2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA co-chair of Ralph Nader's 2000 campaign has started promoting Senator Sanders.
Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2015, 04:09 PM - Edit history (1)
Jim Hightower stumped for him across the country, appearing at many 'super-rallies' for Nader.
My wife and I subscribed to his newsletter for many years. Canceled it late that year. Big stack of them went into the recycling bin a long time ago.
Yep, we #FeelTheBern. A true populist campaign! @berniesanders #Election2016
https://twitter.com/HightowerNews/status/621729910067974145
This is hardly unexpected. And the current 'super-rallies' will not have the disastrous effect they did 15 years ago. Negligible effect, in fact.
On Edit: For the record, I do not expect Senator Sanders to run 3rd party once he loses the nomination.
On Edit 2: This is a shot of a Nader 'super-rally' in 2000. Looks familiar:
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freshwest
(53,661 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)Here's a link to the Hightower Lowdown - I used to subscribe to the print copy - it was pretty funny & informative.
http://www.hightowerlowdown.org/
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Seriously, any activism for someone running for the democratic nomination should sort of be a welcome thing.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Aren't the HC supporters always telling us how important money is?
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I've never met him personally, but someone who knows him well who I trust has a lot of good things to say about him.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Sad thing, indeed.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)There is a big difference between them.
Sanders supports single payer healthcare. But he voted for the ACA because he knew 16,000,000 more people getting healthcare that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise is better than the number 0. He ignored the whiners on the far left who called the ACA a "betrayal"
Ralph Nader helped give us George Bush as President. He said there was no difference between Gore and Bush.
That is the difference between Bernie and Ralph.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)He lost all credibility that year.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Quick, let's use him to tar Sanders!
rsexaminer
(321 posts)I don't get why people are comparing Nadar, a 3rd party, to Sanders who is running for the Democratic nomination.
frylock
(34,825 posts)William769
(55,148 posts)cyberswede
(26,117 posts)I presume lots of people support different candidates in different elections.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Voting for a Democrat. Explain how that's a problem.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)... the difference between Democrats and Republicans.
That is one of the reasons Bush got elected.
If Bernie doesn't get the nomination these people won't vote. Because these people don't think there is a difference between Hillary Clinton and Scott Walker and we might get a Republican president again because of it.
There is a big difference between Bernie and the people who say the love him on the interest.
Bernie is a smart pragmatic politician.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)That nominating Sanders would be a mistake because green party people who otherwise wouldn't be voting might vote for him?
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Sanders can't win a General election.
Two far left wing purists will not vote if they don't get get there way. They will certainly sit out if Bernie doesn't win.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)My god! How awful!!
iandhr
(6,852 posts)... and he does to America what he did to Wisconsin then yes.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)So there would be no change in the result.
Seriously, you're going to have to spend more than a minute thinking about your attack before unleashing it. Have the decency to make sure it's at least internally consistent before posting.
London Lover Man
(371 posts)Like I've said a few times - Bernie attracts everyone from ALL spectrums... It is not surprising that he is getting support from the Greens.
I recommend that they abandon Dr. Stein and focus on unifying all left spectrum to elect Bernie.
ismnotwasm
(42,022 posts)Interesting. Very.
frylock
(34,825 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)And what's that smell?
progressoid
(50,007 posts)And it sure smells like feces when stirred.
progressoid
(50,007 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)dsc
(52,172 posts)and respect Hightower. I have no idea if he did rallies for Nader in swing states or just states like Texas. In any case, I know Sanders knows better than to run outside of the primaries and I think Hightower does as well.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Thanks!
I think this is great news. Love Hightower!
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Stupid.
progressoid
(50,007 posts)sheshe2
(83,984 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)SunSeeker
(51,771 posts)Sad. I wish he had spent more time stumping for Wendy Davis in Texas.
Well, I am pretty sure Bernie won't run third party. He is no Nader. So Jim will not be able to repeat his Nader mistake.