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sellitman

(11,610 posts)
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:09 AM Jun 2014

If Cantor can loose to someone further right...

Can Hillary be Primaried and lose to someone further left?

I don't know the answer but in light of yesterday's news is this possibility in play ?


Just for disclosure: If Hillary is our nominee of course I'll vote for her and work to make that happen

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If Cantor can loose to someone further right... (Original Post) sellitman Jun 2014 OP
It is a different dynamics. In addition, there very well could have been cross over votes with lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #1
Low turnout was the key sellitman Jun 2014 #3
That is not what I am hearing lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #6
Nit pick. Generally, "getting primaried" refers to incumbents..... yellowcanine Jun 2014 #2
What's wrong with Clinton/Cuomo 2016 ?!?! blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #4
Oh, are we not to bother with primaries this time? Seems like this is being pushed. Hard. djean111 Jun 2014 #5
Pass sellitman Jun 2014 #7
More important - we could not count NY's electoral votes karynnj Jun 2014 #9
I supoose so, if ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2014 #8
Extremely unlikely whatthehey Jun 2014 #10

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
1. It is a different dynamics. In addition, there very well could have been cross over votes with
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:11 AM
Jun 2014

Cantor's votes

sellitman

(11,610 posts)
3. Low turnout was the key
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jun 2014

We have a bigger history of that then the GOP unfortunately.

I seriously doubt Dems crossed over to vote for a Teabag. I've seen no evidence of this.

yellowcanine

(35,704 posts)
2. Nit pick. Generally, "getting primaried" refers to incumbents.....
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:16 AM
Jun 2014

Hillary not being an incumbent, it would seem this terminology does not refer to her situation. Could she lose the nomination to someone more liberal? Of course, though it does not appear that likely at the moment. But I don't see how Cantor's loss in a congressional seat Republican primary in 2014 is relevant to the 2016 Democratic Presidential Primary process. It appears to be a huge stretch.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
5. Oh, are we not to bother with primaries this time? Seems like this is being pushed. Hard.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:43 AM
Jun 2014

Not in so many words, of course, but any other possible candidate is immediately under-the-bus bound, and any criticism of Hillary's policy is immediately stomped on.

karynnj

(59,510 posts)
9. More important - we could not count NY's electoral votes
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:05 PM
Jun 2014

This SHOULD have been an issue with Bush, Cheney and Texas, but Cheney changed his registration to Wyoming when he joined the ticet.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. I supoose so, if ...
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jun 2014

we have national open primaries where republicans can game the primaries ... as I suspect happened in VA.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
10. Extremely unlikely
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 02:15 PM
Jun 2014

The Republican base (the real one - people who caucus, work in precincts, etc) is to the right of their elected body as a whole. An example would be Romney's inparty approval, where conservative Republicans approved of him at a 15% lower rate than moderate ones. Right now Hillary's approval is 14% HIGHER among those who call themselves very liberal than those who choose "somewhat liberal". In fact it's very liberal Democrats 91% approve, overall 83% and somewhat liberal 77%.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal-a/2014_06/democratic_challenges_to_hrc_s050638.php

Our base (again the real one, not 3rd party agitators who strangely pretend to be) is not to the left of Clinton or Obama, and could in truth be said to be slightly right of them. Despite DU's histrionics, and just as for Obama, the more liberal wing of the party approves of Clinton more than those nearer the center. If she has a vulnerability, it's to a folksy populist who can stake out a more centrist position on some key issues such as Schweitzer, although he lacks the fundraising appeal to get much traction.

We must keep in mind that DU is far from representative, or we would have seen a Kucinich nomination twice. There is a reason he got 2% or so, and it's not media conspiracies.

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