2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCNN: No evidence of wrongdoing/No DOJ charges expected for HRC
Yeah, the article's main topic isn't exactly flattering but this is key:
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/10/politics/clinton-server-drone-fbi/
DCBob
(24,689 posts)This is what Hillary meant by "'over-classification run amok".
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)The denouement of this story will be coming shortly, thank God.
"NO CRIMINAL INTENT"--point, final.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)This part is from the old story:
brush
(53,977 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)What I have actually been saying is the Intelligence Community IG and FBI Reports will find HRC's actions implicated several federal felony statutes under the Espionage Act, particularly 18 USC 793 (e) and (f).
However, the decision to convene a Grand Jury is up to the Attorney General, and I believe that she will slow walk this up until the end of the Term, just like Janet Reno did with Deutch. On Bill's last day, he pardoned Deutch for similar acts of hooking up CIA laptops to his home internet.
What I have been hoping for is the Party leaders are smart enough to do a deal with Hillary in exchange for a pardon, she will turn over her delegates to Warren. We will see.
brush
(53,977 posts)The president would not put his legacy and reputation on the line by endorsing Clinton if he did not know there are to be no charges whatsoever.
Stop it already. You've invested way too much in your Quixotic quest.
It's over.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)I think it would be a crazy and unnecessary risk to the Party, from the top of the ticket down. They've had since March 2015 to put succession and contingency plans into effect for that outcome.
Obama's tepid endorsement doesn't mean they won't help her find the door at the optimal time.
brush
(53,977 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)We will see. If the FBI report comes out before the Convention, she's dead in the water. If not, all bets are off.
brush
(53,977 posts)IMO when it comes out, it'll be in a late Friday afternoon news dump when everyone has left DC for the weekend and it won't recommend any charges.
And it's months away.
unc70
(6,126 posts)Part of CNN story is itself copied and pasted from a much earlier series of CNN stories from months ago, before the SD IG report and before a lot of other revelations.
CNN and most news organizations have the habit of only updating the first few paragraphs as a story evolved, often leaving the bulk of the story unchanged over many weeks. This often leaves the current information in total contradiction with the bulk of the outdated article. The most egregious examples of this leave intact direct quotations from long ago as if they were freshly made. The CNN article is just a typical example of what passes for journalism these days. I wouldn't put much store in a months old paragraph in a sloppy bit of reporting, whatever one's own hopes or fears.
Bob41213
(491 posts)The OIG said emails were classified at the time they were sent and remain classified. The OIG has already debunked that Clinton talking point yet it keeps getting thrown around.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)Most suspects would love to know the police have nothing on them before they're interviewed.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Bad Dog
(2,025 posts)I don't think it will do anything other than get mentioned all the time by her opponents for the next x amount of years. It's not even reported over here, that's how likely it is.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,387 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)He would NEVER have put his integrity and his legacy on the line, if there was any hint that 'criminal' charges might be coming down.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)This is just another point in all this that lets me know, it is a lot about nothing.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I'm sure it won't get the amount of posts and likes the indictment fairy posts do but reality can be a bear sometimes.
6chars
(3,967 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... until the 16th. (Tick-tock!)
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)oasis
(49,484 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,719 posts)You are mean (WINK)
To a contingent at our august site this is tantamount to learning Christmas has been canceled.
obamanut2012
(26,183 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but they're not going to tip their hand while they're still investigating.
CNN has jammed two sentences together to make it look like the FBI's saying, "Yeah, we're going to talk to her, but there won't be any criminal charges." The first sentence is probably a fact. The second is the same unsourced rumor that CNN "reported" on several weeks ago, and it's spin.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,071 posts)If they are not investigating someone, they can say that there will not be charges against her. They are not investigating her. They can say they are not investigating you.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)And people who say they have found nothing are really in HEAVY denial. Do they not believe the reports of 2200 classified documents on her personal server of which at least 22 are top secret?
Just having those on that non government server IS A CRIME.
And we already know she had them. There is no question for anyone with a brain. The only question is if the DoJ will actually indict her. I'm pretty sure the FBI will recommend it. That is their job.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Does that mean an interview has now been scheduled?
brush
(53,977 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)brush
(53,977 posts)mcar
(42,467 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)NWCorona
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NWCorona
(8,541 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)Tarc
(10,478 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)25+ years of scrutiny by the Republicans and Conservatives and she take advise to have a email server setup that will handle some of the correspondents she got from the State Department.
Blue Idaho
(5,068 posts)That ran the state department. The FBI is dotting the i's and crossing the t's before putting this to bed. I for one am not going to carry water for the republicans on this one.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Clinton is the only one to set up a server to handle government communications in a private residence.
Very poor judgment regardless of the legal outcome.
And Powell used a commercial email account - probably on AOL. There is little doubt it's a bad idea - but given the choice of an email account on AOL, Yahoo, Google, etc. and a well run private server, I'm not sure which is the better of two bad ideas. Sec. Clinton herself admits in retrospect that it was a mistake. But was it criminal?
The FBI seems to think not.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Here it is again, watch Andrea Mitchell explain it you.
Blue Idaho
(5,068 posts)But it appears the FBI disagrees with Andrea Mitchell - Chuck Todd - and Morning Joe.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Gothmog
(145,894 posts)bigtree
(86,016 posts)Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)the rest of you get any ideas. Go 7 miles over the speed limit or be late buying that dog license and we'll get you.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)If there was evidence, Clinton should be charged and tried, as I would expect the average citizen to be.
It's also good because an indictment would be very bad for Dems, imo.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)LoverOfLiberty
(1,438 posts)it was clear his justice dept was not planning on bringing on an indictment.
But hope springs eternal for some.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)tells me that they should leave
pinebox
(5,761 posts)considering you've now said that multiple times.
Pro tip---you need us in a GE. Keep it up & you won't have us.
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)What are you on about?
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)the chairs and bottles thrown at Hillary's supporters in Nevada
how Barbara Boxer's life was threatened by Bernies supporters also Nevada
and just last Sunday how Puerto Rico had closed 2/3's of it's polling places at Bernie's 'request'
that CNN?
MsFlorida
(488 posts)Dredged up from a May 6th story
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