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Remember: 53 % of Sanders statements was either half true 23 % , mostly false 18 % or false 12 %. (Original Post) factfinder_77 Jan 2017 OP
And we still have people here hanging on to RT's every word, SMH... bettyellen Jan 2017 #1
Crazy isn't it? TeacherB87 Jan 2017 #2
Pretty darn good. Thanks for refreshing my memory. TheCowsCameHome Jan 2017 #3
I was at Yankee Stadium when Mickey Mantle pangaia Jan 2017 #4
who rtracey Jan 2017 #5
russian owned news here in the usa, many of our so called liberal reporters have joined them recentl pbmus Jan 2017 #8
ahhh rtracey Jan 2017 #19
Yep Gothmog Jan 2017 #6
What no pants on fire? Rex Jan 2017 #7
Fyi NWCorona Jan 2017 #9
The Weekly Standard railing about the liberal media. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #10
Hey, what's up? NWCorona Jan 2017 #11
No three day weekend. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #12
That there is some truth! I've taken a few myself. NWCorona Jan 2017 #13
We lived it Cha Jan 2017 #14
from past experience, I have little faith in truth meters and their methodologies. JCanete Jan 2017 #15
I'd say you place faith in that which validates your biases, and reject that which doesn't LanternWaste Jan 2017 #20
The same nature that governs the decisions and interpretations of these fact checkers. JCanete Jan 2017 #21
No, it's 49%, which is nearly identical to Clinton. What's your point? JustinL Jan 2017 #16
LOL - angry tears make great lemonade. aikoaiko Jan 2017 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jan 2017 #18
 

TeacherB87

(249 posts)
2. Crazy isn't it?
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:07 PM
Jan 2017

How people can overlook lies when the lies validate their pre-existing opinions...

Full disclosure: I voted Hillary in the Primary and General elections.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. What no pants on fire?
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:49 PM
Jan 2017

According to that chart, Trump's pants should be bursting into flames any minute now.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. No three day weekend.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 09:04 PM
Jan 2017

That said, I've been taking some personal days. Sometimes I need to soak in all that is good around me.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
15. from past experience, I have little faith in truth meters and their methodologies.
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:37 AM
Jan 2017

When you get into the weeds of policies, their interpretation is as good as anybody else's. What information did they leave out when they crunched the numbers? What numbers did they privilege over others? At what point did they stop digging and just go with what they had? What is their own lens?

Wouldn't it be weird if they tended to have a moderate point of reference when it comes to some of this? I know i'd be colored surprised. Yes, facts are facts. Once you dive into "mostly falses" and "half-truths" you have left the objective path, and entered the realm of personal judgement, wouldn't you say?
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. I'd say you place faith in that which validates your biases, and reject that which doesn't
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jan 2017

"wouldn't you say?"

I'd say you place faith in that which validates your biases, and reject that which doesn't-- illustrated by your dramatic lack of any objective evidence supporting your initial premise.

Which is fine... it's human nature.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
21. The same nature that governs the decisions and interpretations of these fact checkers.
Thu Jan 19, 2017, 05:22 PM
Jan 2017

From my experience it isn't a matter of me simply refusing to believe something...its that often the methodologies neglect factoring in a component or consideration that seems glaringly obvious to me, thus making the results come across to me as dubious and ideologically driven.

By the way, would you like a run-down of other places I've posted? If yes, indicate this by signing your next drive-by with a couple qq's, and I'll respond with a rundown of OP's and post numbers.

JustinL

(722 posts)
16. No, it's 49%, which is nearly identical to Clinton. What's your point?
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:40 AM
Jan 2017

Is it a good thing or a bad thing that Sanders was just as likely to make false or half-true statements as was Clinton?

You added together the raw numbers of statements rather than the percentages.

Response to aikoaiko (Reply #17)

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