2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat Will You Be Wearing to History on Tuesday?
When History is made on Tuesday, after the polls close in New Jersey, and Secretary Clinton is recognized by the media as the Democratic Party nominee for President of the United States of America--the first female nominee for President of a major American political party--what will you wear to History?
I will be wearing a comfortable shoe, probably sneakers or hiking boots. (I could never wear flip-flops or sandals because that little piece of rubber or leather separating the Big Toe from his friends always felt weird to me.). I will have on shorts and a t-shirt, socks and clean underwear.
I would wear pearls, but I'm a guy, and I don't own any. I guess I could borrow a tasteful string for the occasion.
More importantly, I guess, is what will you be drinking to celebrate this Historic Event? Beer? Wine? Some manner of hard liquor? I'm not much of a drinker, but I do have some cooking wine and will probably break it out for a toast to our strong, hard-working, intelligent fighter!
Cheers to us!
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)any different.
Meanwhile back in reality...
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... sell a #NeverTrump t-shirt? I would love one of those, if available. The HRC baseball caps are very cool. Got to get my Hillary swag going!
Aerows
(39,961 posts)to the voting booth with your candidate's slogan. It breaches anti-electioneering laws.
Nobody needs to give anyone an opportunity to be disqualified from voting, and that's a big no-no.
MFM008
(19,803 posts)In 2018...Right? Right?....
grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)... must-have accessory for Tuesday. D'oh! Thanks for reminding me that a "huge smile" goes well with any outfit, on any occasion!
big_dog
(4,144 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)... the future.
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)After seven years of being spoiled by having Barack Obama as President, I want more of the same with Secretary Clinton.
Matt_R
(456 posts)or does it not bother you in 2016.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... except for faux conspiracy theories and RWTPs. I voted and campaigned for Senator Obama because I lived in Illinois at the time and knew how incredibly special he was. While I was watching, intently, the race for Illinois' Senate seat, it dawned on me that one of the two, Obama or Ryan, would one day be President.
Secretary Clinton won me over with her gracious speech at the 2008 DNC, her excellent work as SOS, and after reading and watching her speeches. After going through 2008, I already knew she had a formidable intelligence and was a fearsome debater.
Matt_R
(456 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)its stuffed full of republican bull &^&%$.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)MFM008, I will give really young people the benefit of the doubt, but anyone 25 years or older should know that that's the Republican con--they go with ginned-up scandals. I say 25 years because anyone that old has lived as an adult through the GOP trying everything to get at President Obama, from birtherism to Acorn to the purchase of his home in Illinois to the IRS picking on conservative groups to Fast and Furious to Benghazi to Solyndra and on and on.
That's all they got. Seems, unfortunately, to be all Senator Sanders' supporters have as well. Cheers!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)despite the corporate media trying to make it something it is not.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)But I'll get over it ... with cooking wine!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)and a bernie win in cali is gonna be real nice....
sadz? no way!
NV Whino
(20,886 posts)Let us know the results.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)so I'll be out a good part of the day in old jeans, t-shirt and tennies, with the radio tuned to the election results.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)I'm going with "comfortable" as well. Here's hoping your weather plays nice with you.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of my coolest summer cooler, vodka and water over ice, no mint or lemon needed. Reportedly Hillary likes vodka martinis, but we're out of vermouth. Cheers to all of us.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)Have fun!
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)That's why she's my soulmate and got my vote
Tortmaster
(382 posts)but many of my friends love'em! Cheers!
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)That would be my raggedy old sweat pants and equally raggedy t-shirt.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)brooklynite
(94,483 posts)...to the victory party at the Brooklyn Navy Yard.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... envious: Haha!
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:22 AM - Edit history (1)
I saw he's doing a fundraiser in NY on Wednesday.
Would be cool if he came out to introduce her.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... New York that day as well. It would be cool if he introduced her on Tuesday, but for best effect, I would save the introduction for July 25, 2016, making it a nomination speech for the ages.
I think that that would be incredibly powerful, and I wouldn't want to dilute it. Cheers on you, joshcryer!
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Both Clinton's and Obama have SS details. Obama can't go anywhere without making a scene. So he could go here because of all the SS being around for the finality of the primary. But the tweet I saw days he'd be there Wednesday, not Tuesday, not sure if he'd be there in time anyway.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)floppyboo
(2,461 posts)Hot chocolate with whisky maybe. Then a big bowl of weed and deep sleep till July
Tortmaster
(382 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)That was the year Margaret Thatcher became the first female Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. And she was terrible and many people wish she had never held that office.
