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Iowa Student Tells CNN How Hillary Planted Question in Crowd (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 OP
Clip didn't play. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #1
"I have zero problem with planted questions." Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #4
Don't know what to tell you then. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #11
I don't think that Bernie plants questions virtualobserver Jul 2015 #15
Not sure I am buying that. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #17
we all know what the questions are going to be on talk shows..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #22
I agree, it isn't his style. However at the Netroots town hall, it sure looked like he had a plant still_one Jul 2015 #26
true, and looking at the lack of coverage by networks of this protest virtualobserver Jul 2015 #28
If one took the time to watch the videos, Bernie not only dealt with the situation well, but still_one Jul 2015 #29
It's different for Bernie because he has the same answers to every question. Walk away Jul 2015 #92
Bernie does stay on message virtualobserver Jul 2015 #93
It's a mantra for him. LuvLoogie Jul 2015 #104
This is a touch different... jimlup Jul 2015 #18
Conflating interview questions with planting someone in the audience to ask a question is hilarious. djean111 Jul 2015 #64
This wasn't a talk show. arcane1 Jul 2015 #82
This video was from before our last president was elected. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #86
Click on the video and you'll be directed to YouTube where you can watch it. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #6
I like this youtube DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #9
" lookin' like I robbed Liberace"....one of my favorite lines ever... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #50
Pardon my cultural ignorance but your reference alludes me./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #68
From "California Love" (Dre's part) Indepatriot Jul 2015 #80
TY -nt =no topic DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #81
Cultural Reference re: Liberace 1monster Jul 2015 #84
I know who Liberace is...I loved "Beyond the Candelabra" DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #85
I am not Catholic but I would place it under venial sins if I were./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #7
I like that. It gave me a chuckle. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #14
I agree Sheepshank Jul 2015 #58
They are holding this position as if all questions asked to her will be planted. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #63
Exactly. okasha Jul 2015 #87
But when the questions are planted because Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #32
"but to her viability as a candidate" NCTraveler Jul 2015 #33
If she is not as knowledgeable on the issues as Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #37
Give me a minute. Cleaning the drink off my monitor. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #38
She needs to go up against an (R) you know.... Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #40
Not a viable candidate. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #42
IF she isn't knowledgeable. Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #43
We all need to smile. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #56
She is the "smartest woman on earth"! pocoloco Jul 2015 #70
lol. That's too funny. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #72
Why is that? zentrum Jul 2015 #41
In any event, Hillary zentrum Jul 2015 #47
If this is what did them in, she didn't have that person in the first place. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #53
The young woman said that she had yet to make up her mind and was attending 1monster Jul 2015 #88
Wonder if anyone was ever able to follow up to find out who she voted for. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #89
Heh. bvf Jul 2015 #2
Conveniently the OP neglected to post the date of the video - 2007!!!! George II Jul 2015 #52
She's evolved from planting questions. frylock Jul 2015 #61
Equally conveniently, bvf Jul 2015 #62
Of course it is. TM99 Jul 2015 #3
More desperation 'news' from 2007. onehandle Jul 2015 #5
"Desperate people do desperate things." DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #8
Let's hope not. We can't afford too many more mistakes like this Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #10
I like this Hillary youtube better DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #13
Or the bigger mistake with the vote on AUMF which did the funding of the war. Ask Bernie why he Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #20
Nice regurgitated talking point. Too bad it doesn't make any sense. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #21
One needs to accept the full story, the same day the IWR vote happened then the AUMF occurred, had Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #23
Honestly you seem confused. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #25
Yes there had to be funding for the IWR, the IWR did not provide the funding. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #90
Question to Clinton, "Are you backed by Big Oil; and if so, what is your Energy Policy"? DhhD Jul 2015 #49
That's the first thing I noticed even before the video began - desperation for sure! George II Jul 2015 #54
20 years of town halls just us Jul 2015 #12
I think you are correct in pointing out the similarities between the Clinton campaigning and Snotcicles Jul 2015 #34
The difference between... 99Forever Jul 2015 #16
Which one? The one who was attacked by sniper fire or who spoke of the virtues of "hard working Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #19
Take your choice my friend. 99Forever Jul 2015 #27
I know for sure one choice won't be HRC. That's for damn sure. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #102
Do Thom Hartmann and Bernie have a list of questions for callers to choose from... cascadiance Jul 2015 #66
My response was not about BLM and you need to not talk down or be condescending. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2015 #103
Well, Hillary sure isn't afraid of answering hard questions, or she could have taken the opportunity Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #24
Or maybe just avoid speaking in front of the group. That works too. jalan48 Jul 2015 #31
I like saying "Shutup" better. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #60
LOL-or..... jalan48 Jul 2015 #69
How do you know the "hard questions" she answers Motown_Johnny Jul 2015 #35
Thing is, even in the debates the candidates probably have a pretty good idea what's coming. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #67
To bad the student went along with and didn't ask her question instead. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #30
Politicians! newfie11 Jul 2015 #36
What difference does it make? Yesterday the whining was about the answers - today the questions?!! Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #39
Well, for some of us ethics is important. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #48
Most have very flexible sense of ethics Bradical79 Jul 2015 #79
It is minor, it is even less significant to those who dismiss it. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #83
Is this supposed to be a bad thing or something? Gman Jul 2015 #44
I still remember a phony bit at the first Clinton inauguration where Hillery was vanlassie Jul 2015 #45
The Clintons and The Truth Indepatriot Jul 2015 #46
You had to go all the way back to 2007 (8 years ago) to find and post this? George II Jul 2015 #51
It just popped up today during that video of Hillary laughing about Gaddafi being anally raped... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #57
Mark Twain said: Snotcicles Jul 2015 #59
Unhelpful at best Android3.14 Jul 2015 #55
This is smarmy, but.... blackspade Jul 2015 #65
Never met, or worked for, a political candidate (even for City Council) that didn't plant DonViejo Jul 2015 #71
That's too bad :-( Bradical79 Jul 2015 #75
Even radio talk shows featuring candidates have planted questions.... DonViejo Jul 2015 #78
This is an awesome thread! DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #73
Thanks but this thread is weak.... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #74
That thread is awesome(r)./nt DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #77
All part of the show Blue Owl Jul 2015 #76
"Probably still going on"? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #91
No different than Trump paying supporters Fearless Jul 2015 #94
Loved what she said at the end about how it "takes the voter out of it" n/t whatchamacallit Jul 2015 #95
Quelle surprise. AtomicKitten Jul 2015 #96
Much About Nothing Nitram Jul 2015 #97
I'm glad you think it's OK for politicians to plant people in the audience and then pretend to Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #98
I'm so glad you're glad. Nitram Jul 2015 #99
She is pretending to select a random person with their hand raised for a question. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #100
You may as well bvf Jul 2015 #101
LOL! Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #105
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. Don't know what to tell you then.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:01 AM
Jul 2015

You are going to be disappointed a lot. Every candidate plants questions. Every single one. When O'Malley and Sanders do the talk show circuit don't think they haven't worked out certain questions in advance with hosts along with the opportunity to elaborate. It would truly be stupid if they didn't. It is a great way to get to know the candidates deeper thoughts on issues. It is a positive. Not a negative. Then again, there are people here completely opposed to lobbyists. Not partially. Totally. Not just the revolving door, which I am strongly against, but lobbyists as a whole. That thought in itself goes completely against the concept of a Representative Republic and almost all other forms of democracy. Certain things I really don't mind being an outsider on du. The list is shore. Planted questions are perfectly fine with me, as they are with politicians. It happens every single Sunday on your tv with every politician who does an interview.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. Not sure I am buying that.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:14 AM
Jul 2015

I wouldn't find it to be a positive or negative if he did or didn't. I just don't see this as some kind of gotcha. Sanders has gone into numerous interviews knowing what the initial questions are going to be. It's called the Sunday morning talk circuit. I'm sure O'Malley has done the same. I think Clinton by far leads in message control in this area.

Why doesn't it bother me? It gives candidates the opportunity to give more thoughtful and detailed answers. I also know that the primary and general are so long that no candidate can make it through on planted questions alone. It's impossible.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
22. we all know what the questions are going to be on talk shows.....
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:35 AM
Jul 2015

I don't see them as "planted" questions.

I don't see planted questions as unethical. It just leads to a more scripted performance during Q and A which I am not a fan of.

If Bernie wants to say something about a particular issue, he puts it into his stump speech.
Q and A should bring up issues that are outside of his plans.





still_one

(92,409 posts)
26. I agree, it isn't his style. However at the Netroots town hall, it sure looked like he had a plant
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jul 2015

from BLM................. (Sarcasm)

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
28. true, and looking at the lack of coverage by networks of this protest
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:59 AM
Jul 2015

I think that they would have been better served by protesting Hillary.

I think that I see why BLM protesters are shouting.

still_one

(92,409 posts)
29. If one took the time to watch the videos, Bernie not only dealt with the situation well, but
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jul 2015

actually went on to address some of their concerns as evidenced by the applause by some within that audience to his remarks.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
92. It's different for Bernie because he has the same answers to every question.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:13 PM
Jul 2015

Everything is either about Banks, 1% or the price of cable boxes. I realize that is being facetious but honestly, any question he is asked always circles back to his limited message. Probably one of the reasons that BLM was so frustrated with him.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
93. Bernie does stay on message
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 01:28 PM
Jul 2015

and I think that he does see economic issues at the root of a lot of things.

He didn't just march with Rev. King , he took on MLK's economic ideas
like “democratic socialism”.

http://nebraskansforpeace.org/mlk-justice

he might need to tweak his language a bit, but Bernie is Bernie.

LuvLoogie

(7,034 posts)
104. It's a mantra for him.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 06:19 PM
Jul 2015

For the past few years I have listened to him on Thom Hartman's "Breakfast" or "Brunch with Bernie" It's the same damned show every week after week. The same answers with the exact same wording, week after week.

And, yes, the answer to 75% of all questions and comments is the SAME ANSWER.

Bernie has a lot to say about where we are and how we got there; hindsight is 20/20. And he has a lot to say about where we should be.

BUT, he is really thin on how to get there. He has stayed in Vermont most of his life as a government official. He has't built any coalition or base of influence. He is a lone wolf trying to be President, and politics is more than making great speeches to sympathetic audiences.

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are in a class by themselves. Great speakers and great relationship builders. Hillary Clinton has a different kind of charisma, a behind the scenes, "I want to work with her" presence, it seems.

That 30 to 50 point lead has been built over a life of service.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
18. This is a touch different...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:15 AM
Jul 2015

This is a public event where the questions are set to appear spontaneous. With a Sunday talk show the fact that the event is staged is obvious.

I don't disagree that it is almost certain that most candidates and politicians do this kind of planting. Nevertheless, it is disingenious. Watching the video my heart goes out to the college student. She is getting a lesson in how the world actually works and she recognizes that. Ah, to be young and naive!

If I had been in her shoes I'd have hoped I had had the guts to actually ask my question and not theirs. Or even better, I would be interested to see her reaction had I asked "So Senator Clinton, how do you feel about your campaign planting questions in the audience at your campaign events?"

Sometimes reality accidentally shows through but you've got to be attentive to notice it. As an aside - isn't this a tactic prefected by snake oil salesmen and evangelists? That in and of itself is telling.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
64. Conflating interview questions with planting someone in the audience to ask a question is hilarious.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:24 AM
Jul 2015
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
82. This wasn't a talk show.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:13 PM
Jul 2015

Our last president was mocked and criticized for having plants in his audiences.


Note: I haven't watched the video yet.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
86. This video was from before our last president was elected.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jul 2015

2007. Not sure why that would change my opinion in any way. Clearly it isn't a talk show. Also, to anyone willing to be honest, this clearly isn't anything new.

 

Indepatriot

(1,253 posts)
80. From "California Love" (Dre's part)
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jul 2015

"Now it's 95 and they clock me and watch Me
Diamonds shinin' lookin' like I robbed Liberace"...

My online ignorance includes not knowing what "/nt" means. Can you clue me in?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,714 posts)
85. I know who Liberace is...I loved "Beyond the Candelabra"
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jul 2015

I was just wondering its relevance to this thread and my post.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. I like that. It gave me a chuckle.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:04 AM
Jul 2015

It really can be a way to get a deeper understanding of where a candidate stands on a specific issue. I get why some might think it is taboo, I'm just not one of them. I know that the primary and general election are dragged on for so long that no candidate can go the whole process with nothing but planted questions. Just the opposite.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
58. I agree
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:18 AM
Jul 2015

I do believe that many questions are off the cuff, but the planted questions can permit the candidate to talk about a specific issue that is near and dear to them, and gives the candidate a chance to go into detail.

It's a campaign strategy and they all do it.

And for those that don't think questions are ever staged in some way.....there is nothing noble in "Hoping" a candidates message gets out there by accident.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
63. They are holding this position as if all questions asked to her will be planted.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:23 AM
Jul 2015

A position that is not base in reality in any way at all. While I do think it is good to know, it is negative in no way. I would like to contrast the treatment of this young woman by Clinton supports compared to the treatment of anyone questioning Sanders. It's night and day. You would know every detail of her life at this point if she said something about Sanders.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
32. But when the questions are planted because
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:37 AM
Jul 2015

the candidate is unable to answer an actual question, it is a problem.

HRC is running on being knowledgeable about the issues we face and how to solve them. This cuts not only to her credibility, but to her viability as a candidate.



 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
37. If she is not as knowledgeable on the issues as
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jul 2015

she pretends to be, then she is not as viable a candidate as we think.

Lets see how she does in the debates.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
40. She needs to go up against an (R) you know....
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:45 AM
Jul 2015

assuming she wins the nomination.

If she doesn't have a firm grasp of the issues then she has nothing. Her "wonkishness" is her one and only hope to become President.


 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
42. Not a viable candidate.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jul 2015

Sorry, still laughing. Hard to really discuss something with someone who would believe something like that. I truly couldn't make this up. I don't have it in me. Hillary isn't viable. Wow.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
56. We all need to smile.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

I appreciate you giving me a big chuckle this morning.

"IF she isn't knowledgeable."

That really makes it even more funny. I so appreciate you making me smile. That in itself is priceless.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
72. lol. That's too funny.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:48 AM
Jul 2015

Righties can be so childish. Even the arrogance is off the charts. Look, or righty got one over on the smartest woman in the world. Can you believe it, his crossed his fingers. My hero. lol. I have been given some good laughs here this morning. Thanks for that one. I get what you are saying about some thinking they are witty when it is simply childish behavior. Still, it's funny sometimes. It's just what some guys do when they are in the presence of a strong woman.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
41. Why is that?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jul 2015

There's lots of ways to deal with an issue that you want to talk about without manipulating the situation. Why can't she just bring it up herself?

Why are you okay with her making it appear that a young person had a real interest in this question? I'm interested in your thinking.

Why not just script the town hall/rally/Q&A altogether? Why bother to have any of it be spontaneous?

Why not make it all produced—like "reality" TV?

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
47. In any event, Hillary
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

…..probably lost this young voter who said she wanted a "real conversation".

Suggest you watch her video to the end and see the effect the plant had on her.

Trust is the main issue people have with Hillary. This is but a small example that shows why that is.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
53. If this is what did them in, she didn't have that person in the first place.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:13 AM
Jul 2015

As to you other question, I have elaborated multiple times. If this is of concern to you and has taken you out of her corner, come take a look at O'Malley. By far the most accomplished progressive running. Thanks.

1monster

(11,012 posts)
88. The young woman said that she had yet to make up her mind and was attending
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:27 PM
Jul 2015

as many events as she could to gather information. She was thrilled to be seeing the person "who might be the next president."

I got the impression that she was excited at the possibility of Hillary, but was somewhat put off by the manipulation.

She may still end up voting for Hillary, but some of the shine has gone out of it for her. When you lose the shine, voting becomes a chore rather than a pleasure. And many people avoid or procrastinate (terminally) on chores.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
2. Heh.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:52 AM
Jul 2015

Rationing my data, so I didn't watch, but I'm bookmarking.

Shill-gate!

(OK, that's not fair. Yet.)

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
62. Equally conveniently,
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:21 AM
Jul 2015

if Sanders's votes in the 90s are fodder for discussion, then so is this (put as many exclamation points as you like here, George).

BOOM!

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
3. Of course it is.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 08:53 AM
Jul 2015

This is the Clinton machine. It is well oiled, well scripted, Madison Avenue approved, and slick as can be. I mean she can afford it with all of that money she is getting so why not? She wants to be president very very bad!

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
20. Or the bigger mistake with the vote on AUMF which did the funding of the war. Ask Bernie why he
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:17 AM
Jul 2015

voted to fund the war, fund the expansion of troops, etc. The war is on Bernie's hands as much as Hillary. She does not run around denying her vote, explained why she voted this way. She also voted yes on the AUMF. She doesn't deny this either.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
21. Nice regurgitated talking point. Too bad it doesn't make any sense.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:21 AM
Jul 2015

You have to know how to use regurgitated talking points for it to make sense.

