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[geek tragedy]

1. already posted multiple times.

the primary is over, people need to get the fuck over it

[MynameisBlarney]

11. Got over DWS being crooked and toxic to the party?

No. Not ever.

[geek tragedy]

15. She's out as DNC chief. Move on nt

[MynameisBlarney]

17. No fucking shit.

She needs to be out of the Democratic party. She's poison.

Chief.

[geek tragedy]

20. she IS OUT already. You got your pound of flesh. You collected your scalp.

There's nothing more to accomplish along these lines. It's just toxic vengeance-seeking at this point.

[awake]

30. Then why is she speaking today?

DWS is no longer helping Hillary, she is hurting her, she need to go away NOW for the good of the party and for Hillary!!!!!

[geek tragedy]

31. I agree she needs to disappear for the remainder of the week.

But that's a separate issue from "Hillary is oppressing me because she didn't burn DWS at the stake" type of crap coming from the Jill Stein crowd.

[awake]

38. I am with her and this is the last thing Hillary needs

Hillary did not need DWS finger on the scale and now DWS own ego can not see the harm that she is doing to Hillary and the party

[major debacle]

69. Well, appartently Hillary doesn't see it, either...

What does that say about her?

[MynameisBlarney]

60. You are being just a weee a bit divisive

You seem to be concluding that because some folks are extremely displeased with DWS still being involved with HRC and her campaign, at whatever capacity that we're going to vote for Stein.

[virtualobserver]

61. slight difference between not burning her at the stake and making her the honorary chair............

..of her campaign.

[geek tragedy]

66. she's not the honorary chair of the campaign

it's some bullshit about being in charge of the 50 state strategy.

it's a face-saving move.

but the grievance hoarders are peddling fauxtrage precisely because there's not enough humiliation to satisfy their impulse to punish and harm

[virtualobserver]

79. So humiliating to be welcomed to a place of honor in Hillary's campaign, LOL

“There’s simply no one better at taking the fight to the Republicans than Debbie,” Clinton said, “which is why I am glad that she has agreed to serve as honorary chair of my campaign’s 50-state program to gain ground and elect Democrats in every part of the country, and will continue to serve as a surrogate for my campaign nationally, in Florida, and in other key states.”

[geek tragedy]

80. she was publicly forced to resign her position.

that's humiliation

But, not enough for those with a psychological need to see their opponents suffer

[virtualobserver]

83. "forced" by the way she ran the DNC....now honored by Hillary

[geek tragedy]

90. DWS is a long-time protege of Clinton.

Their ties go back well before the 2008 election.

Not one of Clinton's better choices.

[adigal]

67. I don't know the first thing about Jill Stein. No interest in her.

But Hillary is really stupid for doing this.

[geek tragedy]

72. she can't placate the usual grievance mongers.

nothing but withdrawing from the race and giving the nomination to Sanders would satisfy them.

It's people who haven't processed their hurt fee-fees over the primary whining about this.

[babylonsister]

34. You really should place the blame where it deserves to go,

and that would be the DNC and DWS, NOT any poster here.

[geek tragedy]

36. DWS is leaving her position. I think she should leave now and

hide from the cameras.

That doesn't justify people bashing Clinton because they didn't get to humiliate DWS enough for to satisfy their psychological craving for revenge.

[babylonsister]

43. Actually, she herself said

we will be seeing her daily through November, so I don't know if she'll be leaving or not. I agree with you, she should. And she has earned the humiliation, it's not just some desire put forth by people who don't like or agree with her.

[MynameisBlarney]

45. Just HOW is she out of the party?

This is NOT vengeance seeking, it's wanting to better our chances for victory in November.

Why do you have a problem with that?

[geek tragedy]

47. This isn't the Catholic Church where ex-communication is a possibility.

She is out of the party leadership. She is facing a primary challenger.

You don't have the right to demand that she be ex-communicated.

The primary is over. People need to get the fuck over it. If they don't, they will not be coddled.

[MynameisBlarney]

50. Could you be more condescending? I'm thinking you can.

DWS is bad news for the party.
Bad news for HRC's campaign.

