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Correct Link Walker/Barrett Debate (Original Post) otohara May 2012 OP
Let's make this the official comments site! rocktivity May 2012 #1
Walker is a slick mofo. n/t Peregrine Took May 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama May 2012 #2
I Posted The 2010 Debate otohara May 2012 #3
Okay, so the link in the OP now is the live one for tonight right? :) n/t Tx4obama May 2012 #4
Yep otohara May 2012 #6
PRELIMIARY ROUND: rocktivity May 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity May 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity May 2012 #8
ROUND TWO: Why we here? rocktivity May 2012 #9
Barrett Sites Gulianni otohara May 2012 #10
Why???? n/t Peregrine Took May 2012 #12
As Someone Who Compromised otohara May 2012 #17
ROUND THREE: COLLECTIVE BARGAINING rocktivity May 2012 #11
ROUND FOUR: JOB NUMBERS rocktivity May 2012 #14
ROUND EIGHT: MINING/ENVIRONMENT rocktivity May 2012 #19
ROUND FIVE: Tax increases rocktivity May 2012 #15
ROUND SIX: Out of state contributions rocktivity May 2012 #16
ROUND SEVEN: John Doe Scandal rocktivity May 2012 #18
ROUND NINE: SAME-SEX MARRIAGE rocktivity May 2012 #20
ROUND TEN: EDUCATION rocktivity May 2012 #21
I see why you guys are stuck with this guy Walker Thrill May 2012 #22
ROUND ELEVEN: HEALTHCARE rocktivity May 2012 #23
ROUND TWELVE: UNITY rocktivity May 2012 #24
I didn't get to watch the whole thing. Who do you all think won? southernyankeebelle May 2012 #25
No doubt Barret won. n/t hrmjustin May 2012 #26
FINAL ROUND rocktivity May 2012 #27
And DAH WINNAH...by a margin of six points, two walkovers, and two knockdowns... rocktivity May 2012 #28
Thanks. Excellent analysis! mvd May 2012 #29
I watched some of it bluedeminredstate May 2012 #30
Thank you for all the 'updates' :) n/t Tx4obama May 2012 #31

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
1. Let's make this the official comments site!
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:01 PM
May 2012

I hope Barrett goes over well -- it could make all the difference.

Watch on CSPAN on TV if you can -- leave the link for those who HAVE to use it!


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rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
5. PRELIMIARY ROUND:
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:08 PM
May 2012

This isn't meant to be a "do-over"...not a political civil war..." very nice.

I give this round to BARRETT.


rocktivity

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rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
9. ROUND TWO: Why we here?
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:13 PM
May 2012

Barrett: Slams Walkers national ambitious, started political civil war. I really like his demeanor. If he keeps it together, he'll be fine.

Walker: GOP repub talking point blather about reforms...savings...people want to move

I give this found to BARRETT:


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rocktivity

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11. ROUND THREE: COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:15 PM
May 2012

Walker: Bus driver making 150K Big savings,

Barrett: You started with divide and conquer to get the workers...Walker admits it's only first step

I give this round to BARRETT.


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rocktivity

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14. ROUND FOUR: JOB NUMBERS
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:19 PM
May 2012

Barrett: Based on Walker's numbers, WI has lost more jobs than any state, changed how the job loss is counted. Numbers have never been verified.

Walker: Our reforms are working, based on 3.5 per cent of employers. Required to be submitted by law, but that doesn't equal verification. Ragging on Milwaukee poorest city -- but Milwaukee is part of Wisconsin, isn't it?

I give this round to BARRETT.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
19. ROUND EIGHT: MINING/ENVIRONMENT
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:37 PM
May 2012

Walker: Private/Government partnership, could create jobs

Barrett: It's a actually venture capital bill. Walker not interested in working with people. He would have brought in all sides and asked o we need this mine? Can we make it work? Did not roll up his sleeves

EVEN.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
15. ROUND FIVE: Tax increases
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:23 PM
May 2012

Walker: Wants to keep taxes as they are, property taxes have gone down, tax incentives...

Barrett: Milwaukee unemployment went up even higher when Walker was Country Executive and approved budget. Homestead act is a tax increase that hits seniors on fixed income. Budget surplus, if it exists, by using credit card that future generations will have to pay for.

KNOCKDOWN BARRETT!

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
16. ROUND SIX: Out of state contributions
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:26 PM
May 2012

Barrett: 90 percent of his contributions within states. Walkers 60-70 per cent out of state. What makes you think they care? Ideological civil war. WI is to be the prototype for the Tea Party state.

Walker: Millions spent trying to knock out six Republicans, money from the Democrat Governors Association. He's trying to put power back into hands of the taxpayers.

KNOCKDOWN BARRETT!

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
18. ROUND SEVEN: John Doe Scandal
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:30 PM
May 2012

Walker: I earned the rank of eagle scout. My office asked for investigation

Barrett: only gove with criminal defense lawyer. Key aides have been charged; internal network, secret computer system. Sent email saying it was bad PR. Who is paying his legal bills?

Due to the eagle scout remark, Barrett in a walkover.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
20. ROUND NINE: SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:40 PM
May 2012

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BARRETT: Believes in marriage equality as a civil right. switches to Lilly Ledbetter law. Walker repealed it.

WALKER: Constitution defines marriage as heterosexual.

BARRETT in a walkover.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
21. ROUND TEN: EDUCATION
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:43 PM
May 2012

Walker: Talking about schools buying health insurance? Merit should drive hiring.

Barrett: Walker took 1.6 billion from k-12, tech school took 30% cut. Wants kids to leave college without buckets of debt. Walker tried to pit state colleges against each other, which would have driven up tuition. Shouldn't be fishing for out of state students.

I give this round to BARRETT.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
22. I see why you guys are stuck with this guy Walker
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:47 PM
May 2012

He's the worst kind of Republican. Full of shit but knows how to hide it.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
23. ROUND ELEVEN: HEALTHCARE
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:47 PM
May 2012

Barrett: Mothers shouldn't have to go emergency rooms if they don't a primary care physicians. Continue to invest in Badger Care, Walker tried to abolish Badger Care for seniors.

Walker: Invested more in Medicare than any gov in WI history...Barrett has talking points but no plan.

I give his round to WALKER.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
24. ROUND TWELVE: UNITY
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:50 PM
May 2012

Walker: Once we're past June 5, we can move forward. People don't know what we've accomplished because it working.

Barrett: Establish trust. Don't lie about job numbers, budget cuts. I reached out to people who are my political enemies. Punishing political enemies is not the way to make progress.

I give this round to BARRETT.

rocktivity

(44,555 posts)
27. FINAL ROUND
Fri May 25, 2012, 09:59 PM
May 2012

Walker: I took on the powerful interests!
Barrett: He didn't answer question about money raised out of state.

Barrett: I have the courage to say no to my friends. I will be rock solid, not a rock star...I will work on job creation...I will take on all powerful interests...

Walker: He got a Democrat's vote because he took on powerful interest. Moms and dad...farms and factories...clothes on the back on iour kids...Let's move forward... yawn...

I give this round to BARRETT.





rocktivity

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28. And DAH WINNAH...by a margin of six points, two walkovers, and two knockdowns...
Fri May 25, 2012, 10:03 PM
May 2012

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bluedeminredstate

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30. I watched some of it
Fri May 25, 2012, 11:17 PM
May 2012

and I agree that Barrett did well, but Walker is such a slick, accomplished liar that I can see how he has a lot of people voting for him. By people, I mean GOPers.

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