You're talking about the 2001 AUMF that authorized the invasion of Afghanistan and other "anti-terrorist" operations. It didn't authorize the invasion of Iraq. Hillary voted for that.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. One needs to accept the full story, the same day the IWR vote happened then the AUMF occurred, had
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:37 AM
Jul 2015

to have the funds for the war. Yes, makes sense.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
25. Honestly you seem confused.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jul 2015

THE AUMF in Iraq was this:

The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] Pub.L. 107–243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing military action against Iraq.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

Again here:
H.J.Res. 114 (107th): Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002

See Sanders vote here:

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/107-2002/h455


DhhD

(4,695 posts)
49. Question to Clinton, "Are you backed by Big Oil; and if so, what is your Energy Policy"?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jul 2015

And, "Are you backed by Big Oil; and if so what is your Climate Change Policy"?

In my opinion these questions are coming? Brainwashing and hiding are not a characteristic of a viable candidate for many Americans. We are tired of corporate shit running down our economy and the very planet that gives us life.

just us

(105 posts)
12. 20 years of town halls
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:03 AM
Jul 2015

Anyone who has a planned question problem needs to look of the last 20 years of right wing and/or tea bag staged meetings. Most of them even had restricted entry.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
34. I think you are correct in pointing out the similarities between the Clinton campaigning and
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jul 2015

right wing/ tea bag campaigning.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
19. Which one? The one who was attacked by sniper fire or who spoke of the virtues of "hard working
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:16 AM
Jul 2015

white people"?

I despise the woman! But admittedly, Bernie has a lot of work to do, too.

 

cascadiance

(19,537 posts)
66. Do Thom Hartmann and Bernie have a list of questions for callers to choose from...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:26 AM
Jul 2015

... when they call in to his weekly town hall session with Thom Hartmann on his radio show for the last decade?

NO! Bernie is prepared for spontaneous questioning and thinks on his feet, and answers honestly with his heart. He has gotten used to spontaneous conversations on a very frequent basis that has not only a local but national audience.

Now, obviously call screeners are trying to make sure that someone isn't trying to do something crazy like curse on the air or things like that, but I don't think they are saying "here are the list of questions you can choose from to ask Bernie." There might be a topic of the day that they try to have thematic questions for and encourage people to call about even on the air, but the caller I believe is free to ask their own question.

If Hillary wants to show that she can be as spontaneous and honest responding to people's questions, then maybe she should agree to doing a special session or two with Thom Hartmann a certain week. Hartmann has issued challenges and a welcome for other candidates to share an hour with him on his show like he does Bernie.

And for those that feel Bernie avoids BLM people that they feel they can't just ask normal questions but need to protest him instead, maybe some should try calling in on the Brunch with Bernie segments that Hartmann has. Not sure how many Bernie has in the coming weeks with his busy campaign schedule, but I'm guessing they'll be fitting a few in, usually on Friday morning the first hour of Hartmann's show at noon eastern time.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
103. My response was not about BLM and you need to not talk down or be condescending.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jul 2015

Some of you Bernie fans are not winning over black voters with your condescension. You need to stop this shit. STOP IT!

Bernie knows how to address his audience. Allow him to do so. He doesn't need his fans to lecture black voters or tell black voters what to do. We are quite intelligent people and we'll make up our own minds.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. Well, Hillary sure isn't afraid of answering hard questions, or she could have taken the opportunity
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 09:38 AM
Jul 2015

to say "Shutup", now that would be classy, huh.

jalan48

(13,886 posts)
69. LOL-or.....
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:42 AM
Jul 2015

I just wanted to meet with you but I'm all booked up this week. How about I give you a call next week? That's right, don't call me, I'll call you. Have a nice day!

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
35. How do you know the "hard questions" she answers
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jul 2015

are not also staged?

For all we know, every question she answers is planted.


The debates will be very telling.


Buns_of_Fire

(17,197 posts)
67. Thing is, even in the debates the candidates probably have a pretty good idea what's coming.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:31 AM
Jul 2015

The campaigns dictate everything else, I'm sure they also insist on a general outline of the topics so their candidate doesn't look foolish. The only "think on your feet" moments are when one candidate casually tosses a grenade into one of the other's laps (so to speak).

That's why the League of Women Voters stopped sponsoring them. In their own words, "The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."

(See http://lwv.org/press-releases/league-refuses-help-perpetrate-fraud )

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
30. To bad the student went along with and didn't ask her question instead.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jul 2015

But I imagine she felt obligated to them for taking the ride.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
39. What difference does it make? Yesterday the whining was about the answers - today the questions?!!
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:43 AM
Jul 2015

Making mountains out of molehills is hard work. Newsmax hearts you!

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
79. Most have very flexible sense of ethics
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jul 2015

As far as all the unethical things politicians do, this is extremely minor and questionably timed, but still a little depressing for some of us.

