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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:37 PM Jun 2016

Months after the primary, I'm still seeing dozens of Bernie yard signs, and *no* Hillary signs.

What does the complete lack of any visible signs of support for Hillary say about her elusive base of supporters? And what does the plethora of Bernie signs everywhere say about Hillary's ability to unify the party?

What is the neighborhood sign situation where you live??? Please weigh in with your "anecdotal" observations.

I'm in Massachusetts, btw, a state that Hillary supposedly "won" back in March. (I don't buy it for a minute, though.)

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Months after the primary, I'm still seeing dozens of Bernie yard signs, and *no* Hillary signs. (Original Post) reformist2 Jun 2016 OP
I still see Ron Paul Bumper Stickers Trenzalore Jun 2016 #1
I see Obama stickers everywhere. But no Hillary ones - anywhere. reformist2 Jun 2016 #12
I had a Hillary yard sign out in April for the PA primary Trenzalore Jun 2016 #27
I'm on the NH/VT border and it's all Bernie all the time. Vinca Jun 2016 #2
Same over here in the east side of the state. bunnies Jun 2016 #4
A yard sign doesn't vote. People do. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3
And there wouldn't be any correlation right? nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #8
apparently not - the OP reports no Hillary signs, yet we know the delegate counts, don't we DrDan Jun 2016 #17
It is a bit unusual don't you think? I wonder if it could mean something. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #20
no - I don't think so - it will change during the GE DrDan Jun 2016 #22
Then we differ in opinion. LOL, but I already knew that. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #28
then what is your explanation for the lack of Hillary yard signs? DrDan Jun 2016 #34
Sorry, I am not allowed to say here. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #36
That literally nobody supports HRC and every vote for her was fraud. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #38
yeah . . . that must be it . . . DrDan Jun 2016 #40
Ah the Peggy Noonan litmus test: She preditcted Romney would win because of all the Yard Signs out riversedge Jun 2016 #53
Apparently not, since Bernie is losing. (or has already lost). Hillary got millions more votes. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #56
Peggy Noonan only saw Romney signs in 2012 and wrote a long editorial about it emulatorloo Jun 2016 #5
I do not trust Peggy Noonan. You? nt stillwaiting Jun 2016 #30
Of course not! Lol emulatorloo Jun 2016 #46
That does it. It's clearly over. Why is Hillary even trying? nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #6
Her supporters aren't doing much of anything to show their support. reformist2 Jun 2016 #13
not much . . . except to actually show up and vote DrDan Jun 2016 #37
Ding Ding YOU WIN! riversedge Jun 2016 #55
We're voting. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #42
Mine goes up on June 8. MineralMan Jun 2016 #7
Perhaps the Hillary campaign took a cue from the movies, where they clone extras into the background highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #9
I have a HRC sign and a few bumper stickers. MADem Jun 2016 #10
I don't think it's a very good indicator A Little Weird Jun 2016 #11
I'm not claiming that there is a 1:1 correspondence, but there is NO sign of support for her. reformist2 Jun 2016 #15
1,769 - 1,501 is a pretty "strong sign of support for her" DrDan Jun 2016 #41
Except peggysue2 Jun 2016 #50
I am in Oregon (Portland) and it's Bernie central out here. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #14
Her base has been less elusive at the polls than sanders onenote Jun 2016 #16
Many of us don't plop signs in our yards, or plaster our bumpers. We support her at the polls. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #18
So she had scads of enthusiastic fans, who are all unified in their aversion to yardsigns. Amazing. reformist2 Jun 2016 #23
Not fans, *supporters*. Voters. She's a candidate, not One Direction. We have no need for "merch" PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #25
how did Ron Paul do ? JI7 Jun 2016 #19
I haven't seen a single Hillary lawn sign or bumper sticker here. Lot's of Bernie bumper stickers. imagine2015 Jun 2016 #21
Where I live in FL Raissa Jun 2016 #24
there are certainly trump signs in the yards in my neighborhood - also Florida DrDan Jun 2016 #43
Depressing. Raissa Jun 2016 #59
I don't see any signs here in Brooklyn. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #26
Here in Austin I see at least a couple of Bernie stickers every day while driving. hobbit709 Jun 2016 #29
We really have come full circle in GDP n/t Godhumor Jun 2016 #31
+1 NCTraveler Jun 2016 #39
In So. Calif. there are plenty LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #32
I live in Madison, WI a strong Bernie area and I see Hillary signs book_worm Jun 2016 #33
Not a chance I would put one in my yard. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #35
I'm in California, the East Bay, near Oakland. 2banon Jun 2016 #44
Border Illinois/Wisconsin Bjornsdotter Jun 2016 #45
OK Dem2 Jun 2016 #47
I still have my Bernie sign out, my bumper sticker on car, and big pin on coat Arazi Jun 2016 #48
More bumper stickers now than during the primaries unc70 Jun 2016 #49
Maybr they think they can still swing the primary RandySF Jun 2016 #51
Just to clarify: She won MA by one delegate after Bubba hit four polling places in the state. merrily Jun 2016 #52
I see nothing but Hillary signs and bumper stickers. n/t Lil Missy Jun 2016 #54
There are 4 signs still up in my neighborhood (St Pete, Florida) demwing Jun 2016 #57
Peggy Noonan thought that worked as a predictor rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #58
We don't open money on yard signs...we donate and we vote. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #60
Signs don't vote MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #61
Hillary for Prison 2016 osaMABUSh Jun 2016 #62
I've seen those as well... in Massachusetts. reformist2 Jun 2016 #63
Mine will stay up through November. n/t PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #64
In Tulsa Runningdawg Jun 2016 #65
The Establishment doesn't need signs. Orsino Jun 2016 #66
So much for sign, I guess. arely staircase Jun 2016 #67
I don't have a Hillary sign in my yard Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #68
"what does the plethora of Bernie signs everywhere say..." ? Tarc Jun 2016 #69
This is like saying that people who don't get visible tattoos qdouble Jun 2016 #70
These are popping up in my neighborhood ... Scuba Jun 2016 #71
Mine is still up. Still see Bernie signs on various streets. mmonk Jun 2016 #72

