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truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:53 PM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders is a Senator from Vermont. He has no power in Puerto Rico!

The Establishment Candidate, one Hillary Clinton, has deep ties through her promotion of the military/industrial complex to sway the media.

The lies being told from the Corporate-controlled media and from the DNC are exactly what we progressives can expect!

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virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
3. I'm losing respect for you....I knew that you were a Hillary partisan, but....
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie has no power over the Democratic Party of Puerto Rico.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
11. Who did then?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:26 AM
Jun 2016

But here is what Sanders is stating about the matter:


Sanders Campaign Statement on Puerto Rico Polling Places



U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ campaign issued the following statement Sunday on long lines at polling places in Puerto Rico’s Democratic Party presidential primary election:

“Some Puerto Rico Democratic officials are claiming that the Sanders campaign requested fewer polling places in today’s primary contest. That’s completely false. The opposite is true. In emails with the party, Sanders’ staff asked the party to maintain the 1,500 plus presidential primary locations promised by the Puerto Rico Democratic party in testimony before the DNC in April, when the party was asking to have its caucus changed to a primary. They cannot blame their shoddy running of the primary on our campaign. This is just one example of irregularities going on in Puerto Rico voting today. We are the campaign that has been fighting to increase voter participation.”

https://berniesanders.com/press-release/sanders-campaign-statement-puerto-rico-polling-places/

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
16. It's seems rather useless to argue with any of them -
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:51 AM
Jun 2016

they are so far gone that they think the woman, Ortiz, who has "achieved" the top spot in terms of being the Committee Woman for The Democratic Party in Puerto Rico, a coveted spot you can only get by having DNC approval, is somehow not related to the fact that to get this top spot they have already vetted you and know you will speak their talking points. Which Ortiz seems only too happy to do.

So technically - she's not actually one of the Old Guard members of the DNC. But she is DNC approved official! And I bet we both know who told her to say what she said!

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
2. The walls are closing in
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jun 2016

Everyone is out to get the Sanders people. Mass conspiracies everywhere. Trust no one. They might be listening in now.....

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
13. Ah so there is the rub - just read what Ortiz is trying to
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:39 AM
Jun 2016

Fib about. Each PARTY, that is, both the Democratic and Republican Parties, are supposed to have personnel at each polling place to oversee the handling of the ballot distribution and collection. The poll workers DO NOT count the vote, though they do tally up how many people voted, based on the number of ballots turned in and accepted. These days I imagine that they use machines to count the votes, jsut as they do here in California.

Both Clinton and Bernie Sanders are Democrats - so why would there be a personnel problem?

Here in counties in California, we don't need Sanders personnel specifically to be in charge of the vote count. That is the Registrar of Voters job. Since oversight is needed, the Party provides personnel to handle that oversight in the form of polling place workers. Those workers here in California are assigned to each polling place and there are usually two election Democratic Party workers for each polling place.

There are also two Republican polling workers at each site.

To be a polling place worker, you sign up. The County Registrar of Voters office personnel selects a group of those who sign up, based on the Party they belong to but there is no consideration at all for whether that Democratic registered voter is a Bernie Supporter or a Clinton Supporter. Meanwhile they are also making sure that there are two Republican registered voters to be election place workers, as well.

I can't imagine that Puerto Rico is much different than the above.
And I assume they have a Registrar of Voters for each province or county in Puerto Rico also. (It is possible that the position is called something else.)
I am sure there were more than enough Democratic voters registered and willing to "volunteer" for the day. Although it is not really "volunteering, as you do get paid. Again the poll workers did not need to be Sanders people or Clinton people or a mixture - all they needed to be was Democratic Party registered voters.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
15. And do you really think that someone who happens to be the
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:47 AM
Jun 2016

National Committee Woman for the Democratic Party in Puerto Rico has no serious ties to the DNC?

If you think that, there is a bridge in Brooklyn I have for you a t a very reduced price, this weekend only!

These types of positions are only given to the inner circle of people, all DNC approved.

brush

(53,741 posts)
10. Why did the Sanders camp think he was going to win PR?
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:17 PM
Jun 2016

He usually doesn't do well with POCs.

Why did they think it was going to be different in Puerto Rico?

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
14. Your comment has no bearing on the topic.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jun 2016

I mean, you are free to be off topic, if you wanna be.

But the topic is not about whether Bernie or some of his supporters thought he would win in Puerto Rico.

It is about the less than truthful statements that Ortiz made. These statements put Bernie in a very bad light.

Please read my reply number 13 if you want some insight.

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