Mississippi Business Journal: "Big Money, meet Bernie Sanders"

[99th_Monkey]

Since her failed ’08 nomination, the Democrat’s Hillary Clinton has made sure to coddle up to Big Money. Look at her top donors – Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan. You need them to win and she looks poised to keep the Democrats in the White House for another 8 years.

Enter the Dragon. Bernie Sanders from the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont. Actually Bernie is from Burlington, but that’s not all that far from the Northeast Kingdom as the crow flies. Bernie calls himself a socialist, a champion of the poor and middle class, and an enemy of the corrupting influence of Big Money in politics. His campaign is gaining momentum and his poll numbers look good. One poll has him at 32% of the primary vote and rising as opposed to Hillary’s 44% and dropping.

Hillary may be who the Democrats need in order to win in November. Bernie may be what the nation needs. He will pull voters who, while weary of his economics, are desperate to see things done differently in Washington. He has the old hippie and dying hipster vote, but he is quickly gaining among the disillusioned yuppie and the progressive-minded yuccie vote. People who won’t vote for Bernie are those fearing the specter of socialism or the commie boogeyman. Then there are those Americans in the top one percent who view themselves as temporarily embarrassed billionaires and, of course, “the oligarchs,” as Bernie calls them – that one-tenth of the top one percent – who have their hooks in every other candidate in the Presidential race, including Hillary.

Hillary with the help of the DNC has limited her primary debates against Bernie. It’s a smart move on her part. Just as Obama seared himself into the national spotlight during his debates with a weak sounding Clinton, Bernie will burn Hillary beyond recognition. The mean, old white man from Vermont will have her seeing red. She may be tempted to paint herself as blue as Mel Gibson in Braveheart to get the nomination. Just last week, in yet another big campaign kickoff announcement, Clinton stole Bernie’s anti-oligarch rhetoric without saying the word “oligarch.” Bernie, by contrast, throws it around freely and with genuine aplomb.

Hillary’s rhetoric against the influence of Big Money in politics is as empty as that of the great gaggle of Republican presidential hopefuls.
MORE: http://msbusiness.com/2015/06/david-dallas-big-money-meet-bernie-sanders/

[elehhhhna]

1. Top donors same as the '08 cycle. Bankers - she's always courted bankers.

[JDPriestly]

2. Interesting take. Not sure what I think of it, but it is possibly quite an accurate view.

[glinda]

3. Same here.

[99th_Monkey]

4. I love it's in Mississippi Business Journal, of all places

That's what impressed me about it, and it's definitely very positive & supportive of
Bernie's candidacy. Which is what it will take for Bernie to win red states.

[Duppers]

8. My first thoughts too.

Mississippi, no less. Wow!

[Godhumor]

5. Well don't I feel like an ass

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Edit: been pointed out to me that there is a NH specific poll that has it that close. I was thinking in terms of general candidate polls. Will keep the original post below, so you can all see my misplaced indignation.

Not one. In fact, not even remotely close. So if the author can't even be bothered to research something as basic as polling results, what does that say about the rest of the article?

[LiberalAndProud]

6. There is a New Hampshire poll that reflects those numbers.

http://www2.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html

http://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/150502_crosstabs_mc_NH_v1_AD.pdf

https://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/6_16_2015_final_marginals.pdf


So what is it you were you saying about research?

[Duppers]

7. It's you who cannot be bothered!

Not one? How about New Hampshire!

Your post is rather rich, as the Brits like to say.

http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/06/15/new-hampshire-poll-clinton-44-sanders-32/

[Godhumor]

9. Then forgive me, I misread the intent of the original author

I thought he was talking overall preference for candidate not something specific to one state.

[Snotcicles]

10. That last sentence sums it all up. nt

[pa28]

11. The author wonders if the Dem establishment will support Bernie if he wins.

Good question considering unions and powerful Democrats did not support or offered tepid support for George McGovern in 1972. They preferred four more years of Richard Nixon.

[99th_Monkey]

12. In Bernie's case, I'm not so worried about Labor unions

as I am about the DNC & Hillary's millions & her support, as
the author says "will Hillary be willing to be a good soldier and
true democrat, putting her Super PAC money behind Bernie Sanders?"

I think Bernie is stronger on labor issues than Hillary, by far. Look
no further than the TPP on that one. Labor support for Hillary is
more them buying into her "inevitability", than being truly thrilled
about her actual record on Labor issues.

[sabrina 1]

13. Campaign rhetoric means nothing if it doesn't match a candidate's record.

And that is why. Bernie KEEPS attracting more and more supporters.

His record is reflective of what he is saying and voters are seeing this and flocking to hear him speak.

Sick and tired of candidates suddenly talking about things they OPPOSED in the past just to get votes during election cycles, then forgetting them again once they are elected, Bernie is a rare politician who has been consistent throughout his life on issues and voters are excited to finally have someone who represents them on the important issues.

[MisterP]

14. and that's the central issue with the Clinton campaign: nobody I know really believes

that anything she promises will STICK; everything is up for grabs the moment her and Roberts' hands go down January 2017

the same goes for the polls--they don't measure how strongly someone really supports the candidate or volatility: she could be at 95% but might be at 5% in a few months

[sabrina 1]

15. Better to watch polls than talk about issues I suppose.

Polls have not caught up with technology. Most telephone polls are conducted via landlines. Most people now, especially young people, don't use landlines.

So large segments of the population are not being polled at all. Bernie is wise not to waste money on polling, he KNOWS what people want to hear and he knows where he stands and isn't going to change where he stands because of any poll.