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coco77

(1,327 posts)
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:04 AM Jul 2016

Should I vote for Hillary ..

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because she is a woman? Should i vote because of her policies?

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Should I vote for Hillary .. (Original Post) coco77 Jul 2016 OP
...... sufrommich Jul 2016 #1
Same alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #19
You should vote for her because she is a Democrat... BooScout Jul 2016 #2
^^THIS^^^^^ TexasProgresive Jul 2016 #8
Is the same question ask when the candidate is a man? Thinkingabout Jul 2016 #3
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #5
Bullshit. "Many" Hillary supporters have said no such thing. sufrommich Jul 2016 #10
Would you admit to "some"? Jim Lane Jul 2016 #11
Oh my God,someone dared to mention that a female president sufrommich Jul 2016 #13
thank you mercuryblues Jul 2016 #30
I used to hire people. Ceteris paribus I always hired the minority applicant. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #17
No more and no less than than arguments against her gender has been made.. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #24
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #12
It is always good to have posters descend from Mount Olympus to... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #18
Not sure there is a good reason to vote "for" her. Dawgs Jul 2016 #4
How does your post fulfill the mission The Administrator has given to our august board? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #9
How about voting for criminal justice reform? Maeve Jul 2016 #15
You should vote your conscience rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #6
smh leftofcool Jul 2016 #7
Flip a coin. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #14
.. Cha Jul 2016 #22
I think coco77 has lost interest. That was very rude to ask for advice, and then ... NurseJackie Jul 2016 #31
That poster was zapped. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #32
I know, right.. Cha Jul 2016 #33
You should vote for her because auntpurl Jul 2016 #16
You should vote for her if you think she is the candidate bigwillq Jul 2016 #20
You should vote for her because she's the most qualified candidate EVER to run for the office. baldguy Jul 2016 #21
Why? Can you not chew gum and walk at the same time? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #23
I think JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #26
Seven blessings to us La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #25
You might just want to vote for Trump because of his self proclaimed big Johnson. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #28
Jesus. nt LexVegas Jul 2016 #29
Vote for your cartoon image of her frazzled Jul 2016 #34
Thank you UtahLib Jul 2016 #35
White privilege is a plague upon our land. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #36
That's all folks! FSogol Jul 2016 #37

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
1. ......
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:06 AM
Jul 2016
 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. Same
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jul 2016

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
2. You should vote for her because she is a Democrat...
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jul 2016

And the most qualified person to be president.

TexasProgresive

(12,164 posts)
8. ^^THIS^^^^^
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jul 2016

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. Is the same question ask when the candidate is a man?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jul 2016

I am voting for Hillary because she is the most qualified candidate running and I agree with her agenda, she has proven herself over and over.

Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #3)

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
10. Bullshit. "Many" Hillary supporters have said no such thing.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:19 AM
Jul 2016

This is as odious as right wingers claiming that black people voted for Obama because he's black. Go back to JPR if you want to trash our nominee.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. Would you admit to "some"?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:37 AM
Jul 2016

The difference between "some" and "many" is subjective, so even if we put in the effort to through DU and all the rest of the media to tabulate mentions, we couldn't resolve the issue. Any fair-minded person must admit that the argument from gender has been made, and not just very rarely by a few crackpots as outliers that were negligible in the larger context. We can start with Madeleine Albright.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
13. Oh my God,someone dared to mention that a female president
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:48 AM
Jul 2016

would be a historical first the the U.S.? How dare they! I'm so fucking done with this argument that acknowledging this is somehow admitting that "you're only voting for her because she's a woman". Guess what? It matters and it matters because half the fucking country is female. Anyone who believes that we would also be just as willing to vote for Sarah Palin as we would for Hillary because she's a woman is a moron. It's as moronic as believing that black people would be just as willing to vote for Herman Cain as they were for Obama.

I get it,you'd like to diminish the fact that this is a big fucking deal,tough shit,this is a big fucking deal.

mercuryblues

(14,556 posts)
30. thank you
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:01 AM
Jul 2016

I am also sick of it. It is saying women are too stupid to look at her policies and only vote based on sex. If that was the case, we would have had a female president a long time ago.

Repeating that tripe is demeaning as hell. It is irritating to have to go down the list as to why you are voting for her. It comes across as a test that only women have to submit to. I have never heard that a white man is voting for a candidate because they are also a white male. Men are not asked or presumed to be voting for Clinton because she is a woman. Because of their gender it is assumed that they have looked at her policies and how she plans to implement them.

