A thread for apologies.

[retrowire]

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So, you all know me as an avid Bernie supporter.

And I just wanted to make it known that I still stand with Bernie and the political revolution he started. I won't beat around the bushes here...

I still have trust issues with Hillary. I still feel a sting from how my views and actions have been cast aside and insulted during the primary.

But I also understand that I was passionate as well and I lashed out at others.

The point is, now that Bernie has endorsed Hillary, I want it to be known that I have every intention to follow his lead. I don't have the luxury to allow a Trump presidency and I won't sit comfortably by while risking a nation of emboldened bigots being proven right, that they can legitimately step on the rights of my neighbors of minorities.

Essentially, if Hillary wins, the Bernie's Political Revolution still has a platform.

If Trump wins, then we lose it all. Not only will we be halted, but we'll be backtracked a long ways.

So... To get to it, I'm sorry to the Hillary Supporters that I may have offended during the primary season.

If we are progressives, then let us progress.

If anyone else wants to stand up and apologize, (and this is all in the interest of unity, we've been pretty brutal), then step on up and make amends.

Stand together, right? Let's continue onward.

DISCLAIMER: This apology reflects my opinion and my opinion alone. I am representing no other party, site or forum.

[FSogol]

1. Well said. GOTV, DU.

[retrowire]

3. if i were ever an asshole to you

I'm sorry.

[FSogol]

7. We argued a few times, but I never took personal offense. Glad you're still with us.

We have lots of work to do before November.

[retrowire]

8. okay. let's do this then. nt

[Agschmid]

2. Thank you, we were all very passionate this year but we must defeat Trump!

[retrowire]

5. pretty certain I was an asshole to you once

I'm sorry.

[Agschmid]

53. I'm over it, and don't remember it.

So don't worry about it.

[MFM008]

4. I must have offended someone

i got tossed from the Bernie group.




I thank Senator Sanders for his classy endorsement
He is a man of his word and will have valued input into this campaign.
He has already.

[retrowire]

6. i dont recognize your username

But if I've ever been rude to you, I'm sorry.

[AllyCat]

87. I got tossed from the HRC group

for asking a question. So we are both in the banned lists. Even during GE, I am out of the discussion. And I'm not an into it fave kind of person. I have no sway over Bernie forum, but sorry your voice is silenced too.

[hamsterjill]

9. Thank you.

I believe we had a couple of tiffs, but you should know that I respect anyone's right to disagree as long as that person respects my right to do the same.

I applaud your post, and I am glad that you understand what *I* (personally) believe is at stake in this election.

Stronger TOGETHER!

[retrowire]

13. I'm sorry for the squabbles. looking forward towards this platform! nt

[hamsterjill]

44. We're good!

I'm sorry, too. Now, we're going to kick some Trump butt.

[Haveadream]

10. Yes, standing together!

Thank you for the gracious sentiment. Elections and campaigns can be really difficult and sometimes bring out the best and worst of us. You are right; it is critical that Dems work together and never forget that our similarities are greater than our differences.We have a lot of progress to make and a huge amount of conservative policy to undo. We desperately need to be united in that goal to stave off attacks from the GOP. The Clinton and Sanders coalition of Democrats is unbeatable. Stronger together!

[blm]

11. I voted Sanders to move WH leftward. I think he helped do exactly that.

I have no problem supporting HRC at this point, and acknowledged that some months ago, especially when another great goal of mine is to see the utter demise of the GOP as it exists today.

FWIW - Both sides had their silly days - I was banned by both groups for daring to express dismay at unnecessarily divisive use of RW talking points and careless exaggerations.

When your activism shifts to GOTV your patience for divisiveness wears thin pretty damn fast.

Welcome to GOTV. It matters - every election.

[Armstead]

12. I'd apologize for some of my excesses but.....

I'll probably still be an asshole on occasion.

[retrowire]

14. doesn't hurt to apologize anyway!

I'm sorry if I were a dick to you.

[elleng]

31. not that I recall, Armstead.

[cstanleytech]

64. "I'll probably still be an asshole on occasion."

Anyone who isnt one on occasion is usually heavily medicated.

[OKNancy]

75. I've always thought you were one of the more thoughtful Bernie people

You didn't bash the Clinton supporters like so many others did ( that I ever saw anyway)

I understood some of the Bernie people praising their guy or slamming Clinton, but some of the nasty words to the supporters of Hillary were hard to take. It made me have hate in my heart.

