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#BREAKING: Twenty Republican electors are reportedly considering not voting for Trump. (Original Post) pbmus Dec 2016 OP
I can't get the whole page to load. shraby Dec 2016 #1
Does for me? pbmus Dec 2016 #2
If they don't block him, we have disaster. If they do block him, we have civil war. Binkie The Clown Dec 2016 #3
Comrade Comey and Putin win.. pbmus Dec 2016 #4
I think the immediate flare up would be... lame54 Dec 2016 #11
BUT oldtime dfl_er Dec 2016 #26
But... Binkie The Clown Dec 2016 #31
Michael Moore (on The Last Word) said we need 37. spiderpig Dec 2016 #5
The word is getting out. kentuck Dec 2016 #6
I'll Believe it when I see it. Afromania Dec 2016 #7
Welcome to DU... I like the sound of your jib.. pbmus Dec 2016 #10
Nailed it! leftofcool Dec 2016 #12
I like the way you write oldtime dfl_er Dec 2016 #27
knr triron Dec 2016 #8
They will vote Kasich or Romney or somebody else who would be illegitimate duffyduff Dec 2016 #9
as much as I dislike Kasich, Jeb or Mitt NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #16
Wooo-fuck'n-hooo... awesome!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #13
Pure fantasy. Kotya Dec 2016 #14
I think there will be a handful of them NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #17
+1 n/t area51 Dec 2016 #24
Can these electors abstain from voting? BSdetect Dec 2016 #15
but we would need twenty more. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #18
They won't vote for Clinton MichMary Dec 2016 #19
That's BS Megahurtz Dec 2016 #20
Should be, MichMary Dec 2016 #21
You're dreaming if you think they'd vote for Hillary mtnsnake Dec 2016 #22
Any other Republican Megahurtz Dec 2016 #25
it only matters if they vote for Clinton, instead. electron_blue Dec 2016 #23
It's not Breaking News if it is 2 days old. nt doc03 Dec 2016 #28
I posted this yesterday pbmus Dec 2016 #29
Is this before or after they have offers from Trump's boys to grease their palms? TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #30

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
3. If they don't block him, we have disaster. If they do block him, we have civil war.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 11:59 PM
Dec 2016

This is shaping up to look like a no-win situation.

lame54

(35,262 posts)
11. I think the immediate flare up would be...
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:16 AM
Dec 2016

Much more preferable

As ugly as it would be

We would stand a much better chance of surviving it

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
26. BUT
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:57 PM
Dec 2016

it will be a civil war among Republicans. The House would choose a Republican alternative, and the Trumpies would go ballistic. The Dems can stay out of it, and chaos will reign for awhile. Then, as usual, a Dem will come in and sweep up.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
7. I'll Believe it when I see it.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:10 AM
Dec 2016

Until then they are just blowing so much smoke, like so many of the GOP that refused to support Trump. They said one thing then slid on their bellies right on back to that fruitcake.

I wont say much about Hillary and how the election shook out but look what playing patty cake with those bums got her. It got her whacked by Miss Scarlet in the ballroom that's what.

I'd like to believe these guys have a conscience of some sort, but that's like believing you can be friend with a Tiger. At some point that Tiger is gonna go Tiger and your face is going to be lunch.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
9. They will vote Kasich or Romney or somebody else who would be illegitimate
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 12:11 AM
Dec 2016

They'd rather die than cast a vote for the popular vote winner.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. as much as I dislike Kasich, Jeb or Mitt
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:10 AM
Dec 2016

at least they're not in bed with Putin like Trump and his team. I can't imagine any of them picking Tillerson to head the state department...

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. I think there will be a handful of them
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:12 AM
Dec 2016

protest votes, but not nearly enough to swing the total vote.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
19. They won't vote for Clinton
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:28 AM
Dec 2016

The electors have been selected because they are reliably Republican. The best hope is that they will vote for a more sane Republican. If they do, and Hair Feuhrer gets fewer than 270 EC votes, it will throw the election into the House--which is controlled by Rs. The Rs will vote for Trump because they will all be facing reelection in two years, and don't want to face the torches and pitchforks of the Trump voters.

Even if there were enough Democratic electors who would vote for the sane R choice, i'm not sure the House would have to support that vote. They may be able to overturn it and install Trump anyway. (Again, because of their own future reelections.)

There was a slim hope that the recounts would turn up uncounted votes for Clinton, but once Wisconsin was in and the original outcome was confirmed, I became less hopeful. When the courts stopped the recounts in MI and PA, it was pretty much over.

Trump will be the next President--at least until he does something impeachable.

The thing to do is to put all our efforts into 2018. Retaking the House and Senate should be the priority. It makes impeachment and conviction much more likely, and will give us the chance to block Trump's agenda.

Megahurtz

(7,046 posts)
20. That's BS
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:48 AM
Dec 2016

It should go to Clinton because she was in the running and won the popular vote. I can't see them voting for some random Republican who wasn't even in the running. Do you realize what an uproar that would cause? No, the Electors should be voting for Hillary Clinton.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
22. You're dreaming if you think they'd vote for Hillary
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

The electors can vote for whoever they want, and if they don't elect Trump, it will surely be some other Republican.

Megahurtz

(7,046 posts)
25. Any other Republican
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 02:51 PM
Dec 2016

in there would be much, much worse than Trump IMO. What's the point if they won't vote Hillary in place of Trump? The fair vote would be for the electors to vote Hillary in since she won the popular vote for president. I haven't been up on how the process goes, but it sounds completely ridiculous, and severely outdated.

electron_blue

(3,592 posts)
23. it only matters if they vote for Clinton, instead.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 11:26 AM
Dec 2016

I am not interested in protest votes that do not change the outcome. Voting for anyone else will not make anyone else president-elect.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
30. Is this before or after they have offers from Trump's boys to grease their palms?
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 03:30 PM
Dec 2016

.


Apparently, the strong arm tactic isn't working.


Has Trump tried placing a horse heads in each of their beds while they are sleeping?


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