2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhadya wanna bet the CIA is sitting on evidence of Trump and his camp communicating and colluding..
With Russia during the campaign - ready to dangle it threateningly over his fat orange head the moment he actually sets out to dismantle the Agency?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/11/10/russian-officials-were-in-contact-with-trump-during-campaign.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl
MFM008
(19,782 posts)I'm sure.
Zoonart
(11,750 posts)I think that's why Woolsey high tailed. it out of there.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)And Rudy G. may have gotten a heads up to distance himself.
Zoonart
(11,750 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)In the event they had the Con Campaign absolutely nailed! Trump wouldn't be smart enough to conceive this - but the evil Bannon likely would be.
UCmeNdc
(9,589 posts)Putin has a good thing going with Trump in play.
pbmus
(12,418 posts)sfwriter
(3,032 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)The map doesn't look good for Democrats in 2018, but a Trump impeachment would alter the outlook.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Would have no choice but to impeach and remove der Fuhrer from office
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Progressive dog
(6,862 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Freethinker65
(9,934 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)northoftheborder
(7,566 posts)This is turning into soap opera/spy novel/political thriller..........horrifying because it is all REAL, not just words in a book.........
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Wonder when the next chapter will end up being released.
sinkingfeeling
(51,279 posts)Turn CO Blue
(4,221 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)mopinko
(69,806 posts)the cia knows what pootie has on him. this aint just about money. this is about bought loyalty, blackmail and plain treason.
2naSalit
(86,061 posts)the whole "hand" in this game.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)2naSalit
(86,061 posts)I have been having a recurring dream... for over a week, in which something happens whereby the inauguration is postponed or something and it seems it is something that happens at the last minute like around the 19th.
Many of my recurring dreams actually come to pass in a manner very much like I saw in the dream. This feels like one of those and I hope that it is one of those.
Speaking to a friend today over tea, a very worldly war correspondent in fact, and they speculated that it may take about six months so the trumplodites will be terribly disillusioned and actually be glad when the cheetoking gets kennedied. He's a loose cannon and uncontrollable... which makes him expendable, which appears to be why the Rs don't give much of a shit about what he does until that fateful day... and then we will get WWIII as a consolation prize. For the time being, he's great cover for the shit they are pulling behind closed doors making us a fascist country... shock doctrine style.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)is not from the CIA.
Wounded Bear
(58,440 posts)By law, they're not allowed to spy in/on America, but they probably have enough eyes and ears in Russia to know what is going on from their end. If nothing else, any of his business dealings would be available to our spooks in Moscow.
I can't imagine they don't have anything on him.
former9thward
(31,805 posts)But it sounds good so let's throw it out there and claim its true!
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Is basically what us lay people do around here, former!! I can tell you that about everything released so far I had luckily speculated (or deduced) had happened by the day after the election. If we slow down a bit for you - maybe you'll be able to catch up - and even contribute more than just your sour cynicism!
triron
(21,916 posts)former9thward
(31,805 posts)I read countless posts here which claim the Russians hacked voting machines and changed vote totals. That is not being put forward as "speculation" but as truth and it is clear many believe it even though there is zero evidence of that. It is all baseless CTs no matter how its dressed up.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Perhaps Kellyanne has a position for you...
former9thward
(31,805 posts)I think a job is open for you.... BTW its also Obama's position...
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Obama is obviously encumbered with responsibilities that do not allow him to speak as freely as you and I can do about probably most subjects. It won't do for a President (other than the idiot Trump) to publicly speculate - and there are always going to be issues that he cannot be candid about. Be that as it may, Obama's story doesn't quite add up, but the determination might well be (and maybe justifiably so) that the American public is stable enough to handle proof of hacking actual voting tallies - and that the American President was just selected by the Russian President.
You don't have to buy my theory, and that's fine. I'm afraid I don't have time to at the moment to include some of the circumstantial evidence that I feel strongly supports what I'm suggesting, but you've probably seen most of it by now anyway. To each his own.
unblock
(51,974 posts)it's already public information.
oh, you mean *more* evidence of that sort of thing?
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)former9thward
(31,805 posts)Almost instantly.
emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)Someone may get increasingly frustrated and leak it later
emulatorloo
(43,982 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)You know a fascist traitor when you see one!!! (Too bad 40 some odd percent of the population did not! - they made it close enough to steal!)
BadGimp
(4,009 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)He probably has glowing words for the kgb.
He is openly treasonous. I feel like something will happen to him.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Pick a fight with the Bush Crime Family, and don't even bother hide a traitorous preference the Russian government over America's.
Hmmm. Doesn't sound like the safest course of action a U.S. President could possibly take.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Amazing. Trump is like Adolph Hitler meets Eddie Haskel meets Barney Fife.
2naSalit
(86,061 posts)hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)triron
(21,916 posts)meow2u3
(24,745 posts)They put their lives on the line to neutralize foreign threats to national security, including and especially those from your beloved comrade Putin. It's even more foolish to insult or threaten to dismantle the agency at Pootie's behest.
If you don't believe me, ask the surviving Kennedys. From JFK and RFK to their sons, they all met untimely deaths, either by assassins' bullets or by some sort of "accident."
If Comrade Casino values his life or the lives of his family, he had better not pick a fight with the CIA; he's bound to lose. That should be warning enough, but I doubt he'll heed it.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)Unless it comes from his dear Pootie!
triron
(21,916 posts)nycbos
(6,033 posts)Charles Colson (of watergate fame) said "Once you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."
lame54
(35,141 posts)libtodeath
(2,888 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,589 posts)They need to interrogate Rudy Giuliani, Roger Stone, Breitbart, Chris Christie, etc.
UCmeNdc
(9,589 posts)can verify and report.