[Nye Bevan]

15. Sorry I worried openly about Bernie running third-party.

I should have trusted that he would do the right thing in the end.

[auntpurl]

16. I don't think we've ever had a run in

but thank you for your gracious OP and of course I apologise if I've ever offended anyone. I strive to be always civil, but I don't always live up to my own ideals. I hope Bernie supporters throughout this primary season knew me (if they knew me at all!) as a polite Hillary supporter who was willing to engage in discussion about issues.

I think this endorsement comes at a great moment (although I do admit I was impatient for it!) and sets us up for a wonderful Democratic convention, in stark contrast to the other side of the aisle, which is going to be a shit show of epic proportions.

Thanks again for your nice OP.

[Maru Kitteh]

17. This post edited after OP apparently apologized on a Hillary & Dem/DU HATE site for posting this OP

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I have no use for those who associate or surround themselves with that ilk.

I have no use for the perennial malcontents, snowflakes of privilege and the many other distasteful bed-mates-of-convenience who make up that site.

Jackass Delusionals exist for nothing, but hate. It is their sole raison d'etre.

[Amimnoch]

18. For my own part.. nothing to forgive.

Primary season is heated. Even more so on years where there will be no incumbent.

As I've said a few times during the primary season: I have much more love for a progressive political adversary during the primary season than I will ever have for someone who is indifferent or dispassionate.

Now.. on to defeating this potential international embarrassment!

[mcar]

19. Nicely said

Thank you!

[Cary]

20. Dear retrowire,

My opinion is just my opinion. Take it or leave it.

I don't recall you at all. If we crossed paths and had harsh words, you caused me no harm. I am on record as advocating vote blue no matter who. I have never said a harsh word about Sanders, although I don't see why that matters and I don't see that making me any better or any worse. "Conservatives" are the enemy and my issue with whatever you want to call that certain group of people who express hatred towards Hillary Clinton and towards Democrats is that they enable "conservatives."

"Conservatives" are evil and they aren't fit to govern.

No offense but I don't care about you or whether you trust Hillary Clinton or whatever. This isn't about you. This is about our nation. I have kids. I care about their future and I'm scared for them.

That said, if you learned something and grew that's awesome. I'm proud of you. Let's continue onward, by all means.

[retrowire]

23. oh i totally learned plenty

And I apologize if I'd ever said anything wrong to you as well.

I agree that it's not about me. And don't lie I know you care about me, just as you care for all Americans. This is our purpose in this movement to begin with.

So thank you.

[Cary]

28. You know what I meant

I think.

[retrowire]

36. i do, lol. nt

[tallahasseedem]

22. I apologize as well...

I was extremely frustrated with Bernie and probably said things out of frustration.

The fact of the matter is that we are all adults and no matter the fact that we do get hurt and lash out, we know how to come together in the end.

Unity so that we may get the platform we all want!

[CrispyQ]

24. I am sick & tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, but I'm just gonna have to be sick & tired.

Trump cannot be president. He is the epitome of everything bad about the radical right wing.

[retrowire]

26. exactly. we don't have to love it

But we should do what's best, or at least the least harmful to our fellow Americans.

[grossproffit]

25. I'd like to apologize too. I can get a bit snappy at times.

[LostOne4Ever]

27. K&R nt

[klook]

29. I for one am enjoying

Unity Day.

And I look forward to retaining the White House and regaining the Senate in November. The House is not out of reach.

Bernie's campaign, originally dismissed and derided as quixotic, has shown us that much more is possible than we might think. His endorsement of Hillary Clinton proves that he knows what's at stake and that we must all fight together for the best possible result.

I stand with Bernie. I'm in.

[63splitwindow]

30. I applaud you...

[pnwmom]

32. Thank you! Yes, let's go forward together!

[retrowire]

37. oh I KNOW we got into a scuffle

I'm sincerely sorry for that. Let's be a team.

[pnwmom]

50. I honestly don't remember, so I'm sorry for whatever part I had in it.

Happy to let bygones be bygones.

[bettyellen]

33. Wow, I'm impressed. Thank you.

[retrowire]

38. pretty certain we argued...

I'm sorry!!!

[bettyellen]

41. Yes we did- but if I recall correctly you never stooped to sexist bullshit....

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And those are basically the only people I have trouble respecting or forgiving. Admirable thread- your help is needed and greatly appreciated!

