If...

[tk2kewl]

If Romney supplants Cheeto Jesus as the GOP candidate, where does Hillary draw contrasts between herself and Mitt other than gender?

[pinebox]

1. Question of the day

She doesn't.

They are one in the same, the only difference is a letter behind their name.

[djean111]

2. You got it in one. n/t

[Metric System]

3. Spoken like a privileged straight white person.

[tk2kewl]

4. are you conceding that on economics they are one in the same?

[seabeckind]

12. No wonder they're so excited about Monday.

Won't have to drive down reality street to get anywhere.

[pinebox]

5. Uh huh sure

Meanwhile you support the candidate who is that very accusation and both embodies and embellishes it.

When in doubt, attack the poster because you can't defend Hillary's policies. It's par for the course in Hilltown.

[peace13]

15. What is odd to me..

..according to you and many here If a person doesn't care for Hill he/ she is racist, but a safe bet is that same person voted for Obama at least once and more likely twice! Your statement makes me sick! Face the facts, there are some things about Hill that you refuse to see.

As for your comment...$&ck that!

[Scootaloo]

64. You're aware that Clinton is a privileged white straight person, right?

[Metric System]

83. But her coalition of voters are diverse.

[Scootaloo]

86. Mostly straight white people there, too.

Funny thing about majorities, that way.

[840high]

89. Bingo! Bam!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Why can't I see any other posts in this thread?

[seabeckind]

11. Too much fog on d' Nile river?

Looking at the picture of Hillary and thinking it's a window?

Bubble isn't transparent?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. There is no reason to insult random strangers on an internet board, is there ?

[seabeckind]

21. You didn't look random

I thought you were serious

Aren't you glad Monday will fix all this negativity?

You'll be able to sweep out your ignore list. Won't it be grand?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Well

You didn't look random

How does one look random?

I thought you were serious

I was/wasn't

Aren't you glad Monday will fix all this negativity?

Indubitably

You'll be able to sweep out your ignore list. Won't it be grand?

It's over three hundred. It would be too much of an effort, unless there is a short cut to removing them one by one.

[seabeckind]

28. I have only 3 on mine

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I don't see any reason to clear it.

BTW, if you want to be truly random? Don't carry a sign.

(added) If you were serious about the question, read the thread without logging in. Your ignore list is in play.

Poe's Law applies in comments:

Poe's law is an internet adage which states that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, parodies of extremism are indistinguishable from sincere expressions of extremism. Poe's Law implies that parody will often be mistaken for sincere belief, and sincere beliefs for parody. (wiki)

[In_The_Wind]

7. Kickin' it!

[LiberalArkie]

8. Well one has a vagina and one has a penis. I think that is the main thing in this election.

[pinebox]

9. THREAD WIN!

[redstateblues]

65. Right up your alley

[pinebox]

91. Yes I prefer facts

over beauty contests.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. One need not be clairvoyant to divine there are people here who want the Democratic nominee to lose

[SFnomad]

13. I so look forward to tomorrow ... n/t

[Surya Gayatri]

18. Useless thread...waste of bandwidth.

[tk2kewl]

19. how so? it's a distinct possibility that she will have to deal with that exact situation

[Surya Gayatri]

22. Think again...stop the false equivalence BS.

[tk2kewl]

24. you do know that the Kochs play both sides, right?

http://americablog.com/2010/08/koch-industries-gave-funding-to-the-dlc-and-served-on-its-executive-council.html

[seabeckind]

26. Ahh, surya?

Hate to break it to you but....

that's a false equivalency.

[redstateblues]

66. Like your old pal Nader said

"Not a dimes worth of difference" yeah right. Thanks for Bush Cheney

[seabeckind]

69. So many fallacies in so few words.

Quite an accomplishment.

[seabeckind]

23. Oh no! The whole strategy is based on not-Trump!

Gonna be really hard to cancel all those contracts with the marketers, isn't it?

Even worse: what if the donors see a bigger return with a different investment?

[brush]

34. That's the s_llyest thing. Not much knowledge of political history?

No splintered party has ever won the presidency. If they yank the nomination away from Trump do you actually think his supporters will rush to support Romney, or whoever else they they try to foist on them?

Let's get our feet on the ground here. Any move like that by the repugs would strengthen Clinton's odds of winning even more than the already are.

Try rooting for the Democratic Party to win for a change.

[Lord Magus]

93. No it is NOT a distinct possibility.

This sheer idiocy of suggesting that maybe Trump won't be the Republican nominee is ludicrous.

[RoccoR5955]

100. As is the graphic that you posted. n/t

[jalan48]

20. That's why she needs Trump (Darth Vader). Kabuki politics it feels like.

[JoePhilly]

27. There there ... get it all out.

[seabeckind]

29. Such a fun thread.

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Tomorrow daddy takes the Tbird away. (ooops. Fixed)

Thanks for the ride.

[2banon]

76. !

[Hiraeth]

30. I don't think she ever tied a dog to the top of her car. She is not Mormon. She only has one child.

Different heritages and ethnic backgrounds. Different educational backgrounds.

.....

[seabeckind]

32. Same friends. n/t

[Hiraeth]

37. At that income level, I think they are called :allies:

[seabeckind]

39. Got that right.

Same result to us folks in the trenches.

[HereSince1628]

31. Hillary doesn't drive. Not with dogs on the roof, or into car elevators

[Rosa Luxemburg]

78. LOL!

[upaloopa]

33. Well certainly not from the delusion minds of Bernie supporters as this question proves

how ludicrous will it get this last day before we turn to the general here?

[tk2kewl]

35. so enlighten us

[WhiteTara]

54. Bernie still lost. nt

[tk2kewl]

58. absolutely irrelevant to this thread

[Trust Buster]

36. Uh, that would be illegal. Romney does not qualify to be on the ballot in any state.

You see what foolish things blind hatred can lead you to ?

[athena]

38. It's so comforting, isn't it,

to just believe what you want to believe? It's hard work to actually listen to people who believe differently from you and try to understand where they are coming from. Too much work for some people, apparently.

[seabeckind]

40. I thought we weren't supposed to badmouth the DNC

Monday, monday.

[tk2kewl]

41. and the distinctions between the two are?

she can still win because?

[athena]

42. Since my post appears to have been too obscure for some people,

let me put it more bluntly: if you really think that women who support Hillary support her because of her genitals, not only do you have an extremely low opinion of women's intellectual capacity, but you have not been listening to anyone who does not agree with you.

I'm sure you think it's a great idea just to believe what you want to believe, so please feel free to go on doing so. But every time you make a post like this, you will be revealing your own ignorance.

[tk2kewl]

45. i said nothing of the sort

but if you think the Clinton campaign hasn't tried to use gender as on of its primary distinguishing factors you arent paying attention.

so again, what distinguishes Clinton from Romney and how does she beat him should he get the nod?

[athena]

48. Really?

Your OP says that there is no difference between Romney and Clinton except gender. That reveals an incredible level of ignorance about Hillary's background and her stance on the issues. It also shows that you have not actually bothered to listen to all the women on DU who have tried to explain over and over that we support Clinton because she's a woman but not only because she's a woman.

I suggest you leave the Bernie-supporter echo chamber and go and take a look at Clinton's platform. Don't expect others to do the hard work of educating you when you've already made a point of showing that you refuse to make the slightest effort.

[brooklynite]

43. Pro choice, pro gay rights, pro immigration, pro progressive taxation...

"Hillary is really a Republican" is one of the laziest pat tacks I've come across

[Happyhippychick]

44. I'm happy to answer

Here are a few issues where Hillary and Mitt disagree, I agree with her view:

Abortion
Environment
Separation of church and state
2nd amendment
Gay marriage
Global warming
Obamacare
School choice
Green energy
Taxes
Citizenship
Social security

I can name more if you'd like, these are just off the top of my head.

[tk2kewl]

47. how so? I think they are extremely close on all of those issues

Hillary on...

Abortion: willing to condenser restrictions

Environment: Fracking

Church/State: A member of the family, supported "religious freedom" laws and faith based initiatives as a senateor

2nd Amendment: Slight edge to Clinton amongst those that favor gun control

Gay Marriage: Done deal

Global warming: Not sure of Romney's position but Clinton is weak. So long as Romney doesn't deny it, its a wash.

School choice: What the hell is that? A privatization, union busting idea

Green energy: Fracking

Citizenship: "I am adamantly against illegal migrants"

Social Security: Pete Peterson

[XRubicon]

49. Dunning Kruger.

You should read their famous study, it may help you.

http://www.psoriasissociety.ttsg.org/pdfs/Dunning-Kruger%20Effect.pdf

[Happyhippychick]

60. You have to know that your view of clintons positions are not so. But the question was asked and I

Answered.

[tk2kewl]

79. oh and Obamacare = Romneycare

[Happyhippychick]

81. Okay

[Lord Magus]

94. That list of "positions" you attribute to Hillary makes you a liar. -nt-

[tk2kewl]

95. if you say so.

[swhisper1]

55. Actually. on those issues, I do not see much of a distance

It is still a battle of the lesser of two evils. Hillary says she is for and against these things, but her actions and history is remarkably similar- certainly inequality and the sense of superiority over the common folk, in bed with wall street, and support of corporations. Only one is for constant war tho

[Happyhippychick]

62. I see a great distance.

[NCTraveler]

46. Not sure how one can honestly ask the question you are.

Target of $1.4M in attack ads from Planned Parenthood. (Sep 2012)
Reverse Obama regulations that threaten innocent life. (Feb 2012)
Courts added tax-paid abortions to RomneyCare; not me. (Jan 2012)
I had no litmus test for appointing judges, but I'm pro-life. (Jan 2012)
Scientifically, life begins at conception. (Jan 2012)
1990: As church leader, urged at-risk mom against abortion. (Jan 2012)
1994: Supported abortion rights but personally opposed. (Jan 2012)
Firmly pro-life; including Court nominations. (Jun 2011)
Abortion decision should recognize TWO lives involved. (Mar 2010)
OpEd: baroque circumlocutions on evolving abortion stance. (Aug 2009)
Supreme Court had said feds should stay out of abortion. (Dec 2007)
I took action as governor to preserve the sanctity of life. (Dec 2007)
No punishment for women who have partial birth abortions. (Dec 2007)
Two-step process: overturn Roe; then change hearts & minds. (Sep 2007)
Firmly in the “legal but rare” camp. (Aug 2007)
Following in Reagan’s footsteps in converting to pro-life. (Aug 2007)
Absolute good day for America when Roe v. Wade is repealed. (May 2007)
Personally pro-life, but government should not intrude. (May 2007)
Was effectively pro-choice until cloning changed his opinion. (May 2007)
Breach of Constitution for justices to adjust Constitution. (Mar 2007)
Now firmly pro-life, despite 2002 tolerance for abortion. (Dec 2006)
Anti-abortion views have “evolved & deepened” while governor. (Jul 2005)
Personally against abortion, but pro-choice as governor. (Mar 2002)
For safe, legal abortion since relative’s death from illegal. (Oct 1994)

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mitt_Romney.htm

[athena]

50. It is not an honest question.

It's just a "question" intended to get cheers from other Bernie supporters, so that they can go on pretending among themselves that Hillary is no different from Romney or any other right-wing nutcase. And, as you can see from the majority of the posts by Bernie supporters on this thread, it has achieved its purpose.

The willful blindness on this thread is really breathtaking. It's like a small group of people have decided to believe that up is down and black is white, and by repeating this among themselves ad infinitum, they are able to pretend that what they believe is the actual truth.

[NCTraveler]

108. Kicking to educate the uneducated. nt.

[MyNameGoesHere]

51. Won't be mittens. He has been branded as a loser

If it happens it will be the aw shucks, you want me to run Ryan.

[NorthCarolina]

52. Won't matter, the GE will be conducted on the basis of allegations and poo flinging. No

discussion of actual policy beliefs will be forthcoming or permitted. In other words, same 'ol, same 'ol.