To hell with identity politics.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)They are unbecoming a supporter of Senator Sanders. You should try to do better. If breaking glass ceilings mean nothing to you, why do you post on a Democratic website? We celebrate that stuff!
By the way, the contra example would be: Why would anybody want to elect another white, male empty suit like George W. Bush?
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I'm not about to celebrate a terrible candidate being nominated just because she has a vagina instead of a penis.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... an empty suit just because he was a man. Have you read Senator Sanders' interview with the Editorial Board of The New York Daily News? The man is clueless.
I knew this well before that when I watched one of his first interviews with Wolf Blitzer on CNN. During the interview, Sanders was asked how he would get his secondary education plans past a divided Congress. He said--and I shit you not--that he would have "a million" or so "young people" march on Washington!
That was his plan.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... many countries in Europe and around the world have already had female heads of state. As paternalistic as India is, they had a female HoS decades ago.
Israel's first female Prime Minister, Golda Meier, actually lived in Milwaukee at a time when women in the United States couldn't vote.
That blows my mind.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Now where have I heard those words...I remember now Fox New...I think it was Sean Hannity...ah it could have been any of them...it is a right-wing meme.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)It perfectly sums up what I see from many of the Anointed One's supporters. I always cringe when I see Hillary Clinton being female as a valid reason to support her. I vote on a candidate's policy, not their genitalia.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... Anti-Democratic beliefs against milestones and making Civil Rights history, you throw in some anti-PC. You will find a lot of support for those positions on Fox News and AM radio, my friend.
By the way, have you read or listened to Senator Sanders' interview with the Editorial Board of The New York Daily News? How could you support anyone, man or woman, that clueless? Why would you back somebody so uninterested in his only talking points that he failed to do any homework?
Seriously, he sounded like a city version of one of the characters from Green Acres. Your vote, and our country, deserve better.
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)And if all you have to defend your candidate is to accuse her critics of being sexist, then you have absolutely nothing. You wanna know what's really clueless? Voting for a war based on lies that gets thousands of people killed for absolutely no reason and refusing to admit it was a mistake for years afterward. Maybe you just want to sweep that under the rug like it's no big deal, but not me.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)Besides being clueless like a character from Green Acres--watch Sanders' New York Daily News interview--he has also been instrumental in supporting the gun culture in America. If you want to count dead bodies, the wounded, and hospital vigils, I would suggest you consider the 15 million Americans killed or wounded by guns since the first of Senator Sanders' 15 pro-NRA votes, my friend.
And the rest of your argument is a strawman. I have many reasons for voting for Secretary Clinton. Fifteen million reasons is just a start.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)Connect the dots.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)are vagina voters...is that your point? I hope your candidate is worth such a betrayal of all the women in your life. That is exactly what I am talking about...the condescending dismissal of any woman's support of Hillary as vagina politics...while real men such as yourself go for Sanders...because let's face it you boys know best...what women should think or feel about any issue. Why thanks so much! How could we ever manage without your invaluable 'help'. Our lady parts, why they just make us completely incapable of running our own lives and picking a candidate that we like. I am sure you and Bernie will make every effort to save us from our rogue lady parts...regards
Terry
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)You're childish and a waste of time. It's clear that your gimmick is to keep accusing me of being a sexist even though I've said absolutely nothing remotely of the sort so I'm not going to play along. Find another stooge.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)From the start of the Sanders campaign I've constantly wrinkled my nose at the anti-PC and misogynistic whiffs wafting from Sanders' supporters and his campaign.
Sanders, himself, seems to believe a couple extra dollars an hour (that he couldn't get anyway) would end racism, misogyny and bigotry forever and ever.
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)agreement. I have been enraged by Bernies disregard of women's issues which are really human issues like abortion rights and equal pay for women...he called abortion rights a distraction. He never mentions it in his speeches. And the way he has treated, Hillary is disgusting...no man would have had to put up with Sanders.
sister_rosa_refried
(447 posts)Because heads will be exploding in here.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)But funny!
floppyboo
(2,461 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)chillfactor
(7,573 posts)I vote in New Mexico..our 27 delegates will almost put Hillary over....I can hardly wait to vote for Hillary on Tuesday! She has strong support here....projected to win by 53%.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)That's a landslide! I voted for Secretary Clinton down here in South Carolina, and she won it by a landslide. I was determined to vote anyway because I wanted to be a teeny-tiny part of history.