Why do you keep telling me the primary is over? Do you think I don't fucking know that?

[geek tragedy]

52. DWS is out as DNC chair, but that's not good enough for you

hoarding grievances isn't healthy

[MynameisBlarney]

56. What in the actual fuck? Don't be obtuse.

For the umpteenth fucking time.
This is about wanting our party to win in Nov, not "hoarding grievances".

[Surya Gayatri]

58. Who the hell anointed you Pope of the Party, able to excommunicate apostates?

As if DWS, serving as ceremonial head of HRC's 50-State Outreach, will be the deciding factor in bitter-enders' choice?

Bullshit. A big stinking pile.

[MynameisBlarney]

63. Can't you see she's damaging the party?

And HRC's campaign?

I want the win in Nov. Keeping DWS around lowers the chances of that considerably IMHO.

[Surya Gayatri]

68. Whatev...your concern is showing.

[MynameisBlarney]

75. Really?

I'm a concern troll now?

That's fucking bullshit.

[annavictorious]

62. You want to throw DWS out of the Democratic party because two of her staffers exchanged an email?

Did you want to throw Sanders out of the party when two of his staffers stole data?

[MynameisBlarney]

73. Are you actually serious?

An email?

One?

[annavictorious]

86. Of course I'm serious.

There was one email in which two staffers kicked around a very bad talking point that was never implemented. That's your case. What else is there?

A reference to DWS calling Jeff Weaver an ass and an email from Jake Tapper fishing for dirt. (The DNC communication person didn't bite, and responded with a reference to...Ted Cruz.)

That's it. Those are the explosive revelations from the explosive emails.

Sounds to me like Rapey Julian ate somebody's lunch.

[MynameisBlarney]

87. Just one you say?

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/23/us/politics/dnc-emails-sanders-clinton.html?_r=0

[kacekwl]

77. If she is out why

is she speaking ?

[Chasstev365]

13. Just Admit what DWS and the DNC did was wrong and we'll get over it

By you will NEVER admit it, right?

[geek tragedy]

14. DWS deserved to be fired for any number of reasons, her conduct regarding the primary being amongst

them

[annavictorious]

51. What did DWS and the DNC do?

Out of 20,000 emails released, there was one in which two staffers discussed a really terrible talking point that was never implemented and another in which DWS called Jeff Weaver a a liar and an ass after he accused her of running an illegal slush fund.

Were you equally as outraged when two Sanders staffers stole data? Did you blame their boss? Did you hold Tad Devine or Jeff Weaver responsible and demand their resignations?

Of course you didn't. The two Sanders staffers who committed an actual crime (as opposed to the thought crime committed by the two DNC staffers) resigned, and we all moved on. Did you blame Sanders? Did you point to a culture of corruption and dirty tricks in his campaign? Did you want Further Steps Taken? No.

It seems to me that the agenda at this point is to wreck the convention. Why on earth would Democrats want to do such a thing?

[jonno99]

55. ? DWS is not a "staffer", she was the HEAD - she was IN CHARGE. nt

[annavictorious]

89. DWs was not a party to the email.

You have read the actual email, right? It was between two staffers. DWS wasn't even cc'd. And their ridiculous talking point was never implemented.

Sanders was in charge when two of his staffers stole data in February. Did you demand that he drop out of the race?

Here's the explosive email for anyone posting who has not actually read it.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7643

[Chasstev365]

82. You're missing the Forest from the Trees

She presided over a Primary Process that, not just favored one candidate over another, rather, it actively tried to undermine another. That is Nixonian.

If you think that's just dandy, you have no ethics or sense of fairness. Explain to me why DWS working to under cut Bernie Sanders was OK!

[annavictorious]

78. Who's we?

Who are you speaking for?

I suggest we do the same thing that we did after the data theft in February. Hold the two parties who did it responsible and move on.

The two DNC staffers who kicked around a very stupid talking point that was never implemented should be held responsible for the thought crime that they committed. And DWS shouldn't have called Jeff Weaver an ass, even though he might be one and even though it was her reaction to Weaver accusing her of a crime.

