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Nasty Jack

(350 posts)
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 04:44 PM Nov 2016

There's hope-a duo of predictions for Donald Trump's resignation or impeachment


Michael Moore was right when he predicted Donald Trump could win last July. But this is what he said on Huff Post re. Trump's staying power: “Here’s what’s going to happen, this is why we’re not going to have to suffer through four years of Donald J. Trump, because he has no ideology except the ideology of Donald J. Trump." What have we seen that the President-elect has either said or advocated that wasn't connected to the well-being of Donald Trump? Nothing.

Interestingly enough, Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University in Washington, D.C., also forecasted the win. But, then, he has predicted nine consecutive presidential election results based on a model he created that consists of 13 factors. He doesn't believe in polls and kicks sand at all the data mining fanatics that depend entirely on numbers. At the same time. Lichtman also felt that Donald Trump would be impeached.

Nate Silver's 538 Blog, which has called several presidential elections correctly, picked Hillary Clinton for a win right up to Nov. 8, 71.4% to Trump's 28.6%. Others foresaw the actual outcome which you can see here. Allan Lichtman had 13 true false statements but Michael More decided based on just 5 reasons. They are:

Midwest Math, or Welcome to Our Rust Belt Brexit; The Last Stand of the Angry White Man; The Hillary Problem; The Depressed Sanders Vote; and The Jesse Ventura Effect.

Each is an interesting look at election psychology, and you can read them here.

Could Donald Trump surprise us all and turn out to be a fine, upstanding President? But, with very limited thought, little chance.

Passionate & Progressive

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There's hope-a duo of predictions for Donald Trump's resignation or impeachment (Original Post) Nasty Jack Nov 2016 OP
The thought of a... Mike Nelson Nov 2016 #1
But do you see Pence behaving like this? MFM008 Nov 2016 #2
This. SaschaHM Nov 2016 #4
Pence and... Mike Nelson Nov 2016 #11
With republican congress and senate, who is going to impeach him? LisaL Nov 2016 #3
They will..... Txbluedog Nov 2016 #5
I am not holding my breath. LisaL Nov 2016 #6
I'm not so sure.... SaschaHM Nov 2016 #7
Oh they're going to wait until the mid terms ATLEAST Txbluedog Nov 2016 #8
Yep. Republicans in congress/senate might not like Trump, but they are not going to do anything LisaL Nov 2016 #9
No. NastyRiffraff Nov 2016 #10
they wont impeach him as long as his supporters continue to support him JI7 Nov 2016 #12

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
1. The thought of a...
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 04:50 PM
Nov 2016

...government run by Pence and the others doesn't make me feel any better about Trump leaving office.

MFM008

(19,776 posts)
2. But do you see Pence behaving like this?
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:11 PM
Nov 2016

He may be a poor hating bigot but hes a "standard" republican, like Ryan.
Not that special kinds of crazy the maggot has.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
4. This.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:20 PM
Nov 2016

We are going to have a fairly conservative republican government. Does it have to be completely corrupt and inept as well? Mike Pence for his many faults isn't going to base his presidency off of grudges and flattery like Herr Trump.

And to be fair, Trump's need for adulation may work in our favor from time to time. I'm skeptical that he is going to go all in on Ryan's plans for medicare/social security because he (and his base) hates Ryan and touching healthcare can become a double edged sword.

Mike Nelson

(9,903 posts)
11. Pence and...
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:40 AM
Nov 2016

...Trump's team are unacceptable, to me. I suppose if might be better if Pence fired them all and put "normal" conservative Republicans in charge. They would behave more nicely in public. Still, I see them as all cut from the same cloth. Pence's competence might even help dismantling FDR's America, reversing LGBT rights, putting people of color "in their place" and "cherishing" women who dress nice and look pretty.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
5. They will.....
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:21 PM
Nov 2016

Once he doesn't play be their rules. Do not mistake their using him to liking him

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
7. I'm not so sure....
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:27 PM
Nov 2016

They still have to contend with Trump's base, who will feel that they've been slighted by Washington insiders and have been willing to give Trump a pass. They know that he's a corrupt sexual predator. He would have to lose them before the house/senate republicans could touch him without suffering at the ballot box and that's going to be tough.

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
8. Oh they're going to wait until the mid terms ATLEAST
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:29 PM
Nov 2016

But if he starts tanking in popularity due to their policies they'll make him the fall guy, especially if 2020 reelection appears to be problematic

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
9. Yep. Republicans in congress/senate might not like Trump, but they are not going to do anything
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:30 PM
Nov 2016

because that would piss off your average Trump voter.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
10. No.
Sun Nov 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Nov 2016

That's the answer to "Could Donald Trump surprise us all and turn out to be a fine, upstanding President?"

No way. He's been a snake all his life, after 70 years he's not going to grow legs and arms and stand upright.

JI7

(89,172 posts)
12. they wont impeach him as long as his supporters continue to support him
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 05:52 AM
Nov 2016

those supporters of his who make up a large part of the republican party are the reason they were so reluctant to criticize him in the primary and GE .

but if they were to turn on him i can maybe see them doing it.

but the problem i see is that if his base starts to question he will pick out some minority groups and go after them which will in turn get his base excited to back him completely.

and the republicans who are afraid of losing any support will go along.

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