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Whats Scarier: President Trump or President Pence? (Original Post) womanofthehills Jan 2017 OP
because of Nuclear Weapons Issue I will say Trump JI7 Jan 2017 #1
Pence won't blow up the world murielm99 Jan 2017 #2
Well, that depends on whether Pence is an end-of-world Protestant. longship Jan 2017 #6
Neither. YOHABLO Jan 2017 #3
If scandals wreck Trump's administration to the point where many other Republicans cheyanne Jan 2017 #4
That is like choosing between nevergiveup Jan 2017 #5
Question abut Pence becoming President if Trump is removed. MuseRider Jan 2017 #7
because the removal would be based on evidence Trump knowing worked with Russia JI7 Jan 2017 #8
Thanks. MuseRider Jan 2017 #9
The worst case scenario... Yurovsky Jan 2017 #10
Both are scary, but I at least can see to 2020 with Pence. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 #11
Only because I can imagine him causing the end of the world via nukes, I'd say Trump. Vinca Jan 2017 #12
Trump, by far. (nt) Paladin Jan 2017 #13
They are BOTH BlueMTexpat Jan 2017 #14
Pence over Trump Runningdawg Jan 2017 #15
That's a hard one, given Trump's propensity to shoot himself in the foot! LAS14 Jan 2017 #16
Yes. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #17
Good question andym Jan 2017 #18

JI7

(89,240 posts)
1. because of Nuclear Weapons Issue I will say Trump
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:40 AM
Jan 2017

and because i don't see Trump being better on women and lgbt issues than Pence . so as horrible as Pence is there Trump still isn't better . especially since Trump has to keep the hateful base happy.

longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Well, that depends on whether Pence is an end-of-world Protestant.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 01:46 AM
Jan 2017

Consider... he is an out right theocrat.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
4. If scandals wreck Trump's administration to the point where many other Republicans
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:59 AM
Jan 2017

such as Reince, Chaffee, Ryan, are implicated and have to resign, Republicans w ill no longer have a majority in the House. Then moderates and Democrats might have a chance to negogiate with Pence about cabinet appointees,etc.

I don't think will gut the federal government the way Trump is williing to do.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
7. Question abut Pence becoming President if Trump is removed.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 02:08 AM
Jan 2017

How can Pence be considered any more legitimate than Trump if it is found that Trump was elected because of Russian help? How is Pence then legitimate? It does not matter even if he knew or not, he is where he is as much as Trump because of cheating or hacking or whatever they end up finding out.

I know how it usually works but this is different.

Just a question.

My answer to yours is I would rather have Pence as much as I hate everything he stands for simply because I do not think he ever asked anyone why using nuclear weapons would be bad. It scares me to even write that.

JI7

(89,240 posts)
8. because the removal would be based on evidence Trump knowing worked with Russia
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 02:17 AM
Jan 2017

unless he is impeached for something else.

MuseRider

(34,095 posts)
9. Thanks.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 03:11 AM
Jan 2017

Still, the help that Trump was getting should not leave us with another person we did not elect. It may not have been his fault in any way but he would never be in that place if it wasn't for Trump. Just thinking and asking. *and drinking and asking*

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
10. The worst case scenario...
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 08:02 AM
Jan 2017

is 8 years of Orange Julius Caesar followed by 8 years of Pence the Pious. Ugh, I just threw up in my mouth a little...

Then again, the nuclear apocalypse and ensuing nuclear winter would probably extinguish life as we know it well before the end of Pence's second term...

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,155 posts)
11. Both are scary, but I at least can see to 2020 with Pence.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 09:00 AM
Jan 2017

Trump is mentally deranged and a threat to our constitutional democracy as well as our world safety.

Besides the only way he becomes President Pence he'll already be seriously comprised and weakened thanks to the stink of the inevitable Trump debacle.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
12. Only because I can imagine him causing the end of the world via nukes, I'd say Trump.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jan 2017

Pence, on the other hand, might as well cause the end of the world if installed in office since he would rubber stamp every nutty piece of legislation the GOP Congress will vomit out.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
14. They are BOTH
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 11:14 AM
Jan 2017

awful in different ways.

But one can perhaps anticipate Pence's awfulness more consistently, given that he has a record - abysmal as it is - in public service. If that can be considered a virtue, Pence might be marginally better, but only by comparison to Trump.

IMHO, we are thoroughly f*cked either way.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
15. Pence over Trump
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 02:26 PM
Jan 2017

Converting the country to Christianity would take time, it might be bloody, but in the end it would fail. Pushing the button takes a matter of seconds.

andym

(5,443 posts)
18. Good question
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:31 AM
Jan 2017

a dangerous amateur with an ego the size of Texas or a slick ex-talk radio show host ultra conservative. Yikes.

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