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applegrove

(118,889 posts)
Wed May 23, 2012, 09:32 PM May 2012

"The New, Nasty Obama Campaign" by Molly Ball at the Atlantic

The New, Nasty Obama Campaign

by Molly Ball at the Atlantic

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/the-new-nasty-obama-campaign/257535/

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Many a requiem has been written for "that hopey-changey thing," as Sarah Palin so memorably dubbed it. And to be sure, much of the griping about the president's harsh tone is the disingenuous phony outrage of Republicans who would prefer not to be its targets. But as Obama embarks in earnest on his second presidential campaign, deliberately invoking the echoes of 2008 as he does so, the contrast with his old image is especially stark.

From the beginning, the president's reelection campaign has taken a brutal, no-holds-barred approach that's sharply at odds with the conciliatory image that was the central predicate of Obama's entire pre-presidential political career. Whether or not the specific issue of Bain Capital ought to be off limits -- Booker has taken pains to clarify he doesn't think it should be -- there's no denying that Obama's 2012 campaign has seized every opportunity to turn the campaign toward sharply personal attacks of a type that the 2008-vintage Obama would surely have recoiled from. From Romney's treatment of his onetime pet dog to his high-school pranks to his income-tax rate, from the "war on women" to the "war on caterpillars," from "I like being able to fire people" to "I'm not concerned about the very poor," no potential controversy has been too petty, too rhetorically overblown or too out-of-context to be exploited to the hilt.

None of this is shocking -- it's how the game is played. But Obama once ostentatiously refused to play it. In June 2007, for example, when Obama's primary campaign distributed a memo titled "Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)" detailing Clinton's connections to India, Obama publicly upbraided his staff, calling it "a dumb mistake" and "unnecessarily caustic." As the New York Times put it at the time, "The memo...raised quesitons about Obama's claims that he is above attack politics, which are epitomized by secretly distributing opposition research about a rival."

These days, the Obama campaign distributes harshly critical research memos as a matter of course. And the idea that it might be any other way is viewed as pollyannaish handwringing, or worse, doing the other side's bidding.

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"The New, Nasty Obama Campaign" by Molly Ball at the Atlantic (Original Post) applegrove May 2012 OP
Necessary when dealing with sociopaths - so glad the prez gets that now! polichick May 2012 #1
Yes. we're done with all that conciliatory crap. tosh May 2012 #2
Good. He's finally stopped bringing a butter knife to a gunfight. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #3
I want Obama to fight for us n/t roseBudd May 2012 #4
Nasty Obama Campaign? SoutherDem May 2012 #5
Nastier the better. ProfessionalLeftist May 2012 #6
Calling Rmoney's high school hate crimes "pranks" beac May 2012 #7
The point? Trying to make Obama look bad for fighting back emulatorloo May 2012 #8
Come to think of it Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #10
Don't get me wrong... I think her "point" was ridiculous, but as the article seemed beac May 2012 #16
call her a whambulance. Historic NY May 2012 #9
Bullies always squeal (loudly) Proud Liberal Dem May 2012 #11
The Atlantic was purchased by rightwingers a few years back, just so struggle4progress May 2012 #12
I did not know that. applegrove May 2012 #13
The president tried reaching out to the right, but they have no interest in reaching out to him. boxman15 May 2012 #14
This is why Bush won in '88... Drunken Irishman May 2012 #15

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
5. Nasty Obama Campaign?
Wed May 23, 2012, 10:14 PM
May 2012

The Republicans wrote the book on Nasty Campaigns, it was a Republican majority SCOTUS which allowed super pacs who's only purpose is to collect money and smear the opponent.

It has been Romney who spoke about his accomplishment at Bain so much I thought he had a hyphenated last name, Bain-Romney.

Just, why is it because those accomplishments are being questioned it becomes a nasty politics?

So, let me see if I understand, nothing Romney says can be challenged or it is nasty politics, right?

Yet, through out the primaries with the help of his super pac Romney utterly destroyed each opponent as they emerged.

So, if I understand, Romney get to challenge anything said by his challenger, right?

Am I missing something?

Well as far as I am concerned Obama should run the nastiest campaign in history, if those are the rules. And, it would still be clean compared to any Republican campaign I can remember.

beac

(9,992 posts)
7. Calling Rmoney's high school hate crimes "pranks"
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:35 PM
May 2012

undermines whatever point the author was trying to make in that rambling article.

emulatorloo

(44,268 posts)
8. The point? Trying to make Obama look bad for fighting back
Wed May 23, 2012, 11:59 PM
May 2012

Against a lying bully who wants to strip the country of its assets so the rich can get richer.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,452 posts)
10. Come to think of it
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:05 AM
May 2012

"vulture capitalism" has pretty much been the entire Republican economic policy of the last 30+ years through the *clever* guise of "privatization". The buzzards are still hard at work trying to wrest control of the last major government programs still in existence (i.e. Medicare, Social Security) so that they can turn them over to their 1% buddies to help further line their pockets.

beac

(9,992 posts)
16. Don't get me wrong... I think her "point" was ridiculous, but as the article seemed
Thu May 24, 2012, 08:33 AM
May 2012

aimed at Obama supporters, the "pranks" thing was extra galling.

I found the whole article absurd, but that one thing especially stood out to me.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,452 posts)
11. Bullies always squeal (loudly)
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:07 AM
May 2012

when their victim(s) fight back. Republicans and their "very serious" friends in the corporate media are no different. *ugh*

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
12. The Atlantic was purchased by rightwingers a few years back, just so
Thu May 24, 2012, 12:34 AM
May 2012

unsuspecting people on our side of the aisle would post their BS

boxman15

(1,033 posts)
14. The president tried reaching out to the right, but they have no interest in reaching out to him.
Thu May 24, 2012, 01:03 AM
May 2012

I'm glad he's stopped with the "Why can't we be friends?" rhetoric and is now going after them and putting them in their place. The GOP puts party before country every fucking time, and it's great that the president is calling them out for it.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
15. This is why Bush won in '88...
Thu May 24, 2012, 01:54 AM
May 2012

Dukakis didn't fight back. He wanted to go 'above it all' and it bit him in the ass. Had he fought back in late spring, Bush never overcomes that 20-point deficit and he wins.

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