Yes, I'll admit that it was wrong to think think bad thoughts and call someone an ass.

Now keep your side of the bargain, and get over it.

[liberal N proud]

19. Just like the primaries - this negativity gets posted over and over

Everyone who opposes Hillary thinks they have to post it again and it has to be posted in every forum.

They think if you read it enough times you will be brainwashed and sympathetic to their cause. And at this point, I only see one cause they can be pushing for and I will not participate in that.

[geek tragedy]

23. Some people think the primary is still going on.

Getting their last kicks in before they go vote for Jill Stein.

[liberal N proud]

40. And they took it to the streets of Philly this morning

How fucking brilliant was that?

[kacekwl]

84. Enough with the Jill Stein shit

Is DWS ego so big she can't see she is of no help going forward ?

[geek tragedy]

88. As a Clinton supporter, I think DWS should spend the next two weeks

at a private, secluded location with her family.

[awake]

32. This has to do with the damage DWS is still doing by hanging around this week

[liberal N proud]

37. As compared to the damage the Bernie supporters are doing protesting in the streets

People still holding on to some fantasy that they are going to change things, then we could have two angry white guys running?

[awake]

42. WAKE UP and stop trashing Bernie and his supporters

This has nothing to do with the BS marchers "In The Street" that the media is hyping this has to do with Hillary's convention and how that will look on tv today if DWS shows up. If DWS shows up the press will play it all week and that becomes the story not Hillary!!!!

[liberal N proud]

46. You were complaining about damage to the party

I don't see how riots in the streets of Philly by those that can't give up a primary loss is helping Party Image.

You were the one making it about the party. The media is having a field day on the protest and the fact that they are BS supporters.

[MynameisBlarney]

48. Thank you!

DWS' continued involvement in this election on whatever level will do nothing but damage our chances to beat trump.

DWS is Typhoid Mary.

[Surya Gayatri]

59. "I SEE BULLSHIT..." ~ Jon Stewart

This has nothing to do with the BS marchers "In The Street" that the media is hyping...

[adigal]

64. She is accused of favoritism so Hillary gives her an honorary spot???

As my 22 year old very savvy daughter asked me, " Is Hillary trying to lose? Because it sure seems like she is."

And don't even get us started on the anti-semitism/anti-atheism.

[geek tragedy]

71. I see a lot of people who hate Hillary latching onto this as their grievance du jour

And DWS is not someone who would condone anti-Semitism.

The primary is over it. The people still nursing their grievances over having lost a primary election need to grow up.

[adigal]

85. I don't like Hillary as our nominee, mostly because she is the status quo

In a year with many angry voters. And I know many women terrified of Trump who also say they will NEVER vote for Hillary. And I don't like her VP pick, because I think she is centrist and so is he.

As a strong woman myself, I respect her greatly for her accomplishments. She never backed down, like they made Michelle Obama do, and she never took the safe route.

I just fear she can't win.

[RandySF]

2. They stuck her in a corner where she can do no more damage

[leftofcool]

3. Oh FFS! Just stop. This has been posted umpteen times

You do know what "honorary" means right?

[glennward]

5. Do they even know what "loyalty" means? nt

[leftofcool]

9. Obviously not I guess.

[avaistheone1]

44. Loyalty?!!!

How about loyalty to democratic principles such as fairness? Having Debbie Wasserman Schultz placed as "honorary" Clinton campaign share shows that the Clinton campaign does not understand honor.

[MynameisBlarney]

10. Geeeez, didn't see anything on the homepage about it.

Excuse the fuck out of me.

And yes, I do know what honorary means. Do you know what toxic means?

DWS needs to be shunned. Hillary should not have anything to do with her. And quite frankly, neither should the Democratic Party.

[leftofcool]

27. How about we just cut off her head and serve it up?

Will that help you? If you do a search besides what is on the front page you will find at least 50 posts about this.

[MynameisBlarney]

53. Oh for fucks sake

That is totally over the top bullshit right there.

Again, excuse the fuck out of me.

[Darb]

4. What tone exactly can't she hear?

The "I'll cut my nose off, I swear, I will cut my nose off" tone?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. This is so unseemly...

Just give them her head on a fucking platter... It reminds me of the movie "Dead Presidents" where the psychotic GI paraded around with the head of a Viet Cong soldier he killed on a stick.

[Darb]

12. It is pathetic. The primaries were bad enough, but now I gotta say,

this whiney shit is pure gold for Rump. Pure gold. He loves it.

I am pushing back. The whiners already hid one of my posts but it is gonna take way more than that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I am apoplectic.

It is as if some have who now have her head on a platter want to ---- ---- it.

I was never a fan of her but I never hated her guts. My enmity is always directed at the Republicans where it belongs.

[Darb]

21. You and me both. The bernies have jumped the shark.

I swear, I cannot tell the difference between a bernie and a Rump troll. Can you?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. Let me put it this way.

Anybody who enables Trump is my mortal enemy. Words can not begin to describe the enmity I have for them and the low esteem I hold them in.

[uponit7771]

6. Nope, adults aren't going to try and please those who refused to be pleased. They'll find something

... else to boo about

[Stellar]

8. SMH

“There’s simply no one better at taking the fight to the Republicans than Debbie,” Clinton said, “which is why I am glad that she has agreed to serve as honorary chair of my campaign’s 50-state program to gain ground and elect Democrats in every part of the country, and will continue to serve as a surrogate for my campaign nationally, in Florida, and in other key states.”

[B Calm]

16. Party unity seems to be on the back burner.

[geek tragedy]

22. For some recalcitrant sore loser whiners, yes they have put party unity

on the backburner due to their all-consuming hatred of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and grievances over the primaries.

Those people need to grow the fuck up and realize the primary is over and the real task at hand is not banishing Debbie Wasserman-Schultz from public life.

[B Calm]

25. Nice spin.

[geek tragedy]

29. In general, I find that the people throwing temper tantrums over

trivial bullshit are not interested in unity and rather are seeking an excuse to act out their anger.

[Darb]

33. What?

Not getting through to the toddlers? They want their bankey. You better give it to them.

[Darb]

24. I think you mean.....

I"LL CUT MY NOSE OFF!!!! I SWEAR, I WILL CUT OFF MY NOSE.

[Tatiana]

26. She certainly failed to "take the fight" to Republicans Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen.

So there's that...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24478039.html

[Stellar]

65. Damn shame!

They're booing her oss now...

Bedlam erupts as Wasserman Schultz speaks to Florida delegates!

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/chaos-erupts-as-wasserman-schultz-speaks-to-florida-delegates-226113?cmpid=sf#ixzz4FQWt70PW

[Raster]

35. Just helping out her main gurl for the leg-up during the primary!

[Todays_Illusion]

39. Seriously are we blaming Putin and Trump for what was in the DNC emails? nt

[avaistheone1]

54. Yup that's what its about.

It always someone else fault with this crowd.

[leftofcool]

57. Oh no of course not. Let Russia hack any US emails they want to right?

[Renaissance Man]

74. Should those e-mails even exist?

Perhaps, maybe the DNC should do weekly briefings on its bylaws with its staff, so they'll be smarter about the e-mails that their staff sends, so as to ensure that they won't break its bylaws.

Yes. Putin and Assange are assholes, but if those e-mails didn't exist, there would be no dust up over them.

[B Calm]

76. +1 Exactly

[treestar]

81. I know! Could not believe that post!

Some of these people have to be Republicans, they just have to!

[YouDig]

41. It is tone-deaf. Hillary has a personal relationship with DWS, she thinks she's doing

the right thing. And she may be right. But the stakes are too high for personal loyalty and acts of kindness. If they mess this up, we end up with Trump.

The Clintons can pay her back for her loyalty in other ways. Get her consulting gigs. Get her on corporate boards. Get her kids into Harvard. But she needs to disappear from the campaign and the DNC.

[lapfog_1]

49. either tone deaf or utter arrogance

in any event an unforced error.

[Tatiana]

70. I'd go with arrogance. n/t