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Unbelievable!! Trump supporters' claim stuns CNN anchor (Original Post) mfcorey1 Dec 2016 OP
The time for the media to be smacking their heads Guilded Lilly Dec 2016 #1
They believe whatever Fox News or Trump tells them. This country doc03 Dec 2016 #2
Alisyn Camerota is one of the very few anchors I like nowadays mtnsnake Dec 2016 #3
Stop interviewing these people. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #4
Exactly. The TV media is disgusting how they give equal time to liars and halfwits mtnsnake Dec 2016 #7
No, you quit because you didn't like all of the "President elect" news CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #9
They interview these people to try to expose their stupidity...but hamsterjill Dec 2016 #12
That should have been the media reaction every single day throughout the campaign... Garrett78 Dec 2016 #5
I saw that - I couldn't believe that a seemingly bright person was that ill informed. CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #6
I've posted these before and I'll post them again: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #10
Wait. Scalia literally believed in the devil???? This needs to asked in the confirmation hearings JudyM Dec 2016 #19
Maybe that's why he was convinced the devil exists. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #36
Just incredible. And tRump is continuing to assault the media as liars. Which they often are, but JudyM Dec 2016 #38
We just have to outnumber them. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #40
Certainly true. The question will be whether he succeeds in dumbing everyone down more than JudyM Dec 2016 #41
They have been carefully taught, Garrett78. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #21
I think low information is the wrong term. Cracklin Charlie Dec 2016 #11
yep. d_r Dec 2016 #20
I'm sorry..."seemingly bright"???? hamsterjill Dec 2016 #15
Liberals have allowed it for too long. I'll admit that I didn't make a big stink about... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #17
The blame lies squarely on the right. duffyduff Dec 2016 #32
The problem is tribalism in America. apnu Dec 2016 #18
You might be right. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #22
i don't see anything "seemingly bright" with that bunch JI7 Dec 2016 #33
was on the treadmill and saw this too jodymarie aimee Dec 2016 #8
Waste of time. Mariana Dec 2016 #30
it's not really about convincing them but putting out the facts because they claim to be a news JI7 Dec 2016 #34
You can't fight ignorance. Stubborn ignorance. Lint Head Dec 2016 #13
The fox video versus the snopes video. Jim__ Dec 2016 #14
Wait until she meets the anti-vaxers and flat-earthers. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #16
CNN fake news FrenchieCat Dec 2016 #23
There is NO outreach to the half-wit and the idiot. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #24
There is no substitute for a brain! Coyotl Dec 2016 #25
But we're not suppose to call them "stupid" SHRED Dec 2016 #26
Ah, and the problem in this country is that MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS don't know how to source material? LisaM Dec 2016 #27
People like this are a lost cause Lanius Dec 2016 #28
this is all just tea baggers all over again. ill informed economic twits. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #29
Why can't we say most of them are dumbfucks and/or bigots ? JI7 Dec 2016 #31
THIS is what our M$M has brought us to. BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #35
As I suggested above, where was that sort of reaction during the campaign? Garrett78 Dec 2016 #37
Alisyn Camerota smacked the wrong head. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2016 #39

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
1. The time for the media to be smacking their heads
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:27 PM
Dec 2016

And challenging The Stupid...is rather a moot point now, isn't it

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
3. Alisyn Camerota is one of the very few anchors I like nowadays
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:34 PM
Dec 2016

She is one of the few TV news anchors who seems to sincerely care about the truth.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
7. Exactly. The TV media is disgusting how they give equal time to liars and halfwits
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:40 PM
Dec 2016

all in the cause for higher ratings which leads to more money in the TV media's pockets from all the pharmaceutical companies who pay millions to buy airspace for their monotonous 5 minute long commercials. "Reality TV" sells, but I guess truth doesn't.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
9. No, you quit because you didn't like all of the "President elect" news
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:41 PM
Dec 2016

Same here, but I didn't stay away for long. It is for segments like this that I watch. I love when Trump fans display what idiots they are.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
12. They interview these people to try to expose their stupidity...but
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:47 PM
Dec 2016

Half of the viewership is as ill-informed and ignorant as the types that are being interviewed here, and those ignoramuses don't get the joke!