[retrowire]

45. sexist bullshit???

I cannot recall but uhh, as I learned from my wife it's better to apologize for offending someone even if you think they're wrong because you still offended them.

So I'm sorry if I did.

[bettyellen]

73. Never from you. Was disappointed to see some from people I had respected though.

That's kind of a bummer. I know some people use the net as a place to vent and that is fine, but I draw the line and don't suffer fools who stoop that low.

But we are good, thank you!

[bettyellen]

90. Stooped to, not stopped. Sorry for the confusion and my damned spellcheck.

[cstanleytech]

67. Dont you mean "stooped"?

Dont feel bad though as I do it alot as well especially on days when my vision is blurry and I am posting via my nexus 7 which has a small screen.

[bettyellen]

71. Posting on a phone while waking in NYC, lol....with a quite

Overzealous spell check to boot. Yes I meant stooped. Thanks!

[Warren DeMontague]

100. Damn, be careful

Seriously, i cant even do that walking around here

[bettyellen]

105. Thanks WDM, and never while crossing the street, lol!

[ananda]

34. Trump. Cannot. Win.

Period.

[cstanleytech]

68. Actually he can.

Most of us hope he doesnt because if he does he will make a Bush administration look down right good in comparison.

[joshcryer]

35. I would have struggled if Sanders didn't endorse.

I've spent much of this time slamming Weaver and Devine, and the Sanders we saw today is the Sanders I expected. But perhaps I underestimated him and it really required strong negotiation to get what he wanted in the platform.

A great man.

[Hortensis]

39. For those of us who aren't really all that sorry but are

happy to move on.

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[PatSeg]

40. Excellent idea for a thread

Personally I avoided DU for the most part during the primaries, at least anything election related. Too divisive for me.

I am grateful for Bernie pulling the party to the left and have no problem voting for Hillary in November. Time to focus on defeating Trump and down ballot republicans.

Thank you for this thread and no you never were rude to me.

[geek tragedy]

42. I'll match your apology with my own for being unnecessarily peevish and cynical about Bernie Sanders

and his candidacy, including the post-voting stage.

I was wrong about him, and am very happy to say that.

[retrowire]

47. you and I actually saw eye to eye throughout if I remember correctly.

Still sorry if I said something wrong.

[geek tragedy]

49. I don't recall you saying anything wrong.

I know I did.

[Surya Gayatri]

43. Thanks. You said it all here, retrowire:

Stand together, right? Let's continue onward.

Enough said. Let's move on to massacre the Toupéed Fucktrumpet.

STRONGER TOGETHER!!!!!!!

[retrowire]

46. i know we got into a spat

Sorry about that.

[Surya Gayatri]

48. It's all good. Forward. The future awaits.

P.S. If I said anything OTT, please forgive and just chalk it up to the "fog of war", LOL!

[wysi]

51. Unity day

is pretty awesome. Forward!

[NCTraveler]

52. My apologies if I have offended you throughout this process.

It has been a joy watching you find your way during this process. I don't mean finding your way to Clinton. I simply mean you have been very open about your own thoughts, on most occasions replied to posts accordingly, and made an attempt to talk issues, learn, and teach regularly.

[retrowire]

55. thanks so much. :)

I'm sorry to you. I know we've had squabbles. And I have learned. A plenty.

[sufrommich]

54. Very classy,retrowire. And I too apologize for any part

I played in the primary election nastiness. I was on the losing side in 2008 and I know how painful it can be.

[retrowire]

56. my pain happened when California was called before it was finished

I was angry, but it was then that I knew there was nothing left.

I don't feel destroyed though because a President Sanders is NOT required to achieve our goals.

[Coolest Ranger]

57. I been debating

if I wanted to come back but if you are sincere in your apology then I accept it. This place has been seriously hostile and I been MIA observing how the reaction has been around here. There's too much at stake, my rights as a gay man, the supreme court and now police brutality towards me as a black man. So let's all put this aside and work to kick Trumps behind

[retrowire]

59. you've no idea how sincere i am.

I am sorry if I were rude to you.

[NCTraveler]

77. I believe sincerity is one of the biggest reasons retro is so well liked.

[Cary]

81. Amen, but...

It is the internet. You can always walk away, and come back, and walk away. ... No worse for the wear, eh?

Aggravated sometimes, but it passes quickly.

