Here's the Best Information I have found on "why we lost". It happened while DU was down. ;)

[LaydeeBug]

Racism. Russian Rigging. Republican Fraud

We *all* WITNESSED this happen. Courts *ordered* the KGB/GOP from the antics that they were engaging in and they just *ignored* them and continued with it.

Don't watch MSNBC. They financed Donald Trump's campaign by giving him free press. They perpetrated a FRAUD against the American people when Mark Burnett merely edited Donald Trump's racism to the cutting room floor instead of ending their tenure with him.

Let that sink in for a minute.

People of color had to wash their hands in front of a witness in order to put a mic on him. No one said a word.

"Just Grab them by the pussy" should have come out in the GOP primary. Don't tell me no one did their work on this man...RUSSIA decided what would be our headlines, and MSNBC happily slurped along with it.

Joe Scarborough (R- dead intern) was HELPING Donald and consulting with him this election season. Why would we *believe* him? Why would *anyone* say, "Oh watch this...it's really good"?

How about fucking DON'T watch him? You can't say you want to change a system IF you are the one holding it in place. Stop holding that in place.

They knew to come here. They knew that we would use this site to chronicle their fraud. That helped them too. Pretend otherwise.

But don't you dare try to tell me that we need to abandon gays, people of color, women, economically depressed, economically repressed and fucking BATHROOMS when you motherfuckers won't even address the FACT that Russia rigged this election.

Deep down, you know it.

[LexVegas]

1. Truth. nt

[Auntie Bush]

2. Well said and so true Laydee

I'm guilty of watching MSNBC and was always angered or changed the channel when I felt they favored the orange Dump i.e. the " Orange Shit"

[hueymahl]

3. Of course, lets not ask the hard questions when we can blame the "russians"

[LaydeeBug]

11. Let's be sure we put the BLAME where it's due, instead of blame the victim

Voter suppression *IS* voter fraud.

[Nancyswidower]

4. Or....Sec. Clinton lost in states President Obama won twice.

Deep down..........I know her campaign plan came up short in Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Florida.

No BODY is saying abandon.."gays, people of color, women, economically depressed, economically repressed and fucking BATHROOMS...." none of us cogent "motherfuckers" believe Russia rigged the election(I'm not sure what you mean by "rigged&quot . President Obama says no...he says with way more info than us...it's what it is.

Are you calling into question his view and info from his sources?

We lost...we lick our wounds.....we regroup and don't let it happen again.

[LaydeeBug]

12. Welcome to DU...cogent motherfuckers know Obama is trapped between

Being a statesman and his legacy. Sorry if that's hard for you to take. While we're at it, cogent motherfuckers know that 55,000 votes total are all they needed to delete, suppress, steal.

Cogent motherfuckers ALSO recognize that the Courts told the KGB/GOP to stop their antics this election cycle. They did not. When a rabid dog is biting you, and the judge tells the owner not to sick the rabid dog on you anymore, you don't just "lick your wounds and move on"...you get to the bottom on the fact that they ignored Court's orders.

But pretend some more.

[Nancyswidower]

20. "They did not."....do you have reports from polling places that the KGB was present?

Or KGB/GOP hindered voting...ANYthing you can source to buttress your claims?
I know you are a suppression fan....but the turn out was bigger than '12...just not in the right places.

I'm pissed we lost also....but we lost...not because of the KGB, not because of the FBI, not because of JPR, not because of DNC, or MSNBC.....we lost because the freak got more votes in the swing states than Hillary did...simple as that. Obama won them twice.....Hillary failed to carry them.
That's on her...NOT the KGB or any other alphabet entity.

[3catwoman3]

5. "People of color had to wash their hands in front of a witness...

...in order to put a mic on him. No one said a word."

How the hell was this hushed up? I do not remember hearing word one about this.

[Nancyswidower]

8. It wasn't "hushed"......I'll just stop there. Perpetualy "pissed" leads to accusations. Just sayin'

[LaydeeBug]

13. Yes it was. It came right around "Grab them by the pussy", or didn't that happen either?

Derp derp derp

[Nancyswidower]

22. "Derp derp derp"...that and a dollar will still get Muscrathead as POTUS elect....

Your rants aren't going to change that and your refusal to lay blame where it lies....the old saying.."Denial is not a river...."

It's what it is...focus on this whooping or move forward and make sure it doesn't happen again.
Hillary is NOT going to be POTUS...just not going to happen. I'm come to terms with that....it sucks but it's a fact for the next 4 yrs.

Tater head beat us....now is the time to concentrate on the '18 mids....we took a whooping in the past 2....ignoring trends and blaming the Russians will not get us the Senate or House

[LaydeeBug]

33. Except that the experts agree with ME, derp, derp, derp and not you, derp derp

Derp.

Sorry that the cogent motherfuckers tend to lean towards facts instead of burying their heads in the sand.

[Nancyswidower]

34. Nobody agrees with you.....POTUS..Obama doesn't agree with you.

There is ZERO evidence any expert agrees with you.....

I get you are pissed....that and 3 Derps....still President Elect tater head will be taking the OoO in January....your rant's will not change that....

