2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"I sometimes think I didn't leave the Republican party" Hillary wrote "as much as it left me"
Since we're playing with the way back machine and Bernies writings from the sixties, let's have a taste of Hillary....
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17388372/ns/politics-decision_08/t/reading-hillary-rodhams-hidden-thesis/#.VaUXOWK9KSM
On edit - the purpose here is to show how silly it is to drag out stuff like this from 46 years ago. People grow and change.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)How long has Bernie been one?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)People grow. However, here's another snippet for you:
He began to brainstorm what such an ad might look like:
"You have to make it relevant to world events today.
"Maybe you look at the contrast. What year did Hillary write this paper? 1969.
"And where was John McCain in 1969? A POW in Vietnam."
DanTex
(20,709 posts)under the bus too.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)People grow, people change.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)^T^H^I^R^D ^W^A^Y
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)party was too conservative? Is that a bad thing?
peacebird
(14,195 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)writing at comparative ages. Here's Hillary's commencement speech in 1969:
http://www.sojust.net/speeches/hillaryclinton_commencement.html
Darb
(2,807 posts)to Bernie's ejaculation/cancer/flouride stuff?
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)What she is saying that if you have to dig almost fifty years past a candidates wonderful record in order to find something controversial then maybe you aren't as concerned with who they are today and what they stand for today.
peacebird
(14,195 posts)wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)They have nothing they can really confront him with in terms of policy.
Sorry, but his record and the legislation he has supported is pretty solid.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)And on... and on... and on...
'Progressives' are masters at digging things up.
In 2003 Josh Marshall of Talkingpoint memo wrote this about Dean supporters. It applies perfectly to Sanders supporter:
There is an awfully distressing tendency among a minority of Dean supporters to serve up no end of lacerating comments about other candidates and then to react with a sort of stunned and outraged shock when anyone criticizes their guy.
If you don't like it in regards to your candidate, perhaps you should ask others in your camp to tone it down themselves?
By the way, if you think Sanders is going to escape the primary season without a lot of scrapes and bruises, you're wrong. There's oppo research a-plenty on him. No one is taking him serious enough yet to reveal it.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)Your opposition research doesn't seem to be able to put up anything that isn't 40 years old so far.
And the Goldwater girl thing was sort of a contrast to Bernies time in the civil rights movement. You know, we brought that up because of the humongous stink that your people made about the monochromatic optics of his campaign announcement.
wyldwolf
(43,870 posts)MY opposition research, lol.
Um, yeah. Opposition research is coming. Have fun with it. I know I will.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)You could just choose a candidate based on policies and the issues today?
Wouldn't that be a better choice than trying to go through all this nonsense?
I don't care what dirt is dug up by your candidate or the republican party. I am basing my support on the candidate that has been a lot more consistent on almost every issue I care about. I am sorry you just don't see it that way.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I give her a pass for having been a goldwater girl; it's common for young people to start out with their parents' ideology and then break away from that as they move into a more independent adult life. People grow and change.
It's fascinating to look at the way she has shifted and evolved over the years. Unlike those earliest "coming of age" shifts, she seems to shift her stances, or pretend to shift them, in a continuous process triangulation.