Anyway someone once told me that I had no right to expect empathy on the internet. Sometimes you get it. But don't sweat it too much my friend. It's just not worth it.

[lillypaddle]

58. Right on

and forward.

Thanks.

[hrmjustin]

60. I apologize for my behavior during the primary. It was atrocious!

7 hides in one day shows you how low my behavior was.

My sincere apologies!

[retrowire]

118. we argued!

And I am sorry for my end of it! High fives for America! Let's keep it together.

[Squinch]

129. I disagree. I think you were, as usual, exceptionally even tempered and kind. When you

lost it, you had good reason.

[hrmjustin]

130. You are too kind.

Luckily the ones I personally called names graciously accepted my apologies.

I am limiting my posting for now to keep myself away during the silly months.

[cstanleytech]

61. "I still have trust issues with Hillary." If anyone said they trusted any politician 100%

I would be suggesting that they consider looking into some sort of treatment at a mental facility.

[aikoaiko]

62. I don't think you have anything to apologize for.

And I'm a feeling cynical and suspicious of the way some people are petting you now.

[bettyellen]

122. At least they aren't slapping and scolding him and bullying him into adding disclaimers....

[Helen Borg]

63. Mea culpa

[stupidicus]

65. call me a hardass

I'll neither offer nor accept any, and look forward to the conflicts her admin will surely result in.

[MoonRiver]

66. ...

[angrychair]

69. Good sentiment Retrowire

I think it's good to move forward. As a fellow Sanders supporter, I admire your ability to move forward. I can move past most issues but not all. Not so much specific people, though there are some, but specific issues.

All I can do at this point is hope for the best and let it go.

Thanks for the thread and I hope it makes things a little better here.

[sheshe2]

70. Thanks retrowire.

We stand together now as it makes us stronger.

Onward~

[skepticscott]

72. It's not the Clinton supporters you should be appealing to

It's the Sanders supporters who would rather see Donald Trump elected and the Republicans tighten their grip on the government than vote for Hillary. If we get a Trump presidency, that will be the reason (though they will try to throw blame on anyone else they can, just as the Nader supporters did in 2000).

[TNNurse]

80. I suspect that many of the Sanders supporters

who are unable to accept Clinton as the nominee are new to politics.

How to we get them to understand that now is the time for unity?

We should focus on the common goal of keeping Trump out of the White House.

Senator Sanders will still be part of our government and can have even more influence and help make positive changes.

They need to be helped to understand that.

How do we help them????

[skepticscott]

88. I do not get that sense, frankly

In many cases, it's not just an inability to accept Clinton, it is full-blown hatred, the kind that does not simply emerge overnight. Some of that is coming from paid Republican trolls, no doubt, but not nearly all.

[DLCWIdem]

74. Hello, I takes courage to be the 1st to step out there and apologize so kudos to you.

and I also apologize if I offended you, because I certainly believe you are entitled to your opinion.

[bluestateguy]

76. I apologize for jumping to conclusions about the Nevada convention

It was a complicated morass, and at the end of the day only a few persons were truly behaving badly.

The alleged chair throwing (or attempt to do so) was inconclusive, and at worst was only one person.

So I apologize.

[nolabear]

78. Today President Obama said "With an open heart." I believe that's the only way. Thanks.

[bonemachine]

79. Just a reminder

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"I'm sorry if I offended you" is not an apology.

Edit: apparently, I've been told the appropriate non-apology nomenclature is "I'm sorry if you are offended".

Sorry if anyone was offended by my error.

[auntpurl]

82. Sorry, but yes it is.

"I'm sorry if you were offended" is not an apology. "I'm sorry if I offended you" very much is.

[Cary]

83. It's close enough in this context, right?

[retrowire]

119. not what I said. from the op

"I'm sorry to the Hillary Supporters that I may have offended during the primary season."

If people were offended, I apologize.

To those that weren't offended... they need no apology! Lol

[bonemachine]

120. I agree that it's not what you said

It was intended to be general, not directed directly in your direction.

[retrowire]

121. ah ok nt

[calimary]

84. Thank you, retrowire!

I tried to say thanks, myself, elsewhere here and it didn't work out quite the way I'd hoped.

So I'll say it again here, then!

Thank you for being so candid here. I'm sure everybody here at one time or other said something - well, let's just call it inadvertent.

Thank you for your sincerity. I meant mine as well.

