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http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/26/wall-street-links-hillary-clinton-aides-economic-policy-doubtsHillary Clinton aides' Wall Street links raise economic policy doubts
Tom Nides and Robert Hormats, once of Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs, are veterans of the revolving door between Washington and the financial sector
Ben Jacobs in Washington
Sunday 26 July 2015 08.00 EDT
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The former aides, Tom Nides and Robert Hormats, have shuttled between government and Wall Street for years. Nides, who is frequently described as a Clinton confidant, is a longtime Morgan Stanley executive who served as deputy secretary of state for management and resources from 2011 to 2013 before returning to Morgan Stanley. Nides is also the former chairman of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association (Sifma), the main lobbying group for Wall Street in Washington DC.
Hormats, a former vice-chairman of Goldman Sachs, served as under secretary of state for economic growth, energy and the environment from 2009 to 2013. He is currently vice-chairman of Kissinger Associates, the consulting firm founded by the former secretary of state Henry Kissinger.
Neil Sroka, a spokesman for the progressive advocacy group Democracy for America, expressed his angst about the influence of the two in Clinton world. Its hard to imagine how a presidential candidate is going to seriously confront the powerful, greed-driven interests on Wall Street when theyre taking advice and staffing cabinet posts with people who just clocked out of the same big banks and investment firms that made bundles from wrecking our economy, Sroka said.
Both Nides and Hormats have a strong history of taking pro-business stances on financial regulation and other issues near and dear to progressives. While at Morgan Stanley, which received a federal bailout, Nides pushed for the Obama administration to find the right balance in avoiding criticism of Wall Street in the aftermath of the financial crisis. He also played an important role in the Bill Clinton administration lobbying members of Congress to vote for Nafta in 1993.
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Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)did you miss that part?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Than others. Where else would you find someone than inside.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Vermont seems oddly immune to the Revolving Door Syndrome
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)The fox is now inside the henhouse, remember?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Advice from the fox future entry of other fox. The farmer would be wiser with the fox's advice.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And you've obviously never met a fox.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Someone who played the game and understands how offense and defense works?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)That's the difference between Hillary and Bernie.
Your football analogy is cute but Hillary wouldn't be the coach, she'd be the owner who never actually played the game but makes millions on the guys who do.
Bernie would be the guy who tells them to demand better protection on the field and more benefits from the millionaire owners.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)She would be interested in having a super bowl winner.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)She cares more about winning and making money than who's getting hurt on the field.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I need more than lip service from a candidate, I need a fighter who I can trust.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)She didn't exactly fight for all when it came to equal rights for lgbt people.
And if she wasn't smart enough to vote against giving Bush his war I have every reason to doubt her judgment when it comes to other issues.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)She had lots of company on AUMF which provided the funding. IWR was to have Bush exhaust all means before invading Iraq but he pulled the inspectors before the inspections was complete. The AUMF funded the invasion, two different bills. Check to see who voted for the AUMF and troop expansion.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Stop trying to defend and excuse her record.
Bernie knew she was wrong and so did millions of others, including me.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Her voluminous connections and entanglements with many of the worst people on the planet (Murdoch, KSA, Blankfein, Kissinger) suggests the exact opposite.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)She's got herself a little money laundry...I mean an important Foundtion. I can see it now. .."around the back boys...just shovel it in."
South and Central American Juntas. .. observe.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)They work at Monsato (or wherever) and then they're regulators. Then, magically, they end up at Monsato. They are still foxes, still gobbling up chickens, or helping their fox friends gobble up chickens, and preparing for their next stint as fox.
jalan48
(13,905 posts)Because everyone is honest and is going to do the right thing!
Hydra
(14,459 posts)And we can have all of them for the bargain price of $2 Billion for the election, and who knows how much later in handouts to these people.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Blankfein and the other banksters own her lock, stock and barrel. They say jump, she asks "how high?"
And even more connections to war criminal Henry Kissinger.
Jeezus on a goddamn pogo stick.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)What part of that is so hard to understand? Vote for Hillary, and let the club be... they've got people to see, places to go, and things to do.
Just be happy with that $15 minimum wage that won't be reached for a couple years... the wage that's calculated to mollify, and NOT to make life better or increase mobility but to keep those people in the inner cities and away from the estates of Wall Street and Government types.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Some say not in my name, some say how can I get a piece.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Senator Tankerbell
(316 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)next you Leftbagging commie-nazis will be pointing to her *record* and *what she says*, yeesh!
we, on the other hand, have something nobody can contradict: we don't want her to be a corpo! Q.E. fuckin' D.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom