2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders is winning some big victories over the Dem platform
Greg Sargent
Washington Post
But the actual language of the latest draft has not yet been released, and it will be released as early as today. It will show a number of new provisions on Wall Street reform, infrastructure spending, and job creation that go beyond the victories that Sanders has already talked about. They suggest Sanders did far better out of this process thus far than has been previously thought. Many of these new provisions are things that Sanders has been fighting for for years.
Warren Gunnels, the chief policy adviser to the Sanders campaign, shared with me some additional details and principles the platform draft commits to:
1) Eliminating conflict of interest at the Federal Reserve by making sure that executives at financial institutions cannot serve on the board of regional Federal Reserve banks or handpick their members.
2) Banning golden parachutes for taking government jobs and cracking down on the revolving door between Wall Street and Washington.
3) Prohibiting Wall Street from picking and choosing which credit agency will rate their product.
4) Empowering the Postal Service to offer basic banking services, which makes such services available to more people throughout the country, including low-income people who lack access to checking accounts.
5) Ending the loophole that allows large profitable corporations to defer taxes on income stashed in offshore tax havens to avoid paying less taxes.
6) Using the revenue from ending that deferral loophole to rebuild infrastructure and create jobs.
To be sure, Sanders will continue to fight for more in coming weeks, such as a commitment to oppose any Congressional vote on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal during this session. And we cant be certain whether Sanders will endorse Clinton before the convention or if he is unsatisfied with the final platform product.
LexVegas
(6,121 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)based on what the platform said. It is meaningless mental masturbation.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)platforms. Then no one will criticize the items nor the lack of enactment later. Besides, someone is paying for these people to gather and work on it in multiple events and locations. Save the money and run an extra tv ad or two.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and to have Democratic delegates working on the platform committee with other Democrats.
But, no, Portlander? This is a victory OVER the Democrats?
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
TheBlackAdder
(28,261 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)But when we the people controlled the party, it was a guide.
TheBlackAdder
(28,261 posts)At one corner of the triangle are interest groups (constituencies). These are the powerful interest's groups that influence Congressional votes in their favor and can sufficiently influence the re-election of a member of Congress in return for supporting their programs. At another corner sit members of Congress who also seek to align themselves with a constituency for political and electoral support. These congressional members support legislation that advances the interest group's agenda. Occupying the third corner of the triangle are bureaucrats, who are often pressured by the same powerful interest groups their agency is designated to regulate. The result is a three-way, stable alliance that is sometimes called a sub-government because of its durability, impregnability, and power to determine policy.
An iron triangle can result in the passing of very narrow, pork-barrel policies that benefit a small segment of the population. The interests of the agency's constituency (the interest groups) are met, while the needs of consumers (which may be the general public) are passed over. That public administration may result in benefiting a small segment of the public in this way may be viewed as problematic for the popular concept of democracy if the general welfare of all citizens is sacrificed for very specific interests. This is especially so if the legislation passed neglects or reverses the original purpose for which the agency was established. Some maintain that such arrangements are consonant with (and are natural outgrowths of) the democratic process, since they frequently involve a majority block of voters implementing their will through their representatives in government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_triangle_%28US_politics%29
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Orsino
(37,428 posts)Tons of 'em showing up in Philly will be influential.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Majority rules.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Organizing is key.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)when the Clinton campaign doesn't give the go ahead on some things.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)floriduck
(2,262 posts)zenabby
(364 posts)I am actually quite tired of the righteousness here. Hillary is not choosing her position because she is afraid or not bold enough to chose Bernie's positions. She has thought them through and feels that is a better solution. The people who voted for her did not vote for her because they felt Bernie's ideas were the best but Hillary would do or because they would settle for a realistic version. They believe in Hillary's ideas. The demographic supporting Bernie and Hillary are different. Unlike 20 year olds, Hillary's supporters don't go to rallies and raise their voices. That does not mean our voices are any lower. I personally disagree with many of Bernie's ideas. My priorities based on my personal life does not align with Bernie's priorities. So, yes, they are concessions. There is no one right answer here. We are all entitled to our opinions, and the winner sets the tone/rules. The loser gets the concessions.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)zenabby
(364 posts)and I am saying these are not her ideas. She supports $15 however, she does not think it should be $15 all over at USA at the same time. There is a cost of living difference and rural Kansas is not same as Manhattan. She is not for "free tuition", she is for "affordable tuition". So if they are all the same ideas, what's even there for Bernie to fight for? Clearly there is a difference and any time she accepts something that is not her core idea, it is a concession.
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SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Bernie Sanders will never be a nominee for president in his lifetime.
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GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)What would an anti Bernie tirade be without that
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...was considered for Dodd-Frank.
Al Franken got eliminating the conflict-of-interest passed in the US Senate. Barney Frank dropped that amendment in conference.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Me thinks that might that be some wishful thinking.
GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)That was a good one
JudyM
(29,294 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)They may "say" they'll do all this stuff, but the goal is your vote for now. We've been through this before. Give'em Hell Bernie and good luck, but it will never happen now.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)andym
(5,447 posts)Why? Assuming Sanders supporters will back his positions, then the superdelegates include a few hundred progressive Democrats who do want things like single payer and high minimum wage . Probably some of the Clinton delegates will break ranks too.
Where he won't win: Israel for one.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
bigtree
(86,020 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 1, 2016, 09:02 PM - Edit history (1)
...so the endless drama from Sanders is all bullshit.
Did anyone bother to tell him that convention platforms have never been used by any president for ANYTHING?
Al Giordano ?@AlGiordano 8h8 hours ago
The party platform is non-binding on anyone. It's never been worth more than the paper it's printed on. Strange ship to go down with.
Jitter65
(3,089 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Justice
(7,188 posts)chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)most liberal in congress.
chascarrillo
(3,897 posts)So, your position is that Clinton is responsible for platform positions that she is against? How on earth does that work???
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)one settles for a can of sardines and boasts what a great meal it was.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,076 posts)LuvLoogie
(7,076 posts)is not a Constitutional Convention. It's not even a framework for legislation. Nor is it a decree or a directive.
It's like a logo. Bernie wants to add a big middle finger front and center. Democrats want a handshake. Bernie is--"Fine, as long as my hand gets to show an extended middle finger."
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