-hosts. For $27,000, they get to be event hosts and secure membership in the campaign's Hillstarters program.
: http://triblive.com/politics/politicalheadlines/8761531-74/clinton-campaign-fundraiser#ixzz3geVS2ujZ
Autumn
(45,120 posts)That's the modern family.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Fighting for the modern family?
What sort of modern family? The one where a parent is wasting away in the prison industrial complex? The one where both parents have to work and many are working multiple jobs and still can't provide? The one where her support of DOMA would not have been possible?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)You're not supposed to mention DOMA or her opposition to lgbt rights during her last campaign.
Because...ancient history.
hootinholler
(26,449 posts)Something about being up a tree, k i s s i n g...
I guess I've been thinking wrong about Inevitable Hillary. It doesn't mean she will be the candidate inevitably, but that she will support a position once it becomes inevitable.
Thanks for the pro-tip!
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Her passionate defense of "traditional" marriage isn't something I'm willing to forget.
Well said!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)She's still behind Sanders and omalley on these things. How about pledging to fight for a $15 minimum wage, senator?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Then again, there probably aren't any GOP candidates who wouldn't say that, either. Talk's cheap.
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)Corporations ARE people now, so it's logical that they could also be considered as "Family" by some; especially those that receive the bulk of their sustenance from them.
azmom
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|Divernan
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What kind of clueless-to-reality advice should HRC expect from hiring pampered young people from families wealthy enough to subsidize a summer or more's living expenses so their little Madison or Chip could "volunteer" as an unpaid intern for HRC? It will look so good on their application to the Wharton or Harvard MBA programs, doncha know, dear?
Apparently whomever it was had no experience of life outside their bubble of entitlement, Aspen ski trips, European travel and prep schools.
If this meme of "modern family" was generated by someone higher up the food chain in the Clinton Campaign machine, all I can say is they've been inside the DC Beltway bubble way too long and are as out of touch with the reality of today's families' struggles as their boss.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and yes, it's very different from Archie Bunker family.
Sounds like you simply jumped on the "we found another thing to bash Hillary over" meme...and frankly this meme is extremely silly.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)She is speaking to a topic she knows is of value to everyone. The middle class is lost in the shuffle. It's the group taken advantage of at every turn and she is acknowledging that fact one more time. It's an on going theme.
I do like that she is keeping Economics and social issues as their own issues to deal with. This speech on economics was for the largest swath of the population.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Such an omission by Sanders saddled him with the "racist" label.
For shame. It seems the Clintonites have a double standard.
Divernan
(15,480 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)when she speaks on social issues you may just get you wish that she addresses POC.
eridani
(51,907 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,022 posts)LiberalAndProud
(12,799 posts)We have that. And when Nebraska voters pass a minimum wage hike, that is one huge indicator that the Federal minimum wage floor is far too low.
On the economy, Hillary's message doesn't resonate.
GeorgeGist
(25,326 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)damned if she doesn't around here. Even when she says something about the struggles that families face, there are non-supporters who find a way to take jabs at her. People on a Democratic site should be glad she's addressing the issue at all. If it was another certain candidate bringing this up, it would easily have dozens of recs.
TheKentuckian
(25,035 posts)BEHOLD THE MODERN FAMILY
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http://www.google.com/search?q=family+of+companies&prmd=in&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI35-azKv_xgIVxJOACh02SAMj&biw=640&bih=335&dpr=3#imgrc=rtw6rPBvbOkJ9M%3A
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I have no doubts she will fight for them, old fashioned biological ones can eat a whole bag of shit on the way to Hell with both hands yanking on bootstraps.