Did anyone else note that many of the jackpine nutties are

[boston bean]

fans of RT and Putin. Some of the most prolific conspiratorialists that use to post their crap here.

I'm glad they left.

[TheCowsCameHome]

11. Or if he had won, there would be no Trump stuff posted here.

Think of those savings!

[babylonsister]

13. Excuse me? So who do you want to post here? nt

[uppityperson]

15. Is this sarcasm?

[napi21]

2. I've never seen RT, but is it really a pro Russia network with Larry King and Ed Schultz?

I KNOW Ed Schultz wasn't when he was on MSNBC!

[Blanks]

6. I'd say it is...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_(TV_network)

[JTFrog]

9. Yes it is. Even Skinner has commented on RT several times going back several years.

It's a government funded mouthpiece for the Kremlin.

[mopinko]

24. we used to remove that link.

till people made a big deal out of it. once they picked up hartmann, it got accepted. mission accomplished.

he and eddie are mostly in the- stir up discord any where you can- camp. fuel the purists. turn up their volume.

[Squinch]

27. It ought to go back to the nyetski list.

[Fla Dem]

105. Unfortunately, they give RT a false legitimacy, so people don't realize it's a Russian propaganda

network. Any respect I had for Hartmann, King or Schultz has evaporated.

[synergie]

57. It is, they're wholly owned by Putin and the government. Former employees

are pretty clear about how hands on they are with what's reported. Even Larry King and Ed have made it clear they do not enjoy freedom. They do get a paycheck.

[totodeinhere]

70. And Thom Hartman as well. n/t

[brush]

82. Schultz has gone over to the dark side

Seems he goes where the money is.

He was a righty before he posed as a blue-collar progressive on MSNBC.

[Maru Kitteh]

101. RT is way more than just "Pro-Russia" Putin controls it

Google "Putin RT Flynn Jill Stein"

[bravenak]

3. I totally noticed

They need to put the Russian flag up somewhere.

[DanTex]

4. Another big favorite of BoB types is Assad.

It's hilarious. Hillary wasn't legitimately the nominee because somehow the primaries were "rigged" but Assad is the legitimately elected, benevolent leader of Syria, beloved by his people.

The nuttiness of the far left has really been exposed this last year.

[Maru Kitteh]

102. And Momar Qaddafi, too! Pinebaggers are very sure he was

a really great, beloved, innocent awesome guy - until Hillary personally cut his beating heart out of his chest with a Ginsu knife from the 70's.

[DanTex]

104. Oh, yeah, I remember those threads.

There was some internet meme going around about how under Gadafi there was no poverty and everyone got free everything and life was bliss for all Libyans. LOL.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

5. Many of them could be trolls

Who were part of the massive online misinformation campaign to elect the orange asshole.

[BlueCaliDem]

10. That's where I'd put my money. eom

[True_Blue]

22. Yes probably Russian trolls.

I read an article the other day here on DU, that Putin has trolls in Canada now trying to influence the election there. Apparently, trolls must be pretty effective in affecting the outcome of elections. The right is absolutely horrible at governing, but they win elections because they're masters at getting you to take your eye off the ball.

[2naSalit]

31. Probably.....nt

[uponit7771]

45. +1, they are no doubt Benedict Donald level lovers of Pooty Poot

[Gothmog]

7. Some Russian trolls are really active on that site

[uppityperson]

8. Why do you continue to bring up another forum? Edited to add...

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I was curious what the fascination is with jpr with some duers as I don't understand. I did not mean it as an accusation but as a question because, as I said, I don't understand and wanted to. It's that simple.

Due to the lack of an answer from you about my question, the continuing snarkage replies that I am lying and demands to prove my "accusation" that you've written about jpr have led me to trash this forum.

I will not answer further here because it's obvious that no discussion, no attempt to understand or answer my simple question and enlighten me will happen which is a shame.

[JTFrog]

12. Because it's a shining example of Russia's influence. nt

[boston bean]

18. Plus it's a flat out untrue statement that she made.

[JTFrog]

68. +1 nt

[boston bean]

17. Why are you insinuating something so untrue??

[uppityperson]

19. What's untrue? You've brought up jpr before. Why don't you just answer my question?

[boston bean]

20. Prove it. I am not answering a false accusation.

[uppityperson]

21. I'm not going to search 28000 posts and many people have brought up jpr. I don't understand

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why continue to post about another forum like jpr or why deny you've mentioned them. I apologise for not noticing what forum this was before getting into this as I try to not get into stuff in here as too often things end up in nothing positive.

