Democrats Have No Other Choice But Hillary

[DonViejo]

“They shrug off questions about Hillary Clinton’s email habits. They roll with the attacks on her family’s foundation, the big checks from foreign governments, the torpid response of her not-yet-campaign,” the New York Times reports.

“They have little choice: As Mrs. Clinton prepares to begin her second presidential campaign amid a froth of criticism and outrage, Democrats are not just Ready for Hillary — as supporters named one pro-Clinton super PAC — they are desperate for her.”

Dan Balz: “For many months, Democrats have claimed they want an open competition for their party’s 2016 presidential nomination, although many didn’t really believe it. They were actually content to see Hillary Rodham Clinton run virtually unopposed. This week, some of them must be rethinking.”

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[leftofcool]

1. Well, 86% of Democrats support her but we need a primary

That will keep everybody happy.

[brooklynite]

2. Primaries aren't cast like reality TV...

The Party doesn't GIVE you candidates; the candidates have to want to run, and most can see how popular Clinton is likely to be and plan to skip 2016. If they thought she was vulnerable, they'd jump onboard in a second.

[tridim]

3. Propaganda alert... Hillary is inevitable, again!

Saw the same movie 8 years ago.

[Chan790]

20. The only thing inevitable...

is that I will never cast a ballot for Hillary Clinton.

[BlueDemKev]

36. Really?

Even if her opponent is Ted Cruz in the general election? If you need any evidence that there is a difference between Hillary Clinton and ANY Republican president, take ONE look at the SUPREME COURT.

[Chan790]

37. When I lived in NYC...

the only race I did not vote in was for the Senate...because she was the nominee. I will never cast a vote for Hillary Clinton because I consider her the most vile and repugnant type of Republican...a Republican running as a Democrat.

Does that answer the question?

Hillary? [font color="red"]Never!![/font]

[daleanime]

4. No.....

[Eleanors38]

5. The Democratic Party is a 3rd party in a 2-party system...

Among the consequences are the party is constantly (and easily) bullied and pushed around for sport. And there is little or no response let alone defence to these actions.

Frankly, how would anyone respond in defence of Hillary?

Hillary is the "presumptive nominee" because the Party is in the hands of corporate power; any alternative elements ("base," left, progressives & and other MSM conjuring's) are shut out remnants which are perfectly neutralized by the RW to yield the state of affairs we have now.

[SheilaT]

6. Here's one Democrat who thinks

there are other choices besides Hillary. Anyway, wasn't she the only possible nominee in 2008? Did I miss something that she's not currently completing her second term?

[Thor_MN]

8. Not by a long shot. There were 8.

I shook the hand of John Edwards the night before he quit. Shook Al Franken's hand the same year, but he managed to evade my handshake of doom, but it was a close call.

[SheilaT]

10. Yeah, there were others in the primaries,

but there was a pretty constant drumbeat about Hillary's The One! especially here on DU. Which is why I'm extremely bothered by the insistence that This Year She Really IS The One! We Democrats don't generally anoint someone just because someone thinks it's their turn. If she gets the nomination without a genuine primary challenge, it won't bode well, for her or for the Democratic Party.

Elizabeth Warren keeps on saying things that are genuinely progressive, and keeps on pushing for things like jailing some of the bankers who screwed up so royally a few years ago. Bernie Sanders, an avowed Socialist, is even more that way. Both of them are actually saying the things the majority of Americans actually believe. Unfortunately, a lot of people have been bamboozled into thinking that they're more conservative than they really are, that this country is politically center right, which it's not, and that allowing the rich to get as massively rich as they want will somehow benefit us all, which it won't.

Hillary Clinton has only won one election so far in her life. While a Senator, she supported lots of things I oppose, such as the Iraq War, the change in bankruptcy laws, and other not very progressive things. I don't see a lot of evidence that she has come over to more progressive beliefs, and that worries me a lot.

[davidpdx]

15. Not that I'm a fan of Hillary Clinton

But she ran in 2000 and then ran for reelection in 2006 and won.

[SheilaT]

16. I'd managed to forget about her re-election. Thank you for setting me straight on this.

But neither of those elections was a clear indication of her ability to run a national campaign and win.

Here's another problem the Hillary supporters just don't get: There is simply not a huge yearning out there for a woman President. Yes, there is some such yearning, but it's not as widespread as they think. More importantly, there are a lot of people out there who won't vote for her specifically because she's a woman. Fundamentalist Christians, for example. Lots of men in general, in either party. Her supporters should NOT confuse this with what they call Hillary haters, people like me who simply don't think she's the best possible candidate. What they need to understand is that not only is there still a huge amount of anti-woman bias out there, but Hillary Clinton herself is a very polarizing figure. Even those of us who might otherwise be happy to support her are very disturbed about a lot of things she's said or done.

