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Veepstakes Not Over: Tim Kaine, Other VP Frontrunners Get Invitations To Speak At Conventionby Ryan Grim at the Huffinton Post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/veepstakes-not-over-tim-kaine-other-vp-frontrunners-get-invitations-to-speak-at-convention_us_57864704e4b08608d3325156?section=
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WASHINGTON ― Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) were invited Tuesday to speak at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, sources familiar with the planning of the event told The Huffington Post.
The news is significant because of a report that same day from The New York Times saying that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) had been given a prime speaking slot for Tuesday night of the convention. Its a good place to be, but its not the vice presidential nominees spot, and the report immediately raised suspicion that Warren had been ruled out by the Clinton campaign for the No. 2 spot, with the Times calling it an apparent sign that Senator Elizabeth Warren will not be named Hillary Clintons running mate. The Clinton campaign has repeatedly said no VP decision has been made and that Warren is under consideration.
That invites also went out to Kaine, Booker and Becerra, top prospects as well, reinforces that the decision has yet to be made. Cabinet secretaries such as Tom Perez, who have also been floated, have been told by the White House they cant speak at the convention.
No matter what slot a politician is scheduled for, sources said, they can quickly be moved if they are named VP.
Selecting Warren, who is broadly popular among Democratic voters, is seen by some inside the Clinton campaign as a way to excite the base and drive turnout. Warren could also help Clinton find the base of support shell need to govern. President Barack Obama has implemented a series of progressive initiatives the past two years and, as a result, the Democratic base has rallied around him, which has driven up his approval rating and helped him govern.
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lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Florencenj2point0
(435 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)LonePirate
(13,441 posts)I much prefer Becerra to Kaine; but it just feels to me like Kaine is going to be picked.
longship
(40,416 posts)We desparately need her in the US Senate.
Plus, her predecessor in the Senate in arguably the most liberal state in the nation, the guy who replaced Ted Fucking Kennedy, was Republican. And BTW, that same state now has a Republican governor.
Nope to Warren as VEEP. We need her where she is, which she also agrees with.
Just no!
book_worm
(15,951 posts)then why would she waste time being vetted? She could just take herself out of the run or if it is offered to her turn it down. The thing is if I didn't want it I wouldn't go thru all the hassle of being vetted.
longship
(40,416 posts)And VEEP would be a significant reduction in her power.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Obviously Elizabeth doesn't feel that way....otherwise she wouldn't have allowed herself to be vetted in the first place.
longship
(40,416 posts)That would be a big no no even if one has no intentions.
Still it allows one to say no.
There are many of us who wish Warren will stay in the US Senate where she can do some real good. What about VEEP powers do you not understand?
Granted, it is a problem which needs to be resolved. But if I were Warren, I would respectfully say no.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Think of it this way: When you're vetted, you go through the interview process, turn over your financials etc etc.
Would you really waste someone's time if you had absolutely no interest in the job?
I can understand why you prefer Elizabeth staying in the Senate...but she's definitely interested in the VP position.
longship
(40,416 posts)Why would she surrender the power she has as senator?
I wouldn't if I were her.
But, who knows?
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Those two had alot of influence as far as VPs go.
Imo, the VP is as powerful as the President allows them to be.
You can only assume that IF Elizabeth is chosen (and accepts), she'll have some really power.
longship
(40,416 posts)Less so as VEEP.
That's my stand and I am sticking to it.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)substantially and she would be replaced in the Senate by another Democrat, who would be 1 of 50 votes. I am bumfuzzled at those who imagine she would consider moving to any position where she would lose power. Her interest in being VP is a HUGE clue.
PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)Yep. It seems obvious to me.
People have their own views about the VP position and are projecting those views onto Sen Warren.
longship
(40,416 posts)VEEP only gets to vote on a tie. A Senator gets to vote on any vote.
VEEP gets to preside. So do senators on a daily basis.
VEEP cannot hold the floor. Any senator can do that.
Seems like less power to me.
Oh! Almost forgot. VEEP gets to go to funerals as surrogate for POTUS. Apparently that's where the power lies.
glennward
(989 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)It was my interpretation of her words that she wanted to stay in the Senate. I kind of like her there, too.
VEEP has less senate power than a seated senator.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)That's a big no-no in MA.
That said, I agree that Warren is better off in the Senate.
okasha
(11,573 posts)of bright, shiny objects to distract the media. I also think some of the "VP" prospects may actually be under consideration for Cabinet or judicial posts.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)LiberalFighter
(51,349 posts)Both the rookies and the experts like Chris Matthews.
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,186 posts)Is it kosher to post concerns about Bernie holdouts?
Read and don't comment if it rankles.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/how-bernie-sanders-supporters-are-planning-to-shake-up-the-democratic-convention/
OnDoutside
(19,986 posts)Just to make a useless point.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Get ready.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,186 posts)"I get really irritated when I hear Donald Trump say, 'Let's make America great again,'" Vilsack said in an Associated Press interview. "I look at it and I think, wait a second, I started out life in an orphanage. I didn't have a last name. ... America gave me this opportunity to go from that beginning to sitting in the White House in the Cabinet Room with the president of the United States."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-vilsack-a-rise-from-orphanage-to-cabinet-secretary/
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Everyone keeps looking at the speaking schedule for telltale clues ... but it's really not a reliable barometer, is it?
Her Sister
(6,444 posts)Just one person will be the VP pick. And all of them will probably get a speaking slot at the convention. They know people are taking cues from the speaking slots & they are not ready to announce yet. So paying attention to the speaking times is probably a waste of time & effort when it comes to determining the VP.
Gosh, I think I got circular there!