I cherish my votes for President Obama, and I think Secretary Clinton will work just as hard as he did, even to just be a great role model. (i.e. the Jackie Robinson effect). Cheers to you!
redkwamya
(17 posts)Let's hear that ROAR everyone! First major party female nominee in the history of the USA. I can hear that giant cracking sound in the glass ceiling. Let's bring it down New Jersey and California - do it right!!!!
Tortmaster
(382 posts)Wish I could be there, too!
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)Along with an empty wallet, because when Hilliary is declared the candidate and runs against Drumpf, I will still have them after the election. The only exceptions are that I will have to work more for less money, and pay more for my health insurance, because Hilliary wants to give more to them, and Drumpf wants to let them take over. So I will still be chained to the job, and my wallet will be emptier.
If it comes down to Hilliary or Drumpf, we are ALL screwed.
You might want to sell those pearls while you can, to some rich establishment figure, and the same with you wine. You'll be lucky to get an "America" beer, after they make us more broke than we already are.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... you'd need to work if Senator Sanders was elected. I get it.
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)but I do think that my Social Security will be protected, and the minimum wage will go up to a living wage, and the banks will be reined in if Sanders is elected.
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)The appropriate color to wear for mourning the death morals and values in this country
rock
(13,218 posts)Wait -- That doesn't sound right. Nobody wants that!
Tortmaster
(382 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)You learn something new every day on DU! Thanks!
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)Pantsuits for all
Hill yes!
Tortmaster
(382 posts)#NeverTrump
And I'm with you!
basselope
(2,565 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)... and then I will laugh.
basselope
(2,565 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)Seriously, you need to read or watch Senator Sanders' interview with the Editorial Board of The New York Daily News. We dodged a bullet. He reminded me of a city version of one of the characters from Green Acres. Or that Don Knotts character from Three's Company.
Not Presidential timbre, and speaking of Trump....
basselope
(2,565 posts)Clinton won't win.
Guaranteed. She has no path.
That's fucking hilarious! You are a comedian! My prediction is a wave election that nets for Democrats the Supreme Court for a generation, the Senate and the House. The latter depends on a good running mate like Julian Castro, Joaquin Castro, or Tom Perez to engender optimal enthusiasm among Hispanics and youth.
It depends on how confident Secretary Clinton feels. Even with the safe bets, Brown, Kaine or Biden, it would be an electoral map landslide of 2008-Obama-like proportions. Just my opinion, but book it!
basselope
(2,565 posts)I've never been wrong in a presidential prediction.
Not once.
Clinton has no path.
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)I won't be wearing much of anything by the time the party's over
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... of liquor in a cabinet specially made for that purpose? You have opened up whole new worlds to me! Sounds like you're gonna have a great time. Be sure to post pictures while you're still drunk!
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)And yes: a cabinet just for booze. (Actually, it's my pantry....)
Tortmaster
(382 posts)😄
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mac56
(17,566 posts)getting ready for no other choices once TPP kicks in.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)(1) Secretary Clinton came out against the TPP deal, and (2) it is actually cheaper to manufacture goods in the United States now than in the average factory of our trading partners?
As for number two, above, it was much, much cheaper to manufacture elsewhere in the 1990s and early 2000s. Look it up. You won't have to feel so dour on this Historic occasion.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)she will dot a tee, cross an I and declare it holy.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)re-worked, would be? Be specific. It is cheaper to manufacture in the United States, comparatively speaking, than it was in the 1990s (think cheap natural gas). Also, if you claim that the arbitration provisions will be THE DEATH OF DEMOCRACY like Senator Sanders claims, then I know that you, like him, have not done your homework.
The US is 13-0 in arbitration matters under NAFTA. That's a fact. And if you look up the old WTO and GATT arbitrations, you'll find that they didn't end Democracy. In fact, some of the matters are 30-years old because the United States doesn't have to abide by any ruling, or it can offer a compromise (i.e. 20% off each pallet of widgets).
The environmental benefits (over-fishing and deforrestation provisions, among others) of the TPP would be lost because we'd have no other leverage, and, finally, there's the potential of ceding these emerging markets to China.
I don't know if the TPP would be good or bad. If you claim that you do, you are not credible.
