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applegrove

(118,912 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 07:18 PM Jul 2016

Veepstakes Not Over: Tim Kaine, Other VP Frontrunners Get Invitations To Speak At Convention

Veepstakes Not Over: Tim Kaine, Other VP Frontrunners Get Invitations To Speak At Convention

by Ryan Grim at the Huffinton Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/veepstakes-not-over-tim-kaine-other-vp-frontrunners-get-invitations-to-speak-at-convention_us_57864704e4b08608d3325156?section=

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WASHINGTON ― Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) and Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.) were invited Tuesday to speak at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, sources familiar with the planning of the event told The Huffington Post.

The news is significant because of a report that same day from The New York Times saying that Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) had been given a prime speaking slot for Tuesday night of the convention. It’s a good place to be, but it’s not the vice presidential nominee’s spot, and the report immediately raised suspicion that Warren had been ruled out by the Clinton campaign for the No. 2 spot, with the Times calling it “an apparent sign that Senator Elizabeth Warren will not be named Hillary Clinton’s running mate.” The Clinton campaign has repeatedly said no VP decision has been made and that Warren is under consideration.

That invites also went out to Kaine, Booker and Becerra, top prospects as well, reinforces that the decision has yet to be made. Cabinet secretaries such as Tom Perez, who have also been floated, have been told by the White House they can’t speak at the convention.

No matter what slot a politician is scheduled for, sources said, they can quickly be moved if they are named VP.

Selecting Warren, who is broadly popular among Democratic voters, is seen by some inside the Clinton campaign as a way to excite the base and drive turnout. Warren could also help Clinton find the base of support she’ll need to govern. President Barack Obama has implemented a series of progressive initiatives the past two years and, as a result, the Democratic base has rallied around him, which has driven up his approval rating and helped him govern.


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Veepstakes Not Over: Tim Kaine, Other VP Frontrunners Get Invitations To Speak At Convention (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2016 OP
Oh, no...I was really rooting for Xavier Becerra lunamagica Jul 2016 #1
Read this diary at dkos and take heart Florencenj2point0 Jul 2016 #17
Thank you! Keeping fingers crossed! lunamagica Jul 2016 #18
Kaine is a fluent Spanish speaker so those appearances are likely for him. LonePirate Jul 2016 #26
Please, please not Warren. longship Jul 2016 #2
Then don't worry if she agrees that she should stay in the senate book_worm Jul 2016 #4
Because she is a helluva US Senator. That's why. longship Jul 2016 #5
"And VEEP would be a significant reduction in her power." PragmaticLiberal Jul 2016 #7
One does not refuse to be vetted. longship Jul 2016 #8
You most certainly can refuse to be vetted....especially if you have no genuine interest in the job. PragmaticLiberal Jul 2016 #10
God, I hope not. longship Jul 2016 #12
Look at Biden or even Cheney (yeah, I know lol) PragmaticLiberal Jul 2016 #14
She has real power as a US Senator. longship Jul 2016 #16
Obviously she doesn't. It would increase her power Hortensis Jul 2016 #9
"Her interest in being VP is a HUGE clue." PragmaticLiberal Jul 2016 #11
Let's see. longship Jul 2016 #15
Because there is always 2020. Either as VP or P. Being veetted now is a good thing for the future. glennward Jul 2016 #20
Well, I will support her if she wants VEEP. longship Jul 2016 #30
Scott Brown isn't coming back. He carpetbagged to NH and tried to run there. Arkana Jul 2016 #29
I think Hillary is tossing out handfuls okasha Jul 2016 #3
Absolutely. morningfog Jul 2016 #6
And most of the media don't have a clue about what is happening with this. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #13
Hahaha! Awesome! Her Sister Jul 2016 #23
I'm nervous about those holding HRC hostage at the convention. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2016 #19
I'd be more concerned about the Nina Turner types, making asses of themselves at the convention. OnDoutside Jul 2016 #25
I'd like to thnk after watching the Trump shit-show, they would know better. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #27
VP will be Vilsack oberliner Jul 2016 #21
Smart choice - immediately counters so much Trump bunk SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2016 #28
"No matter what slot a politician is scheduled for, sources said, they can quickly be moved..." NurseJackie Jul 2016 #22
Yes, so right! Not all the candidates can be the VP pick! Her Sister Jul 2016 #24

LonePirate

(13,441 posts)
26. Kaine is a fluent Spanish speaker so those appearances are likely for him.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

I much prefer Becerra to Kaine; but it just feels to me like Kaine is going to be picked.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. Please, please not Warren.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:33 PM
Jul 2016

We desparately need her in the US Senate.

Plus, her predecessor in the Senate in arguably the most liberal state in the nation, the guy who replaced Ted Fucking Kennedy, was Republican. And BTW, that same state now has a Republican governor.

Nope to Warren as VEEP. We need her where she is, which she also agrees with.

Just no!