And let me say, I've been on the losing end of many campaigns, myself. I remember dressing in black and blue for work, the day after reagan won in 1980. It's a pretty miserable feeling. I'd bet everybody here has been there at the end of one primary or general election campaign or other!

You're absolutely spot-on about what's at stake. I'm so glad you're standing with us, and that I'm standing with you! Saving you a seat here right next to me!

GOOD on you, GOOD on Bernie, GOOD on all his supporters who are making that transition (as challenging as it might be) or have already done so.

We ARE stronger together. And we will keep the White House - TOGETHER. And we will renovate and salvage the Supreme Court (and maybe also the U.S. Senate) - TOGETHER. Should be a cinch. After all, there are more of us Dems than there are CONS anyway!

P.U.A.L. Party Unity At Last!

[Spitfire of ATJ]

85. Read responses with amusement.

[retrowire]

86. I honestly don't care if anyone is being genuine or not.

I don't expect that everyone is. But my efforts are sincere, and it's my actions that I'm responsible for.

In the end, I'm going to do what I'm going to do. Sincere people or not.

[ibegurpard]

89. I can certainly get behind your political choices here

But apologizing to some of the people on this board? Not a chance.

[cosmicone]

91. Bottom line -- will you now support and vote for Hillary? n/t

[retrowire]

92. This a loyalty oath in an apologies thread? Did you read the first post? nt

[cosmicone]

94. The first post did not make it clear

This is a democratic board whose raison d'etre is electing the democratic nominee,

so it was a fair question to ask. A simple answer would have sufficed ... I was not demanding a signature in blood or anything .. just a yes or no would be fine.

[retrowire]

95. From the first post.

"The point is, now that Bernie has endorsed Hillary, I want it to be known that I have every intention to follow his lead."

[cosmicone]

96. Thank you ... my apologies for missing that part. n/t

[Cary]

123. "Loyalty oath"

No one is demanding loyalty. We.want Democrats to win. Asking for your agenda is a fair question.

[retrowire]

124. demanding a "yes or no" is an aggressive and rude form of communication

Especially after it was already made clear.

[Cary]

125. I thought you were trying to be bigger than that?

You could state your intent. I didn't demand anything. I would just like to know. I think it's a fair question and no, I don't think you made it clear. Just my opinion.

And I'm not trying to be aggressive. I would like to know.

[retrowire]

127. see post 95. nt

[Cary]

126. Ok please forgive me

I see you did answer.

I had read that before. I just forgot. Sorry.

[retrowire]

128. answered your first post before seeing this

We're good and it's all cool

[MerryBlooms]

93. You probably should have read the OP before responding.

[cosmicone]

98. I should have read it carefully. Yes. n/t

[MerryBlooms]

97. Good OP. So much animosity during this primary...

it's good to see so many coming together and moving forward.

[ronnykmarshall]

99. We're united!

[Loki]

101. We are all truly in this together

For our families, for our children, for our country.

[Warren DeMontague]

102. I suspect the people who most owe the apologies, would sooner chew off their feet than give em.

And yes, there was uncalled for shit thrown from both sides.

Perhaps because of my vantage point, I saw a lot of awful crap thrown at sanders and his supporters, myself. Not just implying that sanders people were an assemblage of every vile, shambling trait in the universe, with a "bro-" suffix attached, but people calling Sanders things like a supporter-deceiving cheap rip off artist who enjoys things like "writing rape fantasy porn".

And yeah, there was nasty stuff thrown at hillary, too. And her supporters. For my part, I dont think I ever attacked HRC on anything other than issues, and i tried not to go after her supporters, although I acknowledge that I may have made the occasional snarky comment about age demographics or cultural relevance. For anything like that, I sincerely apologize.

This primary cycle was not this place's finest hour, to say the least.

I truly hope we can all move past it and unify for victory in november.

[retrowire]

106. i feel exactly the same

I never attacked her on anything but the issues.

But I was unnecessarily snarky towards some of her supporters. That's what I'm mainly apologizing for.

[Warren DeMontague]

109. It's a good OP.

You should be commended for the effort. Really, we all could do better, myself included. This primary wasn't any of our finest hour.

[Rex]

107. Their silence is how they represent themselves.

It never hurts to apologize to mostly anonymous users on a public forum. I've done it many times when I get too worked up. I am guessing things run too deep for some to patch things up.

And that is a loss, imo for the community.

