2016 Postmortem
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(and the war on women continues apace)
House Committee Advances Nationwide Abortion Ban
Yesterday, the House Judiciary Committee voted 20 to 12 along party lines to approve a bill that would ban abortion after 20 weeks nationwide. The bill now goes before the full House of Representatives, and could be brought up for debate as early as next week.
The bill, called the Pain Capable Child Protection Act, is sponsored by Trent Franks (R-AZ), and originally applied only to the District of Columbia. However, Franks decided to expand the bill nationwide following the murder conviction of Kermit Gosnell, a rogue doctor who performed illegal abortions in Pennsylvania. The bill does not include exceptions for rape, incest, or fetal abnormality, but does include an exception to save the life of the woman. Franks has introduced the bill in previous sessions of Congress, but it was defeated.
During the committee debate, sponsor Franks echoed other conservative lawmakers in their understanding of rape. Franks successfully dissuaded fellow lawmakers from amending the bill to include an exception from rape by arguing that "the incidence of rape resulting in pregnancy are very low." This shows striking similarity to Representative Todd Akin's remark last year, that "...from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare. If it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."
http://www.msmagazine.com/news/uswirestory.asp?ID=14400
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)is working as hard as ever to put this country back to work.
I suppose next week they'll vote for the 38th time to repeal the ACA.
Fucking assholes, they seem to be surprised that they are hated more than telemarketers and debt collectors. Can there be a more stupid bunch of people in a single room anywhere?
niyad
(113,700 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)babies every since the 70's when it became apparent that the white race would one day become a minority in these United States. White women have been the biggest benefactor's of affirmative action programs and white women took the bull by the horns and ran with it. With white women attending colleges at higher rates beginning in the 60s and entering the workforce in higher numbers, it was a natural progression that they delayed childbirth and the number of children they had to pursue careers. This is one of the main reasons that the birth rates are now higher for brown people. But it wouldn't be politically correct to say that. So they claim to be for the rights of the unborn while not giving a crap for these babies after they are born.
niyad
(113,700 posts)babies, you need to pay a bit closer attention.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)niyad
(113,700 posts)Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)that All the hard won rights we have can so easily be taken away.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)They need to start doing what they were elected for. I will fight tooth and nail to get rid of them!
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)... they can pass all the bullshit-show-laws they want, but SCOTUS will have to weigh it against ROE V WADE and I hope to HELL Fat Tony is on vacation that day.
niyad
(113,700 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Especially given the fact that the conservatives have the majority still. Obama has about 41 more months in office. If Ginsburg passes then he has to fill the seat with someone who is going to be reliably liberal. The other possibility is another seat doesn't open up (or both could occur with no one else leaving except Ginsburg). In that case we'd be up shit creek without a paddle unless we win in 2016.
niyad
(113,700 posts)it has always pissed me off that we were told we didn't need the ERA or any sort of legislation, because "the courts will protect you".
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)we are able to tip the court in our favor. A court with a similar make up and a Republican in 2017 would give them a shot at completely outlawing abortion.
niyad
(113,700 posts)even before that happens, we have what all the states are up to.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Funny how it's always the same question with republicans:
9/11 and Iraq -> incompetent or liars?
trickle-down-economics -> incompetent or liars?
"One-austerity-to-save-them-all" -> incompetent or liars?
niyad
(113,700 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)They are so hypocritical that they can be all those (and more!) at the same time.
historylovr
(1,557 posts)This thread will likely be buried beneath the latest security state outrages, but this should also be a huge outrage. We women are losing our personhood (sorry, that's the only term I can think of at the moment) every day. A law here, a law there, the constant bleating of 'rape doesn't cause pregnancy,' etc. When will it stop? Forget 1950s, they want us back in the 1350s. Thank you, niyad, for posting this.
bamacrat
(3,867 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)niyad
(113,700 posts)rights, reproductive autonomy, safety from sexual assault, etc., etc?
duuser5822
(54 posts)I'm sure they'll soon be proposing laws that punishes women who get abortion with death. Misogynistic pigs...
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Between this and wetting themselves screaming "benghaziiii", we ought to spend the next 17 months reminding the American people how these shitwits controlling the House are doing NOTHING except wasting the voters' time and dime on this idiotic crap.
niyad
(113,700 posts)lately who is STILL wearing a rmoney/ryan button, and, hearing her talk, she is totally clueless. their very determined blind and willful ignorance worries me.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)our odds of retaking the house in 2014 are difficult.
niyad
(113,700 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)Just like Congress.
After 9/11, Congress passed, with an almost complete majority, draconian laws to "protect" us from the "terrorists" - without blinking or pausing to f'ing READ what they were making law. Pure knee-jerk that was praised by many, many people as swift and decisive action.
Bills like this rely on similar scare tactics; the reference to Gosnell is carefully crafted to whip up an emotional response.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)In fact, if the GOP even controlled the Senate they probably wouldn't be pulling this crap, because then it might stand a chance of attracting attention as it moved through both bodies or even -gasp- passing.
enlightenment
(8,830 posts)I'm sick of stupid people.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)With you, there.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)It has no chance of being taken up in the Senate and if it did, it would fail by close to a 60-40 margin. Even if it somehow squeaked out of the Senate...it's DOA on Obama's desk. In the meanwhile, the GOP continued to fail to address any of the problems facing America.
NaturalCommunist
(15 posts)This thread made me join.
Clearly they're more interested in a woman destroying a cluster of cells than fixing the economy. But does anyone think that the R's could fix the economy?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)niyad
(113,700 posts)but it would be nice if they focused some of that unbridled zeal they have for controlling women's lives on doing something useful. seppuku comes to mind, but. . .
CBHagman
(16,992 posts)...voted against parental leave for federal employees, according mental health care parity with medical care, and expansion of SCHIP to cover more children?
Why, yes. Yes, it would.
They're interested in women carrying to term (note that I don't say "getting prenatal care and carrying to term" , but after that, folks -- especially you, kids -- well, good luck!
Wounded Bear
(58,757 posts)niyad
(113,700 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)Its not a pretty sight.