We are indeed a "dumbed down" society. It's frightening to me.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. That should have been the media reaction every single day throughout the campaign...
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:37 PM
Dec 2016

...in response to virtually everything Trump and his surrogates were saying.

And, once again, I have to point out that voter fraud (nearly non-existent) is not the same as election fraud. That video is about alleged voter fraud, yet the blurb next to the video used the phrase "election fraud." Face palm, indeed.

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
6. I saw that - I couldn't believe that a seemingly bright person was that ill informed.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:38 PM
Dec 2016

When this person was asked where she had seen or heard that "millions of people voted illegally", (especially in California), she said she thought she had heard it on CNN. When she was told, no, that wasn't on CNN, she reverted to saying that President Obama had told illegal immigrants they could vote in the Presidential election and she implied that millions of illegals had voted in California. There were five Trump supporters being interviewed at the time and a woman standing behind this person was shaking her head in agreement.

Fricking amazing - no wander we lost the election because of low information voters - idiots who will apparently believe anything they are told provided it fits their preconceptions.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
19. Wait. Scalia literally believed in the devil???? This needs to asked in the confirmation hearings
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:10 PM
Dec 2016

from now on. Simply freaking unbelievable!
And here I thought he was the devil...

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
36. Maybe that's why he was convinced the devil exists.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:05 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:49 AM - Edit history (1)

Seriously, though, everyone here needs to understand that tens of millions of people will never be reached by the Democratic Party. It may be tempting to think it's just a matter of educating/informing people, but studies have made it clear that presenting facts backfires. False beliefs get even more ingrained.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
38. Just incredible. And tRump is continuing to assault the media as liars. Which they often are, but
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

it is looking now like his apparent intent is to cloak upcoming bad actions with this. Whatever they call him on, he'll just say they're lying. And faux news created this fact-doubting culture. There ought to be a way to sue those SOBs. I'm afraid we're on the brink of a horrible massive cultural erosion. Did you see a group of scientists just wrote him to implore him to stop questioning things that are demonstrated facts?! This is what we are facing. No one will believe he's doing the awful things he intends... he will just keep smokin and jokin with his rally crowds... so if we can't appeal to facts, as you suggest, what is left to do?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
40. We just have to outnumber them.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:35 PM
Dec 2016

Dems have to find a way to turn out more people and combat voter suppression. 40% don't vote in presidential elections. 60% don't vote in mid-term elections.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
41. Certainly true. The question will be whether he succeeds in dumbing everyone down more than
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

we can wake them up.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
11. I think low information is the wrong term.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:44 PM
Dec 2016

I think we should start calling it what it really is...Disinformation.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
15. I'm sorry..."seemingly bright"????
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:53 PM
Dec 2016

To me, you could see the stupidity oozing out her eyeballs. I encounter these types in my own area on a daily basis. They not only believe anything they are told, but will argue with you even if you provide facts that dispute their preconceptions. Then, they go find their friends and gang up on you so that you'll be intimidated and yield to them. It's what they've been taught to do - mostly from the pulpit, too.

These types are not capable of independent thought. I honestly don't know if it is a physical or mental incapacity, a need to simply fit in, lack of education or all of the above.

But it is a realistic picture of what we are up against for the next four years at a minimum, and it's frightening.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
17. Liberals have allowed it for too long. I'll admit that I didn't make a big stink about...
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:04 PM
Dec 2016

... disinformation masters like Rush Limbaugh years ago. I didn't think enough people could be dumb/gullible enough to believe it... despite how I'd witnessed the influence with my own eyes at some low-paying factories. I figured, "Well, these people are uneducated idiots, but thankfully they're a tiny percentage of the population."

I'm not even sure how to fight it now because it's been happening for so long. The worst part is that the followers have been sucked into believing the "liberal media" conspiracy to such an extent that even liberal radio shows aren't likely to reach them.

If liberal "think tanks" heavily funded such messages, the damn media is largely corporate owned anyway. There's investment bankers who own the biggest radio conglomerates, for example, and I'm sure that they'd prefer to continue conservative propaganda over liberal information even if lots of money was thrown at them.

Maybe I'm too cynical, but I sometimes think it's going to take another Great Depression to wake up many people.