The important thing to do is to penalize and tax American companies that off-shore jobs. I think Secretary Clinton and President Obama understand that. I know that Senator Sanders is off in left field on the issue of the TPP. I have read his statements on the subject, and they are childish, as in something I would expect as homework from a not-completely-unintelligent junior high school student.
SwampG8r
(10,287 posts)What she means is rivht now there isnt anything in it for her personally to.profit from
When the checks clear.she will.sign on to it
mac56
(17,566 posts)Are these union shops? Never mind, I know the answer.
So happy you're enjoying your role as Pollyanna the Glad Girl.
postatomic
(1,771 posts)I'm going with Boxer Shorts and a Smile.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)We must have pictures!
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)pretty sight.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)That obliges you to post pictures!
#NominationNitePICS
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)With a vodka soda and lime in hand. I don't get to wear it much these days
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... very special occasions. I have a T-ball coach's t-shirt that gets the same treatment from me, redstateblues.
P.S. I haven't posted here much over the last couple of years--I've been at daily kos--but I've seen and appreciated your input around here.
Matt_R
(456 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)in the home arena/stadium, even if you had bought tickets for it. Sometimes the series is over in four, five or six games.
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)I'm sure you'll be styling, MohRakTah!
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Will be wearing these Hillary 2016 tees with our Blue Jeans...
And eating Veggie Pizza, home made Snicker doodles and drinking Sparkling Apple Cider, amongst other delicious vegetarian delights....
Tortmaster
(382 posts)Love the t-shirts. Very fashionista!
k8conant
(3,030 posts)according to Bill Clinton.
However, I'd prefer my New Found Glory T-shirt and jeans. (Is that ok to wear if I happen to get elected on June 11th as a WV delegate to the convention in Philadelphia?)
Tortmaster
(382 posts)Sounds like you have excellent options. We need #NominationNitePICS.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... a BIG FAT SMILE, and will treat myself to a few gin-and-tonics.
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... the libations of our choosing!
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)I think stripes and handcuffs would be the appropriate dress.
mac56
(17,566 posts)Tortmaster
(382 posts)Please leave your guns--all of them--and your brains with the doorman.
UMTerp01
(1,048 posts)My partner and I are throwing a victory party at our house on Tuesday. I will be in my Ralph Lauren best. Thinking of this...
Tortmaster
(382 posts)You're encouraging me to dress up. And doing an excellent job of it!
peace13
(11,076 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Of course, I voted in Massachusetts on Super Tuesday and I would not wear a Bernie shirt to the polling place lest I offend Bill.
Brother Buzz
(36,408 posts)I'll be wearing the same old shorts I put on in the morning, and She Who Must be Obeyed, the Boston transplant, will be wearing one red sock and one orange sock; she's conflicted.
Go Giants!
Tortmaster
(382 posts)... cross over. I still wear my Illini colors in South Carolina. People accuse me of supporting Clemson! The Horror!
Cheers to you, and have fun at the game!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)this is not the only race that counts, and some of my local issues will make a more direct impact to people's lives. That is the brutal truth. Plus I will probably have to hunt for that speech again.
KULawHawk
(97 posts)Has the FBI announced a press conference?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)to prove you're a sore loser. That's pathetic.
Contrary1
(12,629 posts)I'm saving up for the coronation duds.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Which is sort of fucked up, if you ask me. Given that booze is significantly more hazardous to one's health.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And sipping vodka and diet cokes while I watch history being made.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)to mourn the death of the Democratic party.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Typical evening lounge wear
VulgarPoet
(2,872 posts)that she doesn't haul off and kill more of my brothers and sisters in arms over the New Age Vietnam. I'll probably be holding my breath on that one till maybe her sixtieth day in office when she tries to get another troop surge authorized, but y'all don't give a damn about that, I've come to realize. Just keep putting more warheads on foreheads in places we invaded and clearly aren't welcome, right?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)gopiscrap
(23,733 posts)at the rigging of our electoral system. At the sorrow for such a corrupt campaign being waged under the Democratic banner. Bernie got screwed all year long.
aikoaiko
(34,165 posts)If he is still campaigning for votes I'll be helping him.j
Sky Masterson
(5,240 posts)At the funeral of my present status as a Democrat.
Black for the lack of integrity of people I once respected like Maddow and most of the sellouts at MSNBC.
Black for the fact that we are giving Trump what he wants. A weak candidate that is a living GOTV machine for the Republicans.
The loss is going to piss so many off.
You reap what you sow.