I am, as you can tell from my name, a woman. I'm 66 years old, and I do think we'll have a woman President well within my lifetime. But Hillary Clinton is not the only woman who could conceivable becoming President within the next 50 years. In 2006 almost no one thought we'd see an African American President any time soon, and look what's happened.

[blkmusclmachine]

7. That's why we're both thinking about going Independent.

[NYC_SKP]

17. If she's on the ticket there is no doubt.

No vote or someone else.

If she becomes president we will lose even more seats in congress.

No to HRC.

[Thinkingabout]

9. Let's see how many pushes another candidate and provides information as to why their candidate is

Qualified and their stand on the issues, what their agenda would be if elected. I continue to read post looking for this information.

[Chan790]

21. I don't need it...

I already know those things about Hillary and that's why she will never get my vote.

[Thinkingabout]

22. Do you have a better candidate or is this RW chatter?

[Chan790]

23. Any real Democrat is a better candidate.

I'm proud of saying it...I consider Hillary to be a stealth Republican and her supporters to be quislings. I'd like to drive the whole lot of them out of Democratic party so we can get back to running on progressive causes rather than the cult of personality of hawkish right-wing Clintonian scum.

It's extreme-leftist chatter...also known as defending the traditional values of the Democratic party from traitors bought by Wall St. and their adoring sycophants.

[Thinkingabout]

25. Are you a registered Democrat?

If you think there are other Democrats with the potential to be president put son time and effort into promoting them. Continuing to trash Hillary falls short of anything but trashing.

[Chan790]

26. Yes, I am.

Stop trashing Hillary? No. Everybody needs a hobby.

[Thinkingabout]

31. Trash GOP candidates, Jeb and Scotty needs your hobby, the GOP doesn't need help.

[Chan790]

33. Driving out the Clintons and Clintonites is priority #1 to me.

It's not about the GOP needing help...it's about saving the Democratic party from center-right infiltrators and quislings....DLC, Clintonites, 3rd Way, "New Democrats". We must act deliberately to excise these cancers from the Democratic party. Immediately and forever.

To be clear...Hillary Rodham Clinton is the enemy to me. As much as Jeb or Scotty. None of them will ever have my vote or support.

Perhaps Hillary should do the right thing and go back to the GOP.

[Thinkingabout]

35. Well, nothing you have thrown so far negates Hillary's ability to handle the job of president.

Furthermore it is my desire to save the DNC from the demise of teabaggers has brought to the GOP.

[tracks29]

29. Bernie is very clear about his agenda and is qualified

but I won't waste my time posting about it. You'll just say "unelectable."

[John Poet]

11. Democrats will decide

whether they do or don't have any choice but Hillary,
starting nine months from now.

[musiclawyer]

12. That's just media BS

There is a choice and the voters will decide. Name recognition is all she has. In a real primary she can stumble. It's happened before. No one here has a crystal ball. But the voters who make a difference between winning and losing want a progressive. Unless she sincerely and legitimately goes hard left, which is unlikely, anything can happen ....

[marshall]

13. What about a Hillary/Chelsea ticket?

Chelsea made a statement within the last week that alludes to the fact that she isn't ruling out the possibility of running for elected office. In fact her statement is a lot more definite than anything her mother has said recently. And she is 35 years old now so is eligible to be a candidate.

[Calista241]

14. Chelsea has had everything else handed to her, so why not? n/t

[namastea42]

18. You made me spit my sandwich out laughing.

[NYC_SKP]

19. Well that will certainly seal the deal for the hedge fund manager bloc of voters.

And other richies.

[Chan790]

24. If there were a superlative form of "never" I'd use it to describe the chances...

of me voting for a Hillary/Chelsea ticket.

I will never vote for Hillary.
I will probably never vote for Chelsea.

I will double-certainly totally completely forever never vote for a Hillary/Chelsea ticket.

[leveymg]

27. Just Say No to the creeping inevitable meatballs. Draft Michelle.

This "choice" can not be the future of American democracy:

[Android3.14]

28. Then we have no choice but to lose

It is amazing to me that people think she can win, or that if she does win, she will somehow represent the people who voted for her rather than the people who paid for her.

[PoliticAverse]

30. I don't buy the argument that the republican field is so bad yet there is only one Democrat

that could win against them.

[awake]

32. What about Joe Biden?

He is the VP and while he is not a woman he has done a lot for women, minorities and the working class over many years of service.

[Chan790]

34. Therein is an irony.

Joe Biden has done more for women over his career than Sec. Clinton has ever thought of doing...and would be a better candidate for women's issues today because Hillary is running for Wall St. and Joe is for Main St.

Economic issues are women's issues. Women's paychecks and labor put food on tables and roofs over heads, women work the majority of low-income jobs, women head more single-paycheck households then men...and Hillary wants to sell them down the river to get that sweet sweet campaign-cash from the robber-barons on Wall St.

This is who Joe cares about:


This is who Hillary cares about: