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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:34 AM Jun 2016

I am not angry at Bernie. I don't really care when he chooses to officially quit.

The primaries are over, and we on du should focus on what it will take to get the democratic nominee HRC elected.

There is no anger, I'm just over pretending that the primary is not over. It is over. She won. Let's help her win the general election.

That is all.

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I am not angry at Bernie. I don't really care when he chooses to officially quit. (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 OP
(redacted)... Rep. Geijalva endorsing Hillary and Elizabeth Warren BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #1
Nina Turner supported Cinton in 2014, she currently has no plans to vote for, let alone support geek tragedy Jun 2016 #2
Exactly right still_one Jun 2016 #6
That's gratitude for ya! And you're right - she doesn't appear to be a Democrat anymore. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #12
someone retweeted her 2014 statement, before Sanders ran. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13
You're right. She repudiated that stand when she lost the election to become SoS. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #15
I wad irritated that he was not doing what she did in 2008 La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #4
Nina Turner Tweeted #ImWithHer? Wow, that was unexpected. lunamagica Jun 2016 #7
That was 2014. Nina Turner is now a third party, Bernie-or-Bust type nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #10
No, she didn't... brooklynite Jun 2016 #11
MY MISTAKE. That was in 2014. BlueCaliDem Jun 2016 #14
Well said! JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #3
Yup. Plus most Bernie supporters have migrated over La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #9
He remains consequential....as do the beliefs of his supporters Armstead Jun 2016 #31
Best bet is to just ignore any post mentioning the loser of the primaries. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #32
That's the reality. There is no sense in fighting a battle that is over. morningfog Jun 2016 #8
Exactly; he is no simply longer relevant at this point (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #16
^ This Stuckinthebush Jun 2016 #18
Couldn't agree more, LLP. No sense looking back for the stragglers. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #17
K&R brer cat Jun 2016 #19
I somewhat agree. Focusing on concession and endorsement is beside the point. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #20
The party agenda will be controlled by the majority La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #21
"Elections matter"...to the winner the spoils. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #22
Of course you understand policy, but the platform committee is a deliberative process aikoaiko Jun 2016 #35
yes, a deliberative process that will closely reflect what the leader of the party wants La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #36
I'm not angry, KMOD Jun 2016 #23
i am not angry, but i think its best for people to acknowledge that she won, which also means her La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #24
Exactly. KMOD Jun 2016 #26
OK. Fair enough. Ken Burch Jun 2016 #25
i think its best for people to acknowledge that she won, which also means her platform won La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #27
I feel the same way.nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #28
I hear you, but frankly it pisses me off that he keeps trashing Hillary and Democrats. With Squinch Jun 2016 #29
i haven't personally paid attention to anything he has said past the DC primary La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #30
Your lack of anger... tonedevil Jun 2016 #33
i think more likely people interpret any opinions from women as being emotive and not rational La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #34
kicked Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #37
Yeah, but I could live without the treatises on how we're really angry pnwmom Jun 2016 #38
Def La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #39

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
1. (redacted)... Rep. Geijalva endorsing Hillary and Elizabeth Warren
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:16 AM - Edit history (1)

out campaigning enthusiastically with the Democratic nominee, I'm no longer angry at Sanders or his dwindling group of supporters. But I have to admit, I was before all the above happened.

But yes, with President Obama set to campaign with Hillary Clinton next week and the G.E. in full swing already, I'm happy as could be that we'll be getting another true-blue Democrat into the White House and am enthusiastically guessing along with other Democrats who will she choose as her VP running mate!

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
2. Nina Turner supported Cinton in 2014, she currently has no plans to vote for, let alone support
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016

Clinton

She's not really a Democrat anymore

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
12. That's gratitude for ya! And you're right - she doesn't appear to be a Democrat anymore.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

I also can't find her tweet where she proclaimed #ImWithHer. I recall seeing lots of hate directed at her for it while I left a tweet thanking her. Now I can't find it. Maybe she took it down to stem the hateful vitriol she was getting.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
15. You're right. She repudiated that stand when she lost the election to become SoS.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jun 2016

It appears that she's making her opposition to Hillary Clinton this presidential year a personal vendetta.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. I wad irritated that he was not doing what she did in 2008
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016

Till I saw the poll numbers. She's not really floundering now, so no reason for me to be angry. I want her to win with a giant margin and that is my focus.

brooklynite

(94,278 posts)
11. No, she didn't...
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jun 2016

....I think this refers to her INITIAL support for Clinton; she then switched to Sanders and is still with him...

Nina Turner ?@ninaturner Jun 29
Bernie Sanders: Democrats Need to Wake Up - http://NYTimes.com

True That @BernieSanders

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
14. MY MISTAKE. That was in 2014.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107171252

I guess she's gotten bitter and angry that the Clintons didn't help her win the SoS position in Ohio and she was effectively ousted from a good-paying public job.

JustAnotherGen

(31,770 posts)
3. Well said!
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jun 2016


Anger at Sanders would be fruitless - there's not point to it.