If anything Clinton will lose votes because she is a woman. Sam B. interviewed a couple who aren't voting for Clinton because they don't think a woman should be president. Odd how that is never mentioned. But the false meme that women are voting for her based solely on sex gets tossed out regularly.

Oh and yeah. I have told people that I am voting for her because she is a woman. Just to piss 'em off. I feel no need to submit to a test justifying my voting decisions to anyone. over and over again. It is like playing whack-a-mole. A pop quiz on the same subject several times a day. Never had to justify my support for any white male candidate.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
17. I used to hire people. Ceteris paribus I always hired the minority applicant.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jul 2016

I do the same when I vote.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. No more and no less than than arguments against her gender has been made..
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jul 2016

"must admit that the argument from gender has been made..."

No more and no less than than arguments against her gender has been made... and "not just very rarely by a few crackpots as outliers that were negligible in the larger context."

Response to Post removed (Reply #5)

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
18. It is always good to have posters descend from Mount Olympus to...
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jul 2016

It is always good to have posters descend from Mount Olympus to instruct us plebeians how to conduct ourselves.

On behalf of plebeians everywhere thank you.

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
4. Not sure there is a good reason to vote "for" her.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:08 AM
Jul 2016

Voting against Trump is the best I can come up with.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
9. How does your post fulfill the mission The Administrator has given to our august board?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:18 AM
Jul 2016

How does your post fulfill the mission The Administrator has given to our august board:




"Not sure there is a good reason to vote "for"... her..."

-Dawgs







We are Democrats and we are all Clinton supporters now

http://www.democraticunderground.com/~Skinner



Thank you in advance.

Maeve

(42,309 posts)
15. How about voting for criminal justice reform?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:50 AM
Jul 2016

Protecting the right to vote? Protecting immigrant rights? Supporting the protection of the environment? LGBTQ rights? Keeping the national park system? Supporting our NATO allies? Actually keeping the promises we made our vets?

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
6. You should vote your conscience
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:10 AM
Jul 2016

right after checking your privilege.

And because unless you are a rich straight white man, you'd be voting your own best interests.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
7. smh
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:11 AM
Jul 2016

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. Flip a coin.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:49 AM
Jul 2016

Cha

(298,021 posts)
22. ..
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jul 2016
make it easy.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. I think coco77 has lost interest. That was very rude to ask for advice, and then ...
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jul 2016

... not even bother to respond or thank those who have offered their ideas.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
32. That poster was zapped.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jul 2016

Why this thread still stands is beyond me.

Cha

(298,021 posts)
33. I know, right..
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jul 2016

I was going to mention MIA but decided against it.. but really.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
16. You should vote for her because
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jul 2016

AAs, Latinos, Muslims, LGBT, women, the disabled, the working poor, and the poor and homeless will suffer under a Trump presidency. They will be supported and celebrated under a Hillary presidency. If that is not enough reason for you, then we don't have much in common.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
20. You should vote for her if you think she is the candidate
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:04 AM
Jul 2016

Who can better lead this country. You should vote for her if you think she believes in the things you believe in. Your vote, your choice.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
21. You should vote for her because she's the most qualified candidate EVER to run for the office.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:07 AM
Jul 2016

If you haven't realized that at this late date, you're hopeless.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
23. Why? Can you not chew gum and walk at the same time?
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:26 AM
Jul 2016

JustAnotherGen

(32,027 posts)
26. I think
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jul 2016

OP was ppr'd?

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
27. Seven blessings to us
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:32 AM
Jul 2016

Response to coco77 (Original post)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. You might just want to vote for Trump because of his self proclaimed big Johnson.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:34 AM
Jul 2016

Or you can just vote for Johnson so you can giggle with your friend about it.

WTF

LexVegas

(6,121 posts)
29. Jesus. nt
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jul 2016

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
34. Vote for your cartoon image of her
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 11:40 AM
Jul 2016

Because it's clear you haven't been listening to a thing that would explain why her lifelong successful work for progressive causes across a wide range of issues, her humanity, her experience, or her work ethic would be a reason for you to vote for her

Me, I'll vote for the real Hillary Clinton, not the cartoon version that either the right or the self-proclaimed "be right but never manage to DO right" left has promoted.

This kind of thread makes me madder than a hornet.

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
35. Thank you
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 12:26 PM
Jul 2016

Even when mad, you were able to succinctly state the case for voting for Hillary.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,719 posts)
36. White privilege is a plague upon our land.
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Jul 2016

We will not be whole until that scourge is removed.

FSogol

(45,582 posts)
37. That's all folks!
Wed Jul 27, 2016, 07:06 PM
Jul 2016
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