2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWalker on track to retain seat
Maybe he could be indicted if the recall fails?
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/11477-focus-scott-walker-for-president
ight now, if nothing else changes, it looks very much like Scott Walker, the goggle-eyed homunculus hired by Koch Industries to manage their midwest subsidiary formerly known as the state of Wisconsin, is going to keep his job. If that's the case, and assuming he doesn't go down in the ongoing John Doe investigation in Milwaukee, I predict that he will have an "exploratory committee" set up in Iowa within the month, and he will suddenly discover a deeply held desire to spend a lot of time in places like Nashua and Manchester. Make no mistake: If he hangs on, he will be the biggest star in the Republican party. Chris Christie yells at all the right people, but has he ever faced down the existential threat that schoolteachers and snowplow drivers brought to bear on Walker? Marco Rubio? Has he withstood the wrath of organized janitors and professors of the humanities? If Walker wins in June, it wouldn't take very much effort at all for Fox News and for the vast universe of conservative sugar-daddies and their organization to decide that Walker should be the odds-on choice for 2016.
Dear Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: That heinous future actually could happen if you don't get out of the Green Room and get the DNC off the stick here. I'm still not kidding. If the Democrats blow this one, and if it's proven that the DNC could have helped in any way and didn't, you should be fired before the sun goes down. In 1990, the DNC declined to help fully a congressional candidate named David Worley in Georgia. The Worley people were begging for money, for organizers, for a lifeline of any kind. Very little was forthcoming. Worley lost to Newt Gingrich by 978 votes. How would the subsequent 10 years have been different if Gingrich's political career had ended ignominiously in 1990? That's the kind of chance that you seem to be allowing to go a'glimmering in Wisconsin. Let Walker win, and Democrats not yet born will curse your nam
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)That's crazy!
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)In some quarters, that's considered the same thing as not lifting a finger.
whathehell
(29,100 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)Sometimes the DNC makes mistakes, and this is one.
whathehell
(29,100 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)to go full speed forward with whatever dystopia they have planned for the future for America.
gateley
(62,683 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Take it elsewhere.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,246 posts)but did you happen to see the poll of WI union households? I mean, if union families, of all the families in WI, don't know Scott Walker by now, and intend to vote for him, how much money should the DNC throw at this thing?
mvd
(65,180 posts)Walker will take it as a stupid mandate if he wins.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The DNC is out of touch with the real grass-roots Democrats.
They are a top-down organization. The DNC cares about the big money that is easy to locate.
The DNC and Obama will pay in November for their failure to support Wisconsin's working people now.
The DNC begs us for our money but gives us no say in return. That's not the way to win in politics. You need money AND votes, not just money.
brooklynite
(94,852 posts)...with, you know, a Presidential Election, Billionaire Super-PAC's, Senate Races, House Races...
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The DNC is supported to a great extent by unions. And the Wisconsin contest is about preserving the right to have strong unions.
There probably isn't any more important race this year for Democrats. Obama's campaign and election chances will rise and fall as the economy fluctuates. Obama has a great advantage because he is very well liked as a person.
But if we allow unions to be weakened any more, the Democratic Party would be deeply, deeply damaged for a long time.
So the DNC needs to think through its priorities more carefully.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)The WI unions and WI Dems have been organizing this for months on end. There is also an independent organization called United Wisconsin and in the last recall round last summer one called We Are Wisconsin.
The recall effort has 35,000 local volunteers. The Democratic Governors Association is helping with money and organizing. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is helping. Obama for America is helping. And the DNC is helping too. Wasserman-Schultz is there this weekend for fundraisers. Other organizations like Bold Progressives, MoveOn, and Rebuild the Dream are also helping.
The huge challenge, of course, is that the RePUKES have MULTIMILLIONS of corporate dollars that could never be matched, and, the fact is that their base, as well, is also highly motivated to retain this seat and they too are highly mobilized with all that money flooding the airwaves and paying for voter turnout.
If this recall fails, and think it has a good chance to WIN, it will not be because anyone failed to help the people and Dems of Wisconsin. It will be because the failing side was overwhelmed by corporate cash and because once again, in an election all about turnout, too many Dems did not vote and because too many Indies decided to stay with that horrid rotten bastard Walker.
In the end, it is the people of Wisconsin who will decide their own fate. They know the facts. They know what is at stake. They know what a horrid rotten good for nothing corporate toadie this rotten corrupt bastard Walker is. If enough Wisconsinites choose to keep the bastard, more shame on them and THEY deserve what THEY get and it will be THEM to blame and no one else.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Even here in Western Nebraska I hear enough about Walker that make me sick. Why anyone in WI would keep him in office is beyond me.
savalez
(3,517 posts)In my opinion the blame DNC plan is a bullshit RW meme that serves two purpose:
1) Demoralizes weak-minded WI voters so they will skip the recall vote
2) If the recall fails it will demoralize week-minded WI voters so they will skip the general election
I saw this in another post:
"The DNC and Obama will pay in November for their failure to support Wisconsin's working people now."
Ha! It's working.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)win. It will come down to who gets out the vote. GOP have done their best to keep students from voting, so there are going to be challenges. I don't make any prediction as to who will win. I hope the people do and not the corporate interests.
Manufactured Consent
(10 posts)I call bull fucking shit on all the polls.
They can buy polls just as easily as they buy the corporate media, all of our politicians, and the elections themselves.
Hasn't anyone read Noam Chomsky?
The corporate media lies to create the reality they want, then they steal the election and no one suspects.
It must be so damn easy for them when Americans are so naive and clueless.
"What luck for the rulers that men don't think"