Now lets throw a big collective elbow at that awful piece of shit Trump. It's time for him to go home!


 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
9. Yup. Plus most Bernie supporters have migrated over
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

Even the kids have broken for her recently.

I don't know that he is really consequential right now.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. He remains consequential....as do the beliefs of his supporters
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:33 PM
Jun 2016

They will remain consequential during and after the election.

We'll vote for Clinton to Stop Trump and the GOP, but that does not mean blind absorption into the borg. Or, if you prefer a Dr. Who reference, we will not become Cybermen.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. Best bet is to just ignore any post mentioning the loser of the primaries.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:48 AM
Jun 2016

That way, it all goes away because the loser of the primaries is irrelevant to the GE now. That candidate's actions no longer have any effect as anybody that supported the loser of the primaries who hasn't already moved over to the nominee won't be voting for the nominee, regardless. Time to just give up on anybody like that and try to pick up more from the middle and disaffected anti-Trump Republicans by performing the standard GE pivot.

Write them off, they weren't going to vote for the Democratic nominee any way.

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #5)

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. That's the reality. There is no sense in fighting a battle that is over.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jun 2016

That goes for both Hillary and Bernie supporters. Bernie's just playing it out in his own way but it is really of no moment. Hillary is the nominee and Bernie will be behind her by the time the GE is truly underway.

Stuckinthebush

(10,835 posts)
18. ^ This
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:52 AM
Jun 2016

Every day that he refuses to concede and actively move to support the Democratic nominee is another step into irrelevancy. Current events starting with Orlando left him standing behind. His story is older and older news. Where he CAN help if he is interested in moving his message from thought to reality is to actively work with Clinton's team to promote the Democratic candidate and, by doing so, create real political capital to advance some of his agenda. The longer he waits the less he is needed by the Clinton campaign. In fact, his stock is probably close to the bottom now.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
17. Couldn't agree more, LLP. No sense looking back for the stragglers.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jun 2016

Either they'll catch up with the parade, or they won't.

Immaterial really, when Sanders decides to call it quits.

He is daily slipping further away from the center of power and influence. He has willfully exiled himself from the main arena of action.

Pity...he is sabotaging the very "political revolution" that he campaigned on.

aikoaiko

(34,153 posts)
20. I somewhat agree. Focusing on concession and endorsement is beside the point.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jun 2016

I really don't understand the HRC supporter focus on concession and endorsement.

I believe helping the Democratic party win the Whitehouse is supplemented by supporting Bernie's effort to influence the party platform right up to votes in the convention.

Bernie supporters are wiling to vote for HRC, but Bernie still speaks for many of us and outside the party who would like to see more of his agenda adopted.



 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
21. The party agenda will be controlled by the majority
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jun 2016

And the majority voted for her, so her policies will win. Despite all the propaganda, we too understand policy, and we preferred hers by a four million margin.

aikoaiko

(34,153 posts)
35. Of course you understand policy, but the platform committee is a deliberative process
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jun 2016

where minority groups may convince some or all members of the party to vote for something.

If it just supposed to be determined by Hillary there wouldn't need to be a committee or vote.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
36. yes, a deliberative process that will closely reflect what the leader of the party wants
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jun 2016

just like the 08 platform was more reflective of Obama than Clinton.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
23. I'm not angry,
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:23 PM
Jun 2016

but I admit to being a bit annoyed at their insistence that I be angry. But it's been like that since his campaign started, harassing people, attempting to intimidate people, telling people to "feel the bern".

sigh

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
24. i am not angry, but i think its best for people to acknowledge that she won, which also means her
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jun 2016

platform won, her agenda won, her policies won.

I think too many people assume that we voted for Clinton for non-policy reasons. This is both condescending and wrong.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
25. OK. Fair enough.
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jun 2016

We all know that HRC won.

Now, it's mainly about the platform(which has been a pretty good combination of things both campaigns stood for) and the way the party is run in the future, which does need to change in many ways.

I hope we can all work something good out on those points.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
27. i think its best for people to acknowledge that she won, which also means her platform won
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jun 2016

her agenda won, and her policies won.

I think too many people assume that we voted for Clinton for non-policy reasons. This is both condescending and wrong.

she won because of her platform, which will eventually be the platform democrats agree on due to her winning the primary by a large margin.

Squinch

(50,897 posts)
29. I hear you, but frankly it pisses me off that he keeps trashing Hillary and Democrats. With
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jun 2016

respect to endorsements or a concession, though, I don't think it matters what he does.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
30. i haven't personally paid attention to anything he has said past the DC primary
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 12:31 PM
Jun 2016

when the primaries ended, and he went back to being a Senator from Vermont.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
34. i think more likely people interpret any opinions from women as being emotive and not rational
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 01:03 PM
Jun 2016

i have no anger at all towards Bernie.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
38. Yeah, but I could live without the treatises on how we're really angry
Thu Jun 30, 2016, 05:19 PM
Jun 2016

because we only supported Hillary because she's a woman and Bernie got in the way of that.

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