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
4. Then don't worry if she agrees that she should stay in the senate
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:51 PM
Jul 2016

then why would she waste time being vetted? She could just take herself out of the run or if it is offered to her turn it down. The thing is if I didn't want it I wouldn't go thru all the hassle of being vetted.

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Because she is a helluva US Senator. That's why.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:17 PM
Jul 2016

And VEEP would be a significant reduction in her power.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
7. "And VEEP would be a significant reduction in her power."
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jul 2016

Obviously Elizabeth doesn't feel that way....otherwise she wouldn't have allowed herself to be vetted in the first place.

longship

(40,416 posts)
8. One does not refuse to be vetted.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:54 AM
Jul 2016

That would be a big no no even if one has no intentions.

Still it allows one to say no.

There are many of us who wish Warren will stay in the US Senate where she can do some real good. What about VEEP powers do you not understand?

Granted, it is a problem which needs to be resolved. But if I were Warren, I would respectfully say no.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
10. You most certainly can refuse to be vetted....especially if you have no genuine interest in the job.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:20 AM
Jul 2016

Think of it this way: When you're vetted, you go through the interview process, turn over your financials etc etc.

Would you really waste someone's time if you had absolutely no interest in the job?


I can understand why you prefer Elizabeth staying in the Senate...but she's definitely interested in the VP position.

longship

(40,416 posts)
12. God, I hope not.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:24 AM
Jul 2016

Why would she surrender the power she has as senator?

I wouldn't if I were her.

But, who knows?

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
14. Look at Biden or even Cheney (yeah, I know lol)
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jul 2016

Those two had alot of influence as far as VPs go.

Imo, the VP is as powerful as the President allows them to be.

You can only assume that IF Elizabeth is chosen (and accepts), she'll have some really power.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Obviously she doesn't. It would increase her power
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jul 2016

substantially and she would be replaced in the Senate by another Democrat, who would be 1 of 50 votes. I am bumfuzzled at those who imagine she would consider moving to any position where she would lose power. Her interest in being VP is a HUGE clue.

PragmaticLiberal

(904 posts)
11. "Her interest in being VP is a HUGE clue."
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jul 2016

Yep. It seems obvious to me.

People have their own views about the VP position and are projecting those views onto Sen Warren.

longship

(40,416 posts)
15. Let's see.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jul 2016

VEEP only gets to vote on a tie. A Senator gets to vote on any vote.

VEEP gets to preside. So do senators on a daily basis.

VEEP cannot hold the floor. Any senator can do that.

Seems like less power to me.

Oh! Almost forgot. VEEP gets to go to funerals as surrogate for POTUS. Apparently that's where the power lies.

 

glennward

(989 posts)
20. Because there is always 2020. Either as VP or P. Being veetted now is a good thing for the future.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 07:31 AM
Jul 2016

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. Well, I will support her if she wants VEEP.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jul 2016

It was my interpretation of her words that she wanted to stay in the Senate. I kind of like her there, too.

VEEP has less senate power than a seated senator.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
29. Scott Brown isn't coming back. He carpetbagged to NH and tried to run there.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 04:15 PM
Jul 2016

That's a big no-no in MA.

That said, I agree that Warren is better off in the Senate.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
3. I think Hillary is tossing out handfuls
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 08:35 PM
Jul 2016

of bright, shiny objects to distract the media. I also think some of the "VP" prospects may actually be under consideration for Cabinet or judicial posts.

LiberalFighter

(51,349 posts)
13. And most of the media don't have a clue about what is happening with this.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:26 AM
Jul 2016

Both the rookies and the experts like Chris Matthews.

OnDoutside

(19,986 posts)
25. I'd be more concerned about the Nina Turner types, making asses of themselves at the convention.
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jul 2016

Just to make a useless point.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,186 posts)
28. Smart choice - immediately counters so much Trump bunk
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 04:13 PM
Jul 2016
"I get really irritated when I hear Donald Trump say, 'Let's make America great again,'" Vilsack said in an Associated Press interview. "I look at it and I think, wait a second, I started out life in an orphanage. I didn't have a last name. ... America gave me this opportunity to go from that beginning to sitting in the White House in the Cabinet Room with the president of the United States."


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tom-vilsack-a-rise-from-orphanage-to-cabinet-secretary/

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
22. "No matter what slot a politician is scheduled for, sources said, they can quickly be moved..."
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:22 AM
Jul 2016

Everyone keeps looking at the speaking schedule for telltale clues ... but it's really not a reliable barometer, is it?

 

Her Sister

(6,444 posts)
24. Yes, so right! Not all the candidates can be the VP pick!
Wed Jul 20, 2016, 08:31 AM
Jul 2016

Just one person will be the VP pick. And all of them will probably get a speaking slot at the convention. They know people are taking cues from the speaking slots & they are not ready to announce yet. So paying attention to the speaking times is probably a waste of time & effort when it comes to determining the VP.

Gosh, I think I got circular there!

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