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
27. I had a Hillary yard sign out in April for the PA primary
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jun 2016

I moved it into the garage to the fall. Don't want it to get damaged or stolen.

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
2. I'm on the NH/VT border and it's all Bernie all the time.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:41 PM
Jun 2016

But I spotted one exception. About a mile from my house there is a yard with about a dozen Trump signs. Very disturbing.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. Mine goes up on June 8.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jun 2016

Along with all of my other yard signs for candidates. Drive by, and you'll see it then.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
9. Perhaps the Hillary campaign took a cue from the movies, where they clone extras into the background
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jun 2016

of scenes.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. I have a HRC sign and a few bumper stickers.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jun 2016

I'll leave them to future generations--they'll be worth a fortune some day!

But DISPLAY them? Hell no! What's the point?

Anyone who is so stupid that they'd vote for someone because they see a sign on a stranger's lawn is probably too dumb to find the polling booth on election day. Signs and bumper stickers make the OWNER of them feel good. They're also attractants to vermin who would wish you ill--there are TRUMPeters who just might want to key your car for your Bernie sticker, or poison your dog for your yard sign.

This is a weird world--why invite trouble by announcing to people who don't give a shit about you who you are voting for? It's more "LOOK AT ME" than "Support my candidate."

Further, I think that the type of people who vote for HRC don't have a need to "Rah rah" and hoot-n-holler. They just get up off their ass and go vote. Quietly and with determination.

Also, I have found that the number of signs is inversely proportional to the likelihood of victory. Massachusetts was STINKIN' from all the Romney 4 Prez signs--that didn't work out too well for him, did it?

I'm in MA, too--and I'm not seeing many signs for anyone. A few "BERNIE" bumperstickers, and the very odd Trump hat on the street -- but that pretty much bears out my thesis. Because ALL my neighbors voted for Clinton.

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
11. I don't think it's a very good indicator
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jun 2016

In my red state, I see quite a few Bernie signs and tons of bumper stickers and no Hillary signs and a few bumper stickers. And tons of Trump signs/bumper stickers.

In general, I've observed that Hillary supporters aren't excited about her - they see her as inevitable. (I'm sure there are exceptions who are very excited about her, I just don't encounter them.) But signage doesn't give an indication of how many people are out there that feel that way. Supporting someone you feel is inevitable is not really something that inspires you to put up a sign. Bernie supporters on the other hand, are fired up and realize they have a huge climb. They want to get the message out - so signs make sense.

There's definitely an enthusiasm gap between the candidates. Unfortunately, it seems most voters are willing to just go with the flow and take whoever the media and the "powers-that-be" deem appropriate.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
14. I am in Oregon (Portland) and it's Bernie central out here.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:06 PM
Jun 2016

I did see one Trump sticker the other day and had to speed up to get a good look at the fucker - and a fucker he was.


Cheers.

EDIT - I have only seen one HRC yard sign but it's in a commercial parking lot so... makes sense?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
18. Many of us don't plop signs in our yards, or plaster our bumpers. We support her at the polls.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jun 2016

We aren't 'fans' who are wooed , we're Democrats who understand the impact of this election, we GOTV and focus on the importance of that over rallies and merch.

