2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum8 Key Ways Bernie Sanders' Voting Record Differs From Hillary Clinton's
ISIS
As far as U.S. involvement in ISIS is concerned, Sanders has said that the fight should be undertaken by neighboring nations such as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar, according to CNN.
Clinton said, according to The Atlantic:
The failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad there were Islamists, there were secularists, there was everything in the middle the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.
Capital Punishment
Capital punishment is a controversial issue that has divided parties. Clinton is an advocate of the death penalty with restrictions, according to The San Francisco Chronicle.
In 1994, Sanders voted to replace the death penalty with life in imprisonment, according to the House of Representatives.
Flag Burning
In 2005, Clinton co-sponsored a bill that would criminalize burning the American flag, according to The New York Times.
In 2003, Sanders voted against a bill that would prohibit desecration to the flag.
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RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)LeFleur1
(1,197 posts)Death. Sometimes the death penalty might be called for. For example. A man who shot six people on Christmas Eve, two of them children that he shot in the head, ages six and three. The three year old was looking at him, asking him a question. So Hillary's death penalty with restrictions probably makes sense to a lot of voters, rather than a rigid, life in prison mantra. Room for circumstance.
ISIS: Hillary's reasoned opinion is formed from being over there and dealing with the countries involved. She may know that those countries named, while they SHOULD join together to fight ISIS, they probably won't because some of them agree with ISIS. I don't see this opinion as a bad one, but rather one based on circumstances. I, personally, do not favor ground troops in the Middle East.
Flag: Many people in the US don't think people should be allowed to burn the flag. Many think it's okay under some circumstances. Two different outlooks. Both reasonable at times.
TTP: Being from a state where 40% of jobs depend on trade, not having a trade policy is a very bad thing for our citizens. Yet, we certainly would want the best ever agreement and know what happens if there is not an agreement that protects all citizens. Since we don't really know what is in this agreement it's hard to have a rigid opinion on it when it affects so many people.
Gun Control: Strong gun control is the only thing that will work in a way that might keep people from being shot. Those hunters and recreational shooters? They have been known to turn their guns on people instead of helpless animals. Strong gun control is the answer. It wouldn't be a bad thing if it involved a mental test.
Banks. They certainly should be run by rules that protect people. Just because the author of an article doesn't think Hillary would support that does not in any way mean she wouldn't. Remember, opinions are not facts.
SS. Removing the cap would help, and probably save SS. Thinking about the options should not be a negative.
As Hillary has said. The President of the United States is President of ALL the people. That's something the Teaparty has forgotten or never knew. I hope Progressives have not joined that rigid way of viewing the options before us. I think Bernie is a good man. Although Personally, I think Hillary would be the best choice at this time, I'd vote for Bernie with no qualms if he became the candidate. I believe he thinks things through, as does Hillary, despite things said about both of them.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)has done to that country, we should be ashamed.
Bernie does not want this country to be an Empire.
The people Hillary associates with are fine with Empires.
Empires are always at war.
'We are an Empire now' who was it who said that?
The people have to decide whether they want to live in a democracy or an Empire.
In the end it's up to them, until there is a point and we're getting there, where what the people want doesn't matter any more.