Maybe Democrats should try harder to reach poor folks who stopped voting because they don't think anything will really change?

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
32. The blame lies squarely on the right.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:52 AM
Dec 2016

The 24/7 propaganda began with the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987. Rush Limbaugh was a nobody before then.

Fox "News" would never have existed the way it did without that repeal.

I was horrified when Reagan did it. Right away I said it would allow outright propaganda on the public.

apnu

(8,758 posts)
18. The problem is tribalism in America.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:05 PM
Dec 2016

These people are highly tribal. They trust and believe anything their tribal leaders say. Everything outside the tribe is viewed with suspicion and disbelief.

Human beings do this sort of thing all the time, tribalism comes naturally to us, we have to train ourselves to look beyond the tribe. Education is supposed to teach that, clearly it no longer does for many Americans.

Ok, that's a problem that can be fixed, however the more dangerous problem is what the tribal leaders are saying to their tribe members. We know they are openly lying about everything. The white supremacist right has taken over the conservative echo chamber and is filling it up with lies and distortions and paranoia and general fear mongering. They know full well that members of the conservative tribe are fearfully loyal and trusting, they count on that, in fact, to propagate their hateful campaign. To them, the tribe's intense trust of the tribe is a tool to further their scheme.

Its disgusting, deplorable, and abusive.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
22. You might be right.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:17 PM
Dec 2016

It might even be ingrained in many people in an evolutionary sense. Humans survived in small family groups for far longer than in larger "civilizations" composed of many "strangers."

People generally moved to civilizations for their own self interest. Peter Turchin claims it was outside threats that brought them together.

I consider Republicans a threat to our civilization, but it might be hard to convince others.

Coincidentally, married people are much more likely to vote Republican than single people. Regular church-goers (another kind of local tribe) are far more likely to vote Republican too.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
8. was on the treadmill and saw this too
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:41 PM
Dec 2016

why did she treat them like demented 2nd graders, they are the reason we are in this mess. Should she have not have corrected them a bit stronger.....google it...... for Christ's sake.

Mariana

(14,858 posts)
30. Waste of time.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 05:44 PM
Dec 2016

She could never have convinced them no matter what she said or how she said it. They would have said she was persecuting them or some such shit - and they would have believed it too.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
34. it's not really about convincing them but putting out the facts because they claim to be a news
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:54 AM
Dec 2016

channel.

Jim__

(14,077 posts)
14. The fox video versus the snopes video.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 01:52 PM
Dec 2016

The fox video:

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The full video (from snopes ) :

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. There is NO outreach to the half-wit and the idiot.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:58 PM
Dec 2016

There is NO outreach to the half-wit and the idiot. There is no rational method of convincing the man who states 2+2=22 to stop voting against his own interest. There is no reason to stop calling them (accurately, and by its very definition) idiots and bigots.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
27. Ah, and the problem in this country is that MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS don't know how to source material?
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 03:20 PM
Dec 2016

I think that most of them could do a better job than these women.

Lanius

(599 posts)
28. People like this are a lost cause
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 03:36 PM
Dec 2016

They will never believe anything not said on right-wing hate radio or not seen on Fox Noise. Unfortunately they can vote (and even run for office) while still being so small-minded and ignorant.

pansypoo53219

(20,981 posts)
29. this is all just tea baggers all over again. ill informed economic twits.
Thu Dec 1, 2016, 04:03 PM
Dec 2016

the rise of the know nothings part 3.0.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
31. Why can't we say most of them are dumbfucks and/or bigots ?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 01:50 AM
Dec 2016

and that's why they voted for that piece of shit.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
35. THIS is what our M$M has brought us to.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:03 AM
Dec 2016

Infotainment replaced news a long, goddamned time ago. It's been common knowledge that Faux News was an outrageous propaganda mouthpiece for the Fascist Party here, and now, NONE of these rubes can tell what's real from what's not.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
37. As I suggested above, where was that sort of reaction during the campaign?
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 02:08 AM
Dec 2016

There should have been nearly constant face-palming throughout the campaign.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,350 posts)
39. Alisyn Camerota smacked the wrong head.
Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:35 AM
Dec 2016

She smacked her own forehead. It was someone else's forehead that needed slapping.

Disclaimer: Kidding, not actually advocating violence.

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