[Warren DeMontague]

108. You're one of the good ones, Rex.

Don't know if I've ever told you that. Am now.

[Rex]

111. I feel the same way about you.

Yeah we talk about it a lot, two wiiiiild and crazy guys!

[Warren DeMontague]

113. old enough to get that reference, too.

My kid has started getting into SNL. I'm like "SNL? I'll give you SNL. It's not SNL if it's post Bill Murray"

[Rex]

114. Speaking of SNL, have you seen Maya and Marty?

Just a test run on NBC, but it was sometimes funnier then current SNL. HA! Yeah me to, like anything post Bill Murray is bunk. Eddie Murphy was funny, but Richard Pryor did it first and better.

Kids probably don't know who Pryor is, but they feel dated on Eddie.

I feel old.

[Warren DeMontague]

115. I have not. I barely watch anything, anymore. But I like both those guys.

if it was funny, I'll try and check it out.

[LuvLoogie]

103. Hamburger guy is sorry

[Warren DeMontague]

112. DAMMIT I WAS GONNA DO THAT

you owe me an apology for beating me to it.

[DemonGoddess]

104. K&R!

You know, I understand trust issues where politicians are concerned. Being a native Chicagoan, and voting for Rosty even though we KNEW he was crooked. You know why? He always took care of his constituents.

I'm not saying Hillary is crooked. Far from it. All politicians bend the truth at some point. All of them. Not a one of them is immune to it. But you see, that's why I feel I CAN entrust this nation to her as President. I voted for people who were known to be crooked, because they DID THEIR JOBS. Her, I voted for, because I can believe in her, and I can trust that she will do the right thing.

She's been maligned for so many years by both the right and the left it's not even funny. I remember VERY well when she first spoke of a vast right wing conspiracy against her, and everyone thought she was crazy. She wasn't.

[Martin Eden]

116. Great post, retrowire!

My feelings exactly.

I too apologize for any incivility on my part.

[Vattel]

117. You don't have much to apologize for, but it's a nice gesture.

[Squinch]

131. So, I guess this was all bullshit, then, after all.

I thought so when it was posted, but it's validating to have one's suspicions confirmed.

[retrowire]

132. What are you talking about? nt

[grossproffit]

135. There's a poster on another website using your username. eom

[retrowire]

141. Really? nt

[MoonRiver]

133. I don't have you on ignore,

so you must not have been that bad, to me at least. Thanks for the statements of unity. That's all that matters now.

[leftofcool]

134. Stronger Together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Demsrule86]

136. I self deleted because I saw your post on JPR.

[Andy823]

137. Playing games again

They come here to troll us, not to help unite. It's all a game to them.

[Maru Kitteh]

142. Nose-in-the-air, smug and comfortable privilege does that.

Immaturity and magical thinking also seem to play a part.

I've noticed many JPR members seem to be fans of CT and "mystical" type woo.

[Demsrule86]

144. Indeed and the DU Wiki thing is their weapon as well.

It won't do them any good. I would crawl across broken glass to vote for Hillary and with all the voter suppression crap by Kasich, who know I may have to!

[tallahasseedem]

139. Oh my...really?

I guess I'll do the same.

[Demsrule86]

145. He went to JPR to explain this Post...nice NT

[Andy823]

140. Do you have a link to that post

Everyone should be able to see it so they know what is going on.

[liberalnarb]

146. Yeah. I think the OP should be self deleted, as it is no longer sincere.

JPR Post:

F**k you Hillary. I trusted Bernie’s faith that you would do something with his progressive platform but choosing Tim Kaine just confirms that you’ll be playing it safe with your corporate pals on Wall St.

Hillary, I’d wish you luck but clearly you’ll cheat your way to this win too.

I think I’ll stay home. Sorry Bernie. I just can’t do it. It’s all a f**king lie anyways.

-Retrowire

[Wounded Bear]

138. Good job!

Bernie will have much to say and do if we can flip the Senate. I see him as a committee chair tormenting Repubs for years to come.

You're right, a Trump win will put progressivism back decades. I really don't want that to happen. The best revenge for what the Repubs have done the past years is to take back our government and get some things done to make people's lives better.

[Squinch]

143. Well, no. The poster has since written a "Fuck you" post to Hillary on JPR and vowed never to

vote for her, accused her of cheating, etc.

Everything else in your post is true though. Anyone not voting or voting for Trump is an idiot.