In answer to the replies, no. I'm not going to search 28000 posts to prove that you mentioned another forum when my question has never been addressed.

That question being why is jpr being brought up again? Further question is why continue infighting when we could be working together to try and help each other survive the next bit?

All that said, I am dropping this now, will not answer anymore here, to you or others who choose to reply.

[boston bean]

23. What a joke.

[boston bean]

30. So nice you are.

[uppityperson]

34. Thank you, it's good to be appreciated.

[boston bean]

41. I feel very much appreciated!

[Cha]

44. IOW you can't prove it.

[boston bean]

75. pretty much..... that would be the obvious case.

[kcr]

64. You have a star. A search would have been very quick and easy on DU.

No excuse.

[yardwork]

69. You made the accusation. It's up to you to defend it.

You need to defend your statement.

Meanwhile, I personally have brought up JPR several times. Why? Because I think that site was one of many funded by Putin to convince useful idiots to spread lies about the Democratic nominee, in order to get Trump elected. It worked. We should pay attention.

[Amimnoch]

63. So.. you make the assertion, and won't defend it.

That sounds so much like someone else. Bigly.

[Tavarious Jackson]

14. I peeked over there just now..

and many of them are rooting for Trump. They're not true progressives. They're " my way the highway" distorted people. Yes, they humped Russia propaganda, even in the primaries.

[MelissaB]

36. Funny. I post at both places and don't see that (rooting for Trump) at all.

[Tavarious Jackson]

38. It took me less than a few seconds to find pro Trump crap

[Ellipsis]

40. yahhhh

[Cha]

58. All you have are personal attacks.. you're calling the poster "Joe McCarthy"

really?

[Ellipsis]

65. Not at all true.

[LanternWaste]

86. I'll admit that much like you, I find it much easier to cower behind implication

I'll admit that much like you, I find it much easier to cower behind implication than state what we actually mean. The post-advantage is that we can rationalize our emotive vagueness as a clear and concise missive that only clever people understand, thus allowing us even more self-validation.

[Ellipsis]

90. Its simpler then your interpetation

It's just difficult for me to compose on a keyboard.


I'll try to elaborate later... On the whole JPR thing.

[Maven]

55. You post at a place where people have "Lock Her Up" in their sig lines.

How proud you must be.

[Cha]

59. +1

[JTFrog]

66. I saw Alex Jones videos. Sexist rants including the c-word. And all the RT propaganda you can eat.

[uponit7771]

46. +1

[Dream Girl]

16. I went there exactly once during the general election and it was so obvious that there was Russian

Influence...then it struck me they were probably on DU so I posted that here and was roundly ridiculed. I'm pretty intuitive. Not sure exactly how I knew but got a strong vibe...

[mcar]

32. Big RT fans

And some were major Putin apologists.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. don't they get ad revenue every time you click over there to check up on them?

You realize you're just putting $ in their pockets with this obsessive behavior.

I've been there to look around maybe once. Yawn.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

49. That's just what they want us to believe

[MelissaB]

35. That's hilarious, really.

But for anyone who wants to check for themselves:

http://jackpineradicals.com/

http://jackpineradicals.com/greatest/

[NCTraveler]

50. That's pretty wild shit.

OP nailed it. I don't expect much from a group who Han numerous member cheering at the thought of Clinton dying and men lining up to piss on her face. I also see some names there who were banned here for being openly racist. Think they are the same people? Maybe it's others trying to make them look this ignorant and hateful.

[UCmeNdc]

37. They might actually be Russians posing as US citizens saying they are Democratic voters.

With a computer and a foreign sovereign country supporting you anything is possible.

[PassingFair]

39. Oh for f's sake....

It's starting to sound like HUAC around here.

[LanternWaste]

87. Except HUAC had consequences, while our benign speculation is little more than simple benign specula

Except HUAC had consequences, while our benign speculation is little more than simple benign speculation lacking any consequence of any measure or degree.

No doubt, were it Free Republic we were discussing, your rationalization sound even more obvious (since we're going by what it "sounds" like and all...).

[oasis]

42. Jackass Deplorables.

[boston bean]

43. +1000

[uponit7771]

47. +1

[Turbineguy]

51. Maybe we need a special forum for them.

Like some right-wing websites have for DU.

[sheshe2]

52. K&R

[Cha]

62. ..

[sheshe2]

72. ...

[NanceGreggs]

53. Now now, there there.

Let’s not rush to judgment of our JPR friends.