[LaydeeBug]

35. The derp derp derp continues...they don't?

too bad your sense of spite doesn't get ameliorated by a simple google search:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/activists-urge-hillary-clinton-to-challenge-election-results.html

[mythology]

29. It wasn't limited to people of color

https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/trump-called-mic-guy-fucking-monkey

In spite of the url, the guy called a fucking monkey in this article was white, it was more about relative position rather than a racist taunt. My guess is Trump doesn't like being touched by those he deems beneath him, but he's also a germaphobe.

This article from 2011 talks about his hatred of shaking hands:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2011/02/does_donald_trump_have_a_glad-.html

I think claiming that any refusal to shake hands being racist isn't supported. There are plenty of other ways to support that claim which are more grounded in what Trump has done like his properties being fined for not renting to blacks, his referral to "his blacks" etc.

[FBaggins]

6. The people who had the dirt on Trump didn't WANT him to lose the primary

That's why they held fire until he was the nominee

[Nancyswidower]

10. Yep.....exactly. They were salivating for a Trumpanzee nomination.

Unfortunately the tactic failed....
I've never understood that deal at a National Level....pick on the slow kid in the class....Dumpster in this case...you piss off the others in the desks close to him/her....in this case Rust Belt voters that felt ignored by Sec.Clinton.

[kcr]

14. Hey, everyone!

Here's a great idea! Let's listen to the kind of people who compare Trump to "the slow kids in class" for political advice!

[LaydeeBug]

17. We can worry about the 'slow kids in class' and whether they're offended

When we can insure there's even a classroom for the class to be in, or a teacher to teach it.

We have to fight the propaganda wars against them.

[kcr]

21. Here's a clue. Trump isn't like "the slow kid in class"

He's more like the kids who bully them if we're doing the classroom analogy. You can call me "pc" if it makes you feel better. Speaking of not caring about offending, I really don't give a shit about offending anyone when it comes to this. I'm tired of comparisons like this. I'm really getting tired of the autism comparisons, too, while we're at it.

[Nancyswidower]

24. So...the tater head bullied all the Swing state voters that had gone Obama the last 2 cycles?

You can't be saying that his voters in the Swings are bullied by this window licker with a muskrat on his head elect....if that's the deal.........we're frigged...if we are that "soft" that being bullied is a thing...enough to make enough to go Trumpanzee in the swing states.. or not vote....it's game over for a generation...they will bully every election.....if that works
How about just admitting....it was her, it wasn't the 100% deal we were told it was.

She and her campaign structure lost....to a snot gobbler.
The sooner we come to grips with this FACT the sooner we can fix it.

[Nancyswidower]

23. Wow...that went over your head.....interesting...

[Cracklin Charlie]

7. That was fantastic!

You expressed my feelings exactly.

I quit watching ALL of those shows years ago, and I will never go there again. I am sorry to say that I hold the corporate television media directly responsible for the election of an illiterate, obnoxious buffoon to the presidency. They had the opportunity to stop this disaster, and they wouldnt do it. They have done a serious disservice to their country. Shame on them!

I get the feeling they got him elected to help them sell advertising. Well, there is a way to affect that...Stop Watching, Now!

I can't even stand looking at them anymore, anyway. Trump, neither.

[LaydeeBug]

15. I don't hold corporate tv media responsible...I hold their puppet masters to account

Russia dictated our headlines.

[Cracklin Charlie]

16. Who allowed them to dictate?

Who are the puppet masters?

Who normalized this most abnormal of candidates?

[LaydeeBug]

18. Oh, and OMG, THANK YOU!!!! Nt

[Achilleaze]

9. KGB/GOP

There you have it.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

19. Maybe the Russians ultimately rigged it in some way, BUT...

... are we going to assume they also rigged multiple polls from multiple sources that indicated this election was close in the first place?

What blows my mind is that Trump won the GOP primary and later he was within 20% of Clinton in polls! This election shouldn't have been close without much of the country being mentally ill (in my opinion)!

[radalpha]

26. The election wasn't lost, it was stolen.

Despite Hillary Clinton's limitations as a candidate and the manipulation of the primary process to disadvantage Bernie, the presidential vote was still nearly 3 million in favor of HRC. An Electoral loss, not a popular loss. While the GOP was quieting purging the voter rolls to create an Electoral win, the Dems ignored the deception.

Now there is discussion and efforts toward recount and validation, yet the "Crosscheck Program" (a program create to purge the rolls of voters without recourse) is hardly mentioned, despite the fact that millions of votes may have been destroyed. Far more than enough to steal the election for Trump. Greg Palast predicted this months ahead of the actual vote but went largely ignored to our detriment.

Greg Palast Report

This is certainly worthy of a read and should be taken into account by the auditors.

[LaydeeBug]

32. Dems did not ignore deception...the Courts ORDERED the KGB/GOP to stop

Their suppression tactics, and they just ignored the Court's orders.

[Fielg]

27. Right On

You are 100% correct. DU going down was a coup so no one could report all of the fraud going on. We need a revolution until they make the elected president and all the senators that did not win.

All the governors who control voting should be imprisoned - Scott Walker first.Put them in a cell together.

[jfern]

28. It wasn't Russia.

[DemonGoddess]

30. K&R!

[jmg257]

31. Damn Russians...they are so crafty! And bringing DU down to cover it all?! Fuckers. nt

[jalan48]

36. Voter suppression in key states.