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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHallie Jackson just asked the ultimate question...
she asked a panelist (I didn't catch the woman's name, but she was a Repub for Trump, I believe) what was more important:
Individual loyalty to Trump, or loyalty to Repub party values.
Now I would argue that loyalty to the country and constitution should out-weigh both of those, but...at the heart of authoritarian systems is the idea of individual loyalty to the leader and not to the country or to abstracts like "rule of law" or "constitutional law." It is no coincidence that Hitler (I know, Godwin's Law ) had all the officers and soldiers in the German armed forces swear an oath to him, personally. That kind of shit had more weight in Europe with it's history of feudalism, but the heart of that system was, of course, a complex system of individual fealty of lords and local barons to other royalty. In many ways, Fascism is a modernized, corporatised feudal system in which national interests are seconded to "individual" desires of the corporate class.
Remember, when Deep Throat (google Watergate) came out, the attacks from douche bags like Ollie North were about his being a "traitor" to Nixon and that cabal, with no considerations of national or constitutional loyalty.
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Hallie Jackson just asked the ultimate question... (Original Post)
Wounded Bear
Oct 2016
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djsunyc
(169 posts)1. question
that will be sidestepped while being deflected to hillary
btw, hallie jackson is my wife in another universe.
randome
(34,845 posts)2. She WAS but she just left you for me. Sorry to break it to you like this.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]
Wounded Bear
(58,726 posts)3. She's lovely, true...
but I love her for her smarts.
randome
(34,845 posts)4. Nothing wrong with being lovely on two fronts!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You have to play the game to find out why you're playing the game. -Existenz[/center][/font][hr]