[HereSince1628]

53. That might make it the first "honest' campaign in decades.

[Zynx]

56. She wants higher taxes on the wealthy, expanding the ACA, liberal justices, protecting choice,

raising the minimum wage, greater protections for unions, expanded voting rights protections, etc.

Their policy positions actually have very little overlap.

[nc4bo]

57. Good question. Hope you recever some intelligent answers. nt

[Fla Dem]

59. While your scenario is absurdity at its' best, you might want to read up on HRC's positions.

Then you do the compare and contrast if you have the courage of your convictions. I know where Hillary stands.

Full policy positions at link.

Issues
Learn more about Hillary’s vision for America, and key policies she will fight for as president. As Hillary campaigns across the country, she'll be talking about more issues—stay tuned.

Addiction and substance use
Through improved treatment, prevention, and training, we can end this quiet epidemic once and for all.

Campaign finance reform
Our democracy should work for everyone, not just the wealthy and well-connected.

Campus sexual assault
It’s not enough to condemn campus sexual assault. We need to stop campus sexual assault.

Climate change
Making America the clean energy superpower of the 21st century.

Criminal justice reform
Our criminal justice system is out of balance.

Disability rights
We must continue to expand opportunities for all Americans.

Early childhood education
Every child deserves the chance to live up to his or her God-given potential.

Fixing America’s infrastructure
Strong infrastructure is critical to a strong economy.

Gun violence prevention
It is past time we act on gun violence.

Health care
Affordable health care is a basic human right.

HIV and AIDS
We have reached a critical moment in our fight against HIV and AIDS.

Immigration reform
America needs comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to citizenship.

K–12 education
A world-class education for every child in every community.

Labor and workers’ rights
When unions are strong, America is strong.

LGBT rights and equality
Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender Americans deserve to live their lives free from discrimination.

Making college affordable and taking on student debt
The New College Compact: Costs won’t be a barrier, debt won’t hold you back.

Manufacturing
Manufacturing is critical to the U.S. economy.

National security
With policies that keep us strong and safe, America can lead the world in the 21st century.

Paid family leave
It’s time to guarantee paid family and medical leave in America.

Protecting animals and wildlife
The way our society treats animals is a reflection of our humanity.

Racial justice
America’s long struggle with race is far from finished.

Raising incomes and fighting inequality
The defining economic challenge of our time is raising incomes for hard-working Americans.

Rural communities
America’s rural communities are at the heart of what makes this country great.

Seeking a cure for Alzheimer’s disease
We can prevent, effectively treat, and make an Alzheimer’s cure possible by 2025.

Small business
Hillary Clinton will be a small business president.

Social Security and Medicare
We must preserve, protect, and strengthen these lifelines.

Veterans, the armed forces, and their families
America must fully commit to supporting veterans.

Voting rights
We should be making it easier to vote, not harder.

Wall Street reform
Wall Street must work for Main Street.

Women’s rights
Women’s issues are family issues, economic issues—and crucial to our future competitiveness.

Workforce skills and job training
Every American should be able to learn new skills in order to advance in their careers.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

[seabeckind]

67. You confuse mission statement with planning and strategy

A mission statement is basically a set of mother and apple pie statements and is absolutely worthless outside the HR orientation for new employees. Cause when the new hire heads out to the work station he needs a definitive set of procedures to follow to achieve any of those statements.

Which brings up the next point. There is nothing, not one word about how that goal is defined, eg, "Fixing America’s infrastructure, Strong infrastructure is critical to a strong economy." I have a good idea what I consider infrastructure to be, eg, Universal Broadband, but what does HRC consider infrastructure? Another lane on an urban interstate?

My broadband would provide a new structure to increase communications and commerce. The extra lane might get somebody who lives in the burb home 5 minutes faster but it would increase pollution, carbon footprint, etc.

The next question is how would that change be facilitated? Expand the monopolization that already exists in our cable and cell systems? Or turn basic communications into a utility and remove it from the stranglehold of private companies?

You see that's why your gush gallop doesn't really mean much. That particular list could just as easily be published on a republican's site and say exactly the same thing. Probably the same marketing people would write it.

