2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI personally think that Hillary is still up 7-10
Based on the following factors:
1: Polls consistently undersample people of color - given the massive margins Trump is losing POC by, this is significant.
2: Many GOP women, or women married to GOP men, are unwilling to openly express support for Clinton with the man in earshot. Even if it works in a "Press 1 for Hillary, press 2 for Trump" fashion, the anxiety is still there.
3: Trump's ground game and organization has been so bad that we could see up to 1-2% of voters show up at the polls and get turned away because the campaign didn't get them to register, however, they will still show up in likely voter screens. In contrast, Hillary's GOTV operation may squeeze an extra 1-2% from voters not considered "likely".
4: The math doesn't add up. How is Trump underperforming Romney in every group aside from no college whites and yet appears to be overperforming him nationally? A lot of these polls have to be predicting absolutely historic white male turnout and margins for this to work (think 2004 demos with 75-80% white males for Trump)
Just remember that Obama overperformed polling averages by about 3 points in 2012.
Joe941
(2,848 posts)piechartking
(617 posts)In NC, FL, OH and NV.
Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)Early voting in FL and NC seem to be supportive of this hypothesis.
I love the sentiment. I want 60% of pop vote and 350 EV. I'm greedy.
Hokie
(4,286 posts)She will top 400 EV. That would be a blowout.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)And if Trump's ceiling really is right around 40, then most of those "3rd" party folks are either going to not vote at all or they're going to vote for Clinton.
What blows me away is that there people who are supposedly still "undecided." How the f**k can a person still be undecided? Between Clinton and Stein maybe. Or between Trump and Johnson. But between Clinton and Trump?!?
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)Most of the Stein voters have come home. The Johnson voters are also melting away, though how many of them vote Hillary? If Weld can shift a Senate seat or two, then he'll be a hero.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Some of them will no doubt vote for Clinton without realizing that right wing libertarians (as opposed to Chomsky libertarians) are really just anti-government extremists who happen to not take extremist positions on some social issues.
Johnson's global warming comment (about how the sun will one day engulf Earth anyway) might be my favorite of this entire campaign.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)based on outliers is your first clue that Hillary is doing just fine right now.
Their Comeygate gambit failed, and they've run out of time to effect the election. All the trends and measures are predicting a landslide victory and a tsunami of a blue wave.
The media loves their fake horserace, and they will ride it into Tuesday morning. They will then trip over each pivoting as quickly as they can to the reality of Hillary's victory, which they will try to downplay as not being a mandate, etc.
I've stopped watching the news. It's 95% bullshit. They think we're all stupid.
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)worried about the Senate.
forjusticethunders
(1,151 posts)Remember, we need 50, not 51, with Kaine as the tiebreaker.
rock
(13,218 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Chasing Dreams
(415 posts)And nothing I've seen since the Comey Hurricane suggests otherwise. Look at the real turnout data from Nevada, Florida, Texas, and Arizona. Ipsos +8 pretty close to what will happen:
Clinton 50
Asshole 42
Johnson 5
Stein 2
Others 1
Hillary 350+ EVs
52 D Senate seats
Within 15 of House majority