 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
83. It is minor, it is even less significant to those who dismiss it.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 12:14 PM
Jul 2015

It's a matter of values I guess.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
44. Is this supposed to be a bad thing or something?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:50 AM
Jul 2015

You may not know that in our democracy, things just don't happen by chance. This is pretty much SOP in every campaign.

And if the Sanders campaign isn't doing it yet because his support is pretty narrow and defined and predictable, he will definitely start doing it after the BLM incident to better control ambushes.

vanlassie

(5,689 posts)
45. I still remember a phony bit at the first Clinton inauguration where Hillery was
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 10:52 AM
Jul 2015

"Overheard" huddling with Bill saying some poor regular family had not gotten in to the event for some sad reason so didn't he think they should give them some special passes or some such thing. I winced, as a supporter, because it looked and sounded so staged. ....But planted questions? No biggie, to me.

George II

(67,782 posts)
51. You had to go all the way back to 2007 (8 years ago) to find and post this?
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:08 AM
Jul 2015

Below the video:

Uploaded on Nov 13, 2007
Iowa Muriel Gallo Tells CNN How Hillary Planted Question


How Rovian of you.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
57. It just popped up today during that video of Hillary laughing about Gaddafi being anally raped...
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:15 AM
Jul 2015

First I had heard of it. I'm not sure how youtube makes suggestions or why they thought it would be relevant.
 

Snotcicles

(9,089 posts)
59. Mark Twain said:
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:19 AM
Jul 2015

Few things in life are harder to put up with, than the annoyance of a good example.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
55. Unhelpful at best
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:14 AM
Jul 2015

This OP is 8 years old. Eight years!

This doesn't help HRC, Bernie S, or anyone else.

Why the heck did you post this?

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
65. This is smarmy, but....
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jul 2015

There are plenty of actual substantive things to get after Clinton about.
This is a non scandal scandal.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
71. Never met, or worked for, a political candidate (even for City Council) that didn't plant
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:45 AM
Jul 2015

at least one question in an audience.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
75. That's too bad :-(
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:54 AM
Jul 2015

It doesn't inspire much hope when even the simplest things are phoney and controlled.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
78. Even radio talk shows featuring candidates have planted questions....
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

Many times, the questions are planted because the candidate wants to address the issue raised in the question and is fearful it won't be asked. I don't see anything wrong with it.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
96. Quelle surprise.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 02:52 PM
Jul 2015
Charlatan: Quack, sham, fraud, fake, impostor, hoaxer, cheat, deceiver, double-dealer, swindler, fraudster, mountebank; informalphony, shark, con man, con artist, scam artist, flimflammer, bunco artist, snake oil salesman; datedconfidence man/woman "the shallow promise of a charlatan selling snake oil"

Nitram

(22,890 posts)
97. Much About Nothing
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:41 PM
Jul 2015

But I do find it amusing that the Bernista above suggests that priming someone to ask a question she wants to talk about means she can't answer some other hypothetical question. What's to stop anyone else from asking that question? why do you have to strain so hard to find something to attack Clinton with at every turn? Oh, because you fear her intelligence, knowledge and liberal instincts.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
98. I'm glad you think it's OK for politicians to plant people in the audience and then pretend to
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:44 PM
Jul 2015

select one of the many with their hand up. To me it seems like a fraud. If you're not bothered by it, OK, but some people are.


Nitram

(22,890 posts)
99. I'm so glad you're glad.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:51 PM
Jul 2015

And sorry that you couldn't tell me how that means she can't answer a question. If everybody hears the question, and everybody hears the answer, how is that fraud?

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
100. She is pretending to select a random person with their hand raised for a question.
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 03:55 PM
Jul 2015

But really she is selecting a few people who were planted in the audience to ask "safe" questions.

She is pretending to take questions from the public, but really she is not. Really she's answering a question she already knew was coming. That way there is not risk of getting caught with a question you don't know the answer to.

If you're ok with that, that's nice. Some people don't like it too much.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
101. You may as well
Tue Jul 21, 2015, 04:33 PM
Jul 2015

prepare handouts containing the predetermined questions and answers, and distribute them before anyone even sits down. That seems to fit your criterion just as well, and wouldn't be fraudulent at all.

Alternatively, you could do a Putin, have a secretary record the questions, and schedule a follow-up session a couple of days hence, during which answers could be given, provided the questions were deemed worthy of an answer.

Or, hell, fuck it: Just put her behind a $2,700/question paywall.

Crimony.

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