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Whadya wanna bet the CIA is sitting on evidence of Trump and his camp communicating and colluding.. (Original Post) ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 OP
Yes MFM008 Jan 2017 #1
Personally... Zoonart Jan 2017 #2
Me too ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #3
I think it also has him tied to Bannon and Flynn too - no matter what the political cost ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #6
YEP Zoonart Jan 2017 #9
Yep. He has a reputation to keep. leftofcool Jan 2017 #51
In fact - the Trumpettes may have floated the threat of dismantling for some bargaining room... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #16
Trump wanted to weaken the CIA to help his Russian contacts. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #59
Better do that sooner rather than later.. pbmus Jan 2017 #4
As soon as he is sworn in and President Pence is the assured outcome... EOM sfwriter Jan 2017 #7
Very possibly. ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #15
If Trump is impeached, the Republican electorate will explode. Garrett78 Jan 2017 #19
I think EVEN the GOP ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #21
Couldn't agree more! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #8
I wouldn't bet against it nt Progressive dog Jan 2017 #5
Neither would I. Not even one plug nickel! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #10
Yep. Trump will be blackmailed from both sides Freethinker65 Jan 2017 #11
Absolutely... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #12
Triple "yep" northoftheborder Jan 2017 #13
Evidently they're going to break it to us very slowly and gently... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #14
Yep sinkingfeeling Jan 2017 #17
Then drop it now BEFORE he's sworn in -- saving the nation nowbetter than saving CIA later. n/t Turn CO Blue Jan 2017 #18
Amen to that, Comrade, er, brother/sister! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #20
whadya wanna bet mopinko Jan 2017 #22
I'm sure they haven't played 2naSalit Jan 2017 #23
Well put! That pretty much sizes up where we are at this juncture. ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #42
As I have said in other comments... 2naSalit Jan 2017 #43
From what I can tell, they haven't played any hand at all. What's know from what posted last night KittyWampus Jan 2017 #60
They don't even have to break any rules/laws... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #24
Yet another CT without a particle of evidence. former9thward Jan 2017 #25
SPECULATION ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #28
I had as well triron Jan 2017 #29
Oh BS former9thward Jan 2017 #30
You do such a good job of arguing Trump's position... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #32
You do such a good job of personal attacks which violate TOS. former9thward Jan 2017 #34
Being that he's President... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #38
he publicly asked them to hack hillary's server and publish the contraband emails. unblock Jan 2017 #26
Right, no need for theories we can take the public info before us uponit7771 Jan 2017 #41
Yes. I bet it is all in the classified report. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #27
If it was in the classified report it would have been leaked. former9thward Jan 2017 #31
Not necessarily 'instantly'. Let's wait and see. emulatorloo Jan 2017 #35
Turns out my hunch was right, it was leaked today, 1/10/2017 emulatorloo Jan 2017 #53
Kudos, emulatorloo! ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #54
you'd win that bet imo BadGimp Jan 2017 #33
I think you are right.Trump has made it clear his disdain for the IC-at least here in the US, anyway AgadorSparticus Jan 2017 #36
Publically humiliate the C.I.A., refuse to cooperate with the Secret Service, ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #40
Exactly what I was thinking. I think they've got him by the balls. Lil Missy Jan 2017 #37
I know it. They really do. ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #39
LOL!!! 2naSalit Jan 2017 #44
I can't help but think he's in on it or they have something on him hollowdweller Jan 2017 #45
He acts guiltier by the day... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #46
Yes he was and is complicit. triron Jan 2017 #49
Mr. Drumpf, it's not wise to pick a fight with the CIA meow2u3 Jan 2017 #47
"Comrade Casino RARELY heeds advice... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #48
kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #50
Indeed. nycbos Jan 2017 #52
WTF are they waiting for lame54 Jan 2017 #55
If they do then get him indicted now. libtodeath Jan 2017 #56
They should start the investigation ASAP! UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #57
No wonder Trump wants to dismantle the CIA and NSA... Put the old pros out to pasture before they UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #58
I expect they'll get him before he gets them... ElementaryPenguin Jan 2017 #61

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
6. I think it also has him tied to Bannon and Flynn too - no matter what the political cost
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:05 PM
Jan 2017

And Rudy G. may have gotten a heads up to distance himself.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
16. In fact - the Trumpettes may have floated the threat of dismantling for some bargaining room...
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jan 2017

In the event they had the Con Campaign absolutely nailed! Trump wouldn't be smart enough to conceive this - but the evil Bannon likely would be.

UCmeNdc

(9,589 posts)
59. Trump wanted to weaken the CIA to help his Russian contacts.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jan 2017

Putin has a good thing going with Trump in play.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
19. If Trump is impeached, the Republican electorate will explode.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:05 PM
Jan 2017

The map doesn't look good for Democrats in 2018, but a Trump impeachment would alter the outlook.

northoftheborder

(7,566 posts)
13. Triple "yep"
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:14 PM
Jan 2017

This is turning into soap opera/spy novel/political thriller..........horrifying because it is all REAL, not just words in a book.........

