2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary has moved on.
So should we.
Get you a good book and enjoy the holidays.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-bookstore/index.html
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)but we have not.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,123 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I don't blame her. It's time. Besides any challenge wasn't going to go anywhere.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Be a great mom and grandma!
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)vengeance is much more satisfying if it is not exacted immediately.
BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)she will continue to do everything she can to help vulnerable people no matter who or where they are. In many ways, she may now be freer to do so than if she would have been President.
But Trump will NEVER be my President and I will never use that title for him. Ever.
theglammistress
(348 posts)I feel exactly the same. You have expressed how I feel 100%.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)still_one
(92,454 posts)can go **** itself, because that is what it just did
liberalnarb
(4,532 posts)The country got fucked by the Electoral College, an outdated system that should be abolished. 2 million more Americans voted for Hillary than voted for Trump. Don't trash the country, the majority of us didn't vote for the orange cretin.
still_one
(92,454 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)still_one
(92,454 posts)tested, and it failed miserably
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still_one
(92,454 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,979 posts)Oh, those who voted for tRump for nefarious reasons (racists), or those who knew he was a POS and stll voted for him because they hated her, and those who weren't knowledgeable about who trump is (dumb & believing he'd bring jobs back) will suffer and won't be able to do much about it. And still some who voted for tRump will never ride or die with him because they're just damn stupid. However, I hate that many of us out here will have to suffer through 4-8 years and beyond of this latest government coup of this rigged election pulled off with the help of our OWN government (FBI), and with the help from this government's buddies, the Russians.
Finally, I have friends who are Bernie supporters who I've spoken to post-the election rig who actually think that Bernie would have won the election--beaten tRump to a pulp--and yes, they voted for Hillary and weren't like some Bernie voters who voted for Stein or Johnson. Not like those who were HAPPY to see tRump winning who are now having the audacity to say "I told you so." However, if they don't think that the election wouldn't have been rigged against Bernie also, then I got a bridge .....
Again I say, it wouldn't have mattered WHO the Dems had running. IF this election was rigged (which all the evidence is pointing to it being a rigged election), not even BERNIE would have beaten tRump. No way for him nor Hillary to win, especially since they would have been going up against extremely powerful political machines IE: Their own government (FBI), political opponents (GOP and voter disenfranchisement/voter suppression), and against our own government's NEW buddy Russia, who was riding shot gun and doing the rigging via cyber-hacking. When explained to my Bernie friends like that they ALL to a person have said something along the lines of....
"Never mind."
still_one
(92,454 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,374 posts)The same "rigging" would have worked against ANY D.
But the fact is that Hillary will still likely have TWO MILLION+ more votes than Trump and I do not believe that ANY other Dem would have done as well. Trump did not "win" - he and the GOP cheated.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)It just shows you how misogynist and naive those supporters are.
He wouldn't have won a single state with maybe the exception of Vermont. Michael Bloomberg would have entered the race, and we would have President Bloomberg, and not this batshit crazy orangutan impersonator.
His Marxist-leaning writings and interviews would have sunk him. And yes, he IS a Marxist, NOT a "socialist."
GWC58
(2,678 posts)Okay, now that that's been said all I have to say is; America you voted for the bull. Now bend over, you're about to get horned up the...!!😨😳😱😫
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grossproffit
(5,591 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)When it was up to us, we failed.
The election is over.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)When things seem to be going too fast.
http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/thank-you-for-being-late/
lapucelle
(18,361 posts)She's taken punch after punch for women of my generation, only to get up and fight again.
I take some comfort that I am on the right side of history and will never have to deny my part in the protracted virtual slut shaming of the first woman who dared and succeeded, only to be cheated by the officious asses who would not allow it to happen.
Hillary has my vote AND Hillary has my heart.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)This was for many of us our last, best hope - the most qualified and experienced candidate - period.
I want her to have the grace and dignity to finish this as she sees fit.
Not more screaming and berating and bashing.
The election is over.
lapucelle
(18,361 posts)Even if the electoral college were to flip, I don't think that Hillary would accept the office based on a recount because of the damage it would do to our newly fragile democracy.
I still admire Al Gore for his selfless act of patriotism in accepting the Supreme Court's somewhat dubious ruling in 2000. I'll let history be the judge of whether the 2016 election and the events that led up to Hillary's electoral college defeat reflect a fair contest or something else entirely.
As for me, I spent weekends far from home in a swing state registering voters, canvassing for Democratic candidates, and helping the working poor devise plans that would actually get them to the polls to exercise their franchise. I feel proud of Hillary's great efforts and my small role. No revisionist history for us.
Dr. Mullion Blasto
(104 posts)This will stay with her, haunt her all her life. It must be resolved.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)For a long time.
The election is over.
athena
(4,187 posts)This is about our democracy and making sure that the people's votes are what determine the outcome of elections. I am certain that Hillary knows this. If she cared more for herself than for her country, she would never have run for president -- not even once, let alone twice.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)Looking at that picture, I wish I could jump into it and give Hillary a great big hug.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Not going to do that~
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Hillary supporters are not big on speculation and innuendo.
We've seen thirty years of it.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)we can do it
(12,205 posts)we can do it
(12,205 posts)I'd bet she'd step up if needed.