Raissa

(217 posts)
24. Where I live in FL
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:19 PM
Jun 2016

I see Trump signs on the roadside (but not in yards) and have seen a small number of Hillary yard signs - mostly in the suburban area around the schools. A decent amount of Bernie bumper stickers though.

I don't personally do bumper stickers as I end up in red areas where people will mess up your car.

I do have Hillary mugs, and still have an Obama mug and wooden train.

Raissa

(217 posts)
59. Depressing.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:42 PM
Jun 2016

I'm in an area with a lot of wide open farmland and swamps and those long stretches are where I tend to see the Trump signs. I think there is a lot of support but local demographics make people more hesitant to own it. I'm thinking that the central ridge you'd see a lot more.

I saw a ton when I visited Indiana, but I was also there during their primaries.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
29. Here in Austin I see at least a couple of Bernie stickers every day while driving.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:24 PM
Jun 2016

I've seen a total of THREE Hillary stickers in the last 3 months.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
32. In So. Calif. there are plenty
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jun 2016

of Bernie signs/stickers. Have seen 1 Hillary sticker. It said "Hillary for prison 2016."

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
33. I live in Madison, WI a strong Bernie area and I see Hillary signs
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:27 PM
Jun 2016

not me I don't have one, but they are out there. Oh well, she just gets the votes and you guys get the yard signs and big rallies.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
35. Not a chance I would put one in my yard.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:29 PM
Jun 2016

Just down the street from me Sanders supporters vandalized a park. And they are sweethearts compared to Trump supporters.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
44. I'm in California, the East Bay, near Oakland.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:39 PM
Jun 2016

Not a Single Hillary sign any where in sight. Only Bernie signs dominate, I have seen one small Trump sign sort of discretely displayed in a window.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
45. Border Illinois/Wisconsin
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:45 PM
Jun 2016

I either see Bernie signs or Trump signs; I've seen a couple of Hillary bumper stickers, not Hillary signs.

unc70

(6,115 posts)
49. More bumper stickers now than during the primaries
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

I am in NC and in TN. I have not seen a single yard sign for any presidential candidate in either state. Not that many bumper stickers either, and they're rarely actually on the bumpers these days. So far, a few for Trump in TN and a couple in NC; one Cruz early in TN.

Have seen a couple for Hillary just in the last month, one in each state. They were the small (about 4 inch) "stealth" ones with just the H logo. They are easily missed. Seems like there was one regular Hillary sticker back during the primary in NC.

There were a few Bernie stickers back then, mostly in NC. I have seen a big increase in the number for Bernie just the last month in TN and in NC. Several dozen seen after the race was supposedly over.

Still a lot more Obama stickers around than all the others combined. Hell, I've probably seen more leftover Romney stickers than I have ones for Trump.

Don't know that any of this means anything. Maybe that bumper stickers and window decals have gone out of style. I did recently see a "Baby on Board".

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
57. There are 4 signs still up in my neighborhood (St Pete, Florida)
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:18 PM
Jun 2016

3 Bernie signs (2 of them mine) and 1 Trump sign.

I have never seen a Hillary sign here, not even in the week leading up to our primary.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
58. Peggy Noonan thought that worked as a predictor
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 03:20 PM
Jun 2016

Funny thing is I keep seeing, oh, three million more votes and two hundred more delegates for Hillary.

I've never had a yard sign or a bumper sticker for any candidate. I've also never missed voting in any election.

But whatever cheers you up in the off season after you lose!

Runningdawg

(4,517 posts)
65. In Tulsa
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:52 PM
Jun 2016

you see very few Democratic lawn signs. We are here, we have just learned not to advertise. The only one I have seen in my neighborhood recently was a Bernie sign. 2 cars in the drive with CA plates.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
66. The Establishment doesn't need signs.
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jun 2016

And its candidates don't tend to inspire passion. They still tend to win.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
69. "what does the plethora of Bernie signs everywhere say..." ?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 06:42 PM
Jun 2016

What it says is the same thing that Bernie's YUUUUGE rallies say; nothing of consequence.

This is the 21st century...digital media, social media, an abundance of technology to connect and network with people across vast distances, alleviating the need to be physically present to build support.

Bernie fans harping about "signs" and "rallies" is the equivalent of 19th-century textile workers championing their traditional ways while decrying the Industrial Revolution.

qdouble

(891 posts)
70. This is like saying that people who don't get visible tattoos
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 08:10 PM
Jun 2016

of their spouse aren't really in love. It's silly to try to use this as an indicator of support.

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