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
14. Evidently they're going to break it to us very slowly and gently...
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jan 2017

Wonder when the next chapter will end up being released.

mopinko

(69,806 posts)
22. whadya wanna bet
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:34 PM
Jan 2017

the cia knows what pootie has on him. this aint just about money. this is about bought loyalty, blackmail and plain treason.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
43. As I have said in other comments...
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 01:12 AM
Jan 2017

I have been having a recurring dream... for over a week, in which something happens whereby the inauguration is postponed or something and it seems it is something that happens at the last minute like around the 19th.

Many of my recurring dreams actually come to pass in a manner very much like I saw in the dream. This feels like one of those and I hope that it is one of those.

Speaking to a friend today over tea, a very worldly war correspondent in fact, and they speculated that it may take about six months so the trumplodites will be terribly disillusioned and actually be glad when the cheetoking gets kennedied. He's a loose cannon and uncontrollable... which makes him expendable, which appears to be why the Rs don't give much of a shit about what he does until that fateful day... and then we will get WWIII as a consolation prize. For the time being, he's great cover for the shit they are pulling behind closed doors making us a fascist country... shock doctrine style.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
60. From what I can tell, they haven't played any hand at all. What's know from what posted last night
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jan 2017

is not from the CIA.

Wounded Bear

(58,440 posts)
24. They don't even have to break any rules/laws...
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:52 PM
Jan 2017

By law, they're not allowed to spy in/on America, but they probably have enough eyes and ears in Russia to know what is going on from their end. If nothing else, any of his business dealings would be available to our spooks in Moscow.

I can't imagine they don't have anything on him.

former9thward

(31,805 posts)
25. Yet another CT without a particle of evidence.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:09 PM
Jan 2017

But it sounds good so let's throw it out there and claim its true!

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
28. SPECULATION
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:46 PM
Jan 2017

Is basically what us lay people do around here, former!! I can tell you that about everything released so far I had luckily speculated (or deduced) had happened by the day after the election. If we slow down a bit for you - maybe you'll be able to catch up - and even contribute more than just your sour cynicism!

former9thward

(31,805 posts)
30. Oh BS
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

I read countless posts here which claim the Russians hacked voting machines and changed vote totals. That is not being put forward as "speculation" but as truth and it is clear many believe it even though there is zero evidence of that. It is all baseless CTs no matter how its dressed up.

former9thward

(31,805 posts)
34. You do such a good job of personal attacks which violate TOS.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

I think a job is open for you.... BTW its also Obama's position...

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
38. Being that he's President...
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 12:12 AM
Jan 2017

Obama is obviously encumbered with responsibilities that do not allow him to speak as freely as you and I can do about probably most subjects. It won't do for a President (other than the idiot Trump) to publicly speculate - and there are always going to be issues that he cannot be candid about. Be that as it may, Obama's story doesn't quite add up, but the determination might well be (and maybe justifiably so) that the American public is stable enough to handle proof of hacking actual voting tallies - and that the American President was just selected by the Russian President.

You don't have to buy my theory, and that's fine. I'm afraid I don't have time to at the moment to include some of the circumstantial evidence that I feel strongly supports what I'm suggesting, but you've probably seen most of it by now anyway. To each his own.

unblock

(51,974 posts)
26. he publicly asked them to hack hillary's server and publish the contraband emails.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:13 PM
Jan 2017

it's already public information.

oh, you mean *more* evidence of that sort of thing?

emulatorloo

(43,982 posts)
35. Not necessarily 'instantly'. Let's wait and see.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:31 PM
Jan 2017

Someone may get increasingly frustrated and leak it later

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
54. Kudos, emulatorloo!
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jan 2017

You know a fascist traitor when you see one!!! (Too bad 40 some odd percent of the population did not! - they made it close enough to steal!)

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
36. I think you are right.Trump has made it clear his disdain for the IC-at least here in the US, anyway
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:48 PM
Jan 2017

He probably has glowing words for the kgb.

He is openly treasonous. I feel like something will happen to him.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
40. Publically humiliate the C.I.A., refuse to cooperate with the Secret Service,
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 12:38 AM
Jan 2017

Pick a fight with the Bush Crime Family, and don't even bother hide a traitorous preference the Russian government over America's.

Hmmm. Doesn't sound like the safest course of action a U.S. President could possibly take.

meow2u3

(24,745 posts)
47. Mr. Drumpf, it's not wise to pick a fight with the CIA
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 03:19 PM
Jan 2017

They put their lives on the line to neutralize foreign threats to national security, including and especially those from your beloved comrade Putin. It's even more foolish to insult or threaten to dismantle the agency at Pootie's behest.

If you don't believe me, ask the surviving Kennedys. From JFK and RFK to their sons, they all met untimely deaths, either by assassins' bullets or by some sort of "accident."

If Comrade Casino values his life or the lives of his family, he had better not pick a fight with the CIA; he's bound to lose. That should be warning enough, but I doubt he'll heed it.

nycbos

(6,033 posts)
52. Indeed.
Sun Jan 8, 2017, 12:22 AM
Jan 2017

Charles Colson (of watergate fame) said "Once you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow."

UCmeNdc

(9,589 posts)
57. They should start the investigation ASAP!
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jan 2017

They need to interrogate Rudy Giuliani, Roger Stone, Breitbart, Chris Christie, etc.

UCmeNdc

(9,589 posts)
58. No wonder Trump wants to dismantle the CIA and NSA... Put the old pros out to pasture before they
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jan 2017

can verify and report.

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