They were the first reporters on the scene to tell us that Hillary was lying to the public about the fact that she is dying of dozens of fatal diseases – which she has apparently and miraculously recovered from since she lost the election.

They had no qualms about reporting that HRC has had her political adversaries murdered in cold blood – another story that has disappeared since the election.

They refused to be intimated by the fact that “Clinton thugs” beat-up Bernie the night of the Convention in order to get him to concede.

They never wavered from their stance that HRC was running a child sex-slave operation from the basement of a pizza place – well, until they were ridiculed into retracting that story because it was beyond laughable.

They continue to proffer themselves as True Progressives ™ while posting links to RW sources as proof of their progressive bona fides.

Let's be fair. Just because JPR folks are know-nothing idiots who spew absolute bullshit is no reason to ridicule them as know-nothing idiots who spew absolute bullshit.

[boston bean]

54. Geez Nance! haha

and I'm the one vilified for bringing it up.. LOL

Thanks for the post!

[Cha]

60. "They never wavered from their stance that HRC was running a child sex-slave operation from the..

basement of a pizza place – well, until they were ridiculed into retracting that story because it was beyond laughable."

That's the only way they'll stop posting a particular pos propaganda.

[okasha]

84. And until one of their fellow idiots showed up there with a gun.

[synergie]

56. Quite a few were hoodwinked by RT, I remember a friend on FB, who was delighted

in this new site that had "good" stories, most of which reinforced his false beliefs, and encouraged his hatred of the DNC and Hillary. He and his GF were huge fans. Sadly they had few arguments based in any reason, but a whole lot of anger and misinformation to fuel their Hillary and DNC hate.

[Cha]

61. Willingly "hoodwinked"..

synergie

[yardwork]

73. Mission accomplished. The propaganda worked as intended.

[SidDithers]

71. " RT is watched now by over 50 million US households. It is the ANTI-FOX network."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4363923



Sid

[JTFrog]

74. Well look at that. nt

[Cha]

76. omg.. "serious questions"!

I am shaking in my slippers lol

[Scurrilous]

78. LOL

Queen of the deranged harangues says what?

[SidDithers]

81. That entire thread is gold...

Sid

[okasha]

83. Handles I hadn't seen in months.

DU is much improved witbout them.

[boston bean]

93. And some that are here and very pro putin.

Putin is a brutal dictator.

Reading that thread in hindsight is mind blowing!!

[okasha]

94. Dictator, murderer, gangster--

If there's a crime, he's committed it.

[mtnsnake]

77. Why are you obsessed with giving them so much publicity?

when any publicity is good publicity, as the saying goes..

[boston bean]

79. Why are you obsessed with my alleged obsession?

LOL

[mtnsnake]

80. Good one

[kcr]

85. I'm not sure they'd enjoy knowing a lot of their traffic is hate-reading.

I haven't been there in a while but I admit, they were a guilty pleasure of mine during the election. I saw more than one post by the admin, crowing about how popular they're getting, and she seemed like she thought it was genuine interest.

[Gothmog]

88. I just saw this on that website

If you have to deny something like this, then you are fighting a losing battle http://www.jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/im-not-a-russian-troll/ Being a russian troll on JPR is a good thing

[mathematic]

96. "All" (actually 89%) of their traffic is from US & Can

The graphic they use to show where their visitors come from doesn't add up to 100%.

Just goes to show you the shallow thinking echo chamber they got over there when they post an image and then boldly lie about its contents and nobody calls them on it.

Not like that's a reliable graphic anyway, considering how those visitor trackers can be fooled, but 11% missing traffic is more than enough to account for russian propagandists.

[Contrary1]

98. And even less (77.8%) of DU's traffic is from the US and Canada

Adds up to 85.2% when figuring in the UK, Japan, and Germany. 14.8% missing traffic is also more than enough to account for Russian propagandists.

[mathematic]

99. I agree, there are russian trolls here too

Thankfully people are starting to wake up to that and the trolls will have a harder time purveying their garbage lies.

[Scurrilous]

89. The Mothership:

http://www.thebellforum.com/content.php


Stalin defenders w/ their fingers in more than one DU offshoot.

[seaglass]

91. Didn't they used to be Progressive Independent? Tinoire's site? n/t

[Scurrilous]

92. Yep. n/t

[SidDithers]

95. Wow, that place is still alive?...

Is it still just blindpig and Orwellian_ghost posting to each other?



Sid

[Scurrilous]

97. Just them and the tumbleweeds.

[Gothmog]

100. I go check that board just to see what is going on in that alternative reality

[betsuni]

103. K&R