2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOne question I'd like to see all Dem candidates answer:
Hillary, Bernie, O'Malley have all rolled out strong progressive platforms. If any of them gets all or even half of what they are proposing through congress, it will be great.
But we all know what the GOP is like in congress. From day one they will make it their mission to make sure nothing good gets accomplished. And it's highly likely that they keep the house at least. Which means a lot of gridlock.
I'd like to hear candidates give realistic answers as to how they plan to fight against the GOP while in office, in order to get things accomplished despite all the obstructionism. Because the limiting factor for any of these three is not what they want to get done. It's what they will actually be able to get done.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)It's politician-speak. Nothing more.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)No plan.
That's a letter about the TPP which has the primary purpose of skimming contact information to solicit donations.
Oh, and also so you can be connected to a Congressperson's office so that you can, ironically, negotiate with them.
No plan.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)As with many things Bernie, it sounds great but strikes me as a tad unrealistic. On the other hand, if he does manage to win the GE, he will necessarily have brought about a pretty massive change in the political outlook and engagement of the electorate, which could in turn change the Washington obstruction game as well.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)and it is consistent with the strategy that the Clinton's have always used.
ieoeja
(9,748 posts)http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rupert-murdoch-loves-hillary-clinton/
If she is willing to compromise away women's rights on health, I can't imagine her putting up much of a fight for anything else.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Common ground.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Are you going to increase the funds of corporate lobbyists, of the GOP and the other political obstructionists to a cleaner, safer, saner world or lessen it?
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)"ANNAPOLIS, Md. As the Maryland Senate debated a crackdown on guns last week, one Republican after another objected that amendments were being smothered by the Democratic majority in its haste to send Gov. Martin OMalley the bill he wanted.
But the opponents had no chance, as allies of the governor passed sweeping gun restrictions, the final victory in a series of triumphs that capped one of the most successful 2013 legislative seasons of any governor in the country.
Besides gun control legislation, Mr. OMalley coaxed a liberal wish list from the General Assembly session that ended Monday: repeal of the death penalty, a $1.7 billion subsidy for offshore wind turbines and a bump in the gasoline tax to pay for mass transit and roads.
Republicans fumed that Mr. OMalley had steered well to the left of Maryland residents concerns, and denounced his agenda as a punch list for a 2016 Democratic presidential primary campaign. Mr. OMalley largely unknown outside Maryland, though he is mentioned in presidential speculations alongside Govs. Andrew M. Cuomo of New York and John W. Hickenlooper of Colorado said the bills were smart policy and in step with state residents."
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/10/us/omalley-steers-maryland-to-the-left.html?_r=0
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)What would you do about it if you were president?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Maybe it is like the FLATUS. Nothing can be done. But if that's true, it doesn't matter so much all the policy details that candidates are for, because in the end it's just going to be inching forward against obstructionism no matter who is in the white house.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Personally I prefer a candidate who will fight even if the fight seems futile.