[2banon]

73. Very well said...

cogent, succinct and spot on.

[Fla Dem]

84. You obviously did not click on the link as I suggested.

You bring up Infrastructure:

Fixing America's infrastructure
Strong infrastructure is critical to a strong economy.

Hillary will:
-Boost federal investment by $275 billion over the next five years.
-Create a $25 billion infrastructure bank to support critical infrastructure improvements.
-Harness public and private capital to fix and build new roads and bridges, expand public transportation, give every American access to broadband internet, and more.

“I want to use every tool we can to invest in infrastructure and build a stronger, more prosperous future.”
HILLARY, NOVEMBER 29, 2015

Hillary believes that strengthening our infrastructure is critical to boosting wages and making our economy productive and competitive. That’s why she has announced a $275 billion, 5-year plan to revitalize our nation’s bridges, roads, public transit systems, and other public works.

Hillary's plan would:
-Boost federal infrastructure investment by $275 billion over the next five years. Under Hillary’s plan, $250 billion would go directly to public infrastructure investment.

-Create a $25 billion national infrastructure bank. Hillary will allocate an additional $25 billion over five years to create an independent, government-owned infrastructure bank that will support critical infrastructure improvements. The bank will provide loans and other federal support for investments in energy, water, broadband, transportation, and multi-modal infrastructure projects.

-Reauthorize a Build America Bonds program to help finance the rebuilding of America’s infrastructure. Hillary would re-authorize President Obama’s highly successful Build America Bonds (BABs) program to stimulate billions of additional dollars in infrastructure investments.

Hillary's plan will harness both public and private capital to:

-Fix and expand our roads and bridges, reducing congestion and cutting the “pothole tax.” Hillary will make smart, targeted investments to repair America’s roads and bridges, increase capacity, improve road quality, and reduce congestion—saving wasted time and money for drivers across the country. Clinton will also make key transportation investments to help farmers and manufacturers reach their customers and suppliers more efficiently.

-Expand public transit options to lower transportation costs and unlock economic opportunity. Hillary will increase investments in public transit to connect Americans to jobs, spur economic growth, and improve quality of life in our communities. She will also encourage local governments to work with low-income communities to ensure the unemployed and underemployed are connected to the jobs they need.

-Connect all Americans to the digital economy with 21st-century internet access. Hillary believes that high-speed internet access is not a luxury; it is a necessity for equal opportunity and social mobility in a 21st-century economy. She will finish the job of connecting America’s households to the internet with a commitment that by 2020, 100 percent of households in America will have access to affordable broadband. She will also invest new resources in bringing free Wi-Fi to public buildings and public transportation.

-Accelerate aviation technology and invest in American airports. Hillary will invest in building world-class American airports and get the Federal Aviation Administration's “NextGen” program back on track to modernize our national airspace system. These changes will reduce carbon emissions and save travelers and airlines an estimated $100 billion in avoided delays over the next 15 years.

-Build a faster, safer, and higher-capacity passenger rail system. Hillary will invest in a world-leading passenger rail system to meet rapidly growing demand and build a more mobile America.

-Build energy infrastructure for the 21st century. Hillary’s plan will unlock America’s clean energy potential by modernizing infrastructure like dams, levees, and wastewater systems—saving billions of gallons in clean drinking water and generating clean energy.

Hillary will fully pay for these investments through business tax reform.

I checked out Bernie's campaign positions to compare.

BERNIE SANDERS ON INFRASTRUCTURE

America has one of the oldest rail systems in the world — woefully inadequate for a 21st-century society. Many of us may remember the images of the Minneapolis Bridge collapsing in Minnesota in 2007. Bernie sees rebuilding our infrastructure as a way to both create jobs and address the rampant infrastructure problems that are accumulating in our country.

Rebuild America’s Infrastructure: Our roads, bridges, dams, grids, and more have not kept up with the pace of our country’s growth, or the advances in technology. We have to take action.

Rebuilding Will Provide Jobs: Put Americans to work on addressing our infrastructure problems with well-paying jobs that will contribute to economic growth for families and communities across the country.

Rebuild America’s Infrastructure

Bernie believes we are long overdue to refurbish our country’s infrastructure. Any American who deals with potholes, slow internet service, and the unavailability of public transit – among other numerous and regular inconveniences – knows this first-hand.

What is infrastructure?
Infrastructure is the basic physical stuff which makes our civilization work: roads, bridges, dams, electrical grids, railways, airports, waterways, and phone and internet lines. Well-maintained infrastructure increases transportation efficiency, decreases threats posed by natural disasters, and promotes economic growth.

The most identifiable piece of American infrastructure is the Interstate Highway System. This development was signed into law by Republican president Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1956. Its benefits have been overwhelmingly positive for both business and everyday citizens.

Is our infrastructure really “crumbling”?
Yes. In its annual report card on the nation’s infrastructure, the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) gave the United States a cumulative grade of D+. In 2010 alone, it was estimated that deficiencies in surface infrastructure from potholes and outdated rail lines to collapsing bridges cost us $130 billion between property damage and lost time.

Recent examples of bridge collapses in California, Washington, Texas, Missouri, and Minnesota only serve to underline this growing problem. Here’s the video from Minnesota in 2007
While arguing to garner to support for his proposed infrastructure legislation, Bernie expounded:

“America once led the world in building and maintaining a nationwide network of safe and reliable bridges and roads. Today, nearly a quarter of the nation’s 600,000 bridges have been designated as structurally deficient or functionally obsolete. Let’s rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. Let’s make our country safer and more efficient. Let’s put millions of Americans back to work.”

How can we afford investing $1 trillion in infrastructure?
We can’t afford not to! According to a report by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), federal spending on transportation and water infrastructure since 2003 has decreased by 19 percent (23 percent with respect to new infrastructure) while only a 6 percent increase in spending on operations and maintenance has developed in its place. According to the aforementioned ACSE report:

24.9 percent of bridges are functionally obsolete or structurally deficient, over which more than 200 million trips are taken daily
42 percent of major urban highways are congested, costing us $101 billion annually and increasing carbon emissions
32 percent of roads are in poor or mediocre condition, which adds up to a cost of $324 per motorist every year
It’s clear that our infrastructure needs serious help. But where’s the money coming from?
The most important point is that rebuilding our infrastructure is an investment in our economic future. Independent studies show that, in the short-term, non-residential construction generates nearly twice as much economic activity as money spent ($1.92 per $1 spent). This means that for every dollar we put into our infrastructure, we get almost two dollars back in immediate economic impact. The long-term impact is even more significant at well over three times what we spend ($3.21 per $1 spent).

More, as Bernie has noted, the cost of the Iraq war — which included rebuilding much of the infrastructure that was destroyed — is now hovering at $1.7 trillion dollars. Bernie has introduced a number of bills to curb corporate tax dodging, which would account for over half of the required revenue in addition to the previously mentioned savings. Investing in infrastructure boosts our economy now and saves money long-term.

Rebuilding Will Provide Jobs

Bernie believes that the fastest way to create millions of jobs is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure; he’s been saying so for decades! In his introduction to the The Rebuild America Act of 2015, he noted, “There’s a reason that investing in our infrastructure has traditionally enjoyed bipartisan support in Congress. It’s a good idea. It creates jobs, income, profits and tax revenues. It lays a foundation for the efficient operation of our economy in the future.”

How does investing in infrastructure help the economy?
Fixing our infrastructure would give American workers good-paying jobs, stimulate our economy, and boost our national productivity.

According to a research paper by Standard & Poor, infrastructure investment would create about 29,000 construction jobs for a mere $1.3 billion in spending, and many more jobs indirectly. Additionally it estimated a $2 billion growth in real GDP for the same amount, making it a deficit-negative investment.

Bernie has suggested a conservative estimate of 13 million good paying jobs for the 5-year, $1 trillion investment. Forbes, on the other hand, puts the estimate at closer to 27 million for a similar $1.2 trillion investment over 5 years.

Increased jobs result in increased spending among average Americans, which further stimulates economic growth in other sectors. Increased efficiency results in lower transportation costs, as well as saving companies and individual citizens money on both fuel and time. Last, but not least, increasing the safety and reliability of infrastructure prevents extended damage and emergency repairs, avoiding the costs of medical emergencies, related property damage, and human lives.

What has Bernie specifically proposed to improve our infrastructure?
Bernie recently introduced the The Rebuild America Act of 2015, which would invest $1 trillion over the next 5 years toward rebuilding and expanding on our country’s infrastructure.

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-infrastructure/

Yes Bernie did introduce S. 268: Rebuild America Act of 2015. Unfortunately it's been in committee since January 2015.

Compare and contrast. HRC's positions supply much more specificity than Bernie's. Bernie is good at telling us everything that is wrong, without how he's going to accomplish it.

[2banon]

75. ..

<sigh>

[Fla Dem]

85. Well that was intelligent. Didn't want to stress your brain?

[2banon]

90. I'm sorry, do I need to clarify?

you posted an absolutely meaningless policy position list as if it were evidence of her "progressive" positions when they (her and Bill) return to the W.H.

Given that many of us don't need a refresher course on what actuallyhappened to us then, vs what he/they claime to stand for now..

well sometimes, it's just better to laugh at the ridiculousness of it all..

another poster in a different thread claimed that Sanders had to be dragged kicking and screaming to get him to finally talk about socio-economic issues.

the "huh?" factor seems to be at an all time high.

Your reality is not my reality, we live in different universes.

That's a problem for the ages, and one the Party Elites have yet to comprehend.

Hope this helps.

[senz]

96. Sherrod Brown said he wrote many of those issue statements for her.

Maybe he should have run for president.

[Nye Bevan]

63. Ummmm.... there's a tape of Romney saying that 47% of Americans are spongers? (nt)

[seabeckind]

68. Why yes there is, smuggled out by a worker

Shall we talk about a closed door speech? One where everyone who was in the room was vetted?

I wonder if they had to drop their electronics in a basket outside the room.

If you want to eliminate an accusation of impropriety, never do anything which might suggest it.

And the best way to clear the air is to clear the air.

[Motown_Johnny]

70. True, Hillary won't let us know what she said in all those closed door speeches.

So the distinction is that he got caught and she hasn't been (yet).

[Motown_Johnny]

71. If....

[eastwestdem]

72. You're so right, why oh why didn't we pick Sanders! Oh wait, because he got way fewer votes. nt

[tk2kewl]

74. this post has nothing to do with Senator Sanders

Thank you for participating

[onecaliberal]

77. Mitt will have the edge because he is not currently under criminal investigation by the FBI

For endangering national security.

[tk2kewl]

80. and all those Republicans currently going for Clinton over Trump...

Adios

[onecaliberal]

92. There aren't many. i don't buy that corporate meme.

It's sad that Clinton and her supporters would rather have republican votes than votes from Bernie supporters. There are MILLIONS of us.

[Broward]

82. She voted for the Iraq War. That's one contrast.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

87. but I thought Rubio was coming back

maybe the whole clown car will come back?

[HubertHeaver]

88. Which Hillary?

[senz]

97. The MSM would pull a switch & presto: Romney Fear 24/7.

Trump would be forgotten in an instant.

Same argument would ensue: if you don't vote for Hillary, you're electing Romney!

[stevenleser]

98. If...

Tick tock!

[RoccoR5955]

99. No.

Because there is none.

[Hoyt]

101. She'll kick his ass too. But thanks for the concern.

[NastyRiffraff]

102. Tick tock... n/t

[tk2kewl]

103. Legit question regardless of my primary preference

Dickery dock

[NastyRiffraff]

104. Tick tock...

Just a few more hours!!

[tk2kewl]

105. Dickery dock

[Samantha]

106. He supports the carried-over interest provision for wealthy income tax filers

and she has said she will end it.

Sam

[Orsino]

107. Well, one recently claimed to be a strong progressive...

...while the other once claimed to be a strong progressive.