2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNaked Capitalism: First Steps Toward Replacing Hillary Clinton Already Taken?
Mr. Obama and adviser Valerie Jarrett might begin sending signals to the Democratic National Committee and to the vice president that a Biden rescue operation wouldnt displease the White House [Wall Street Journal, Clinton Might Not Be the Nominee]. But Valerie Jarrett might begin sending signals jibes well with todays The White House Is Terrified the Clinton Campaign Is in Freefall.'
Prolegomena to gaming things out: (1) In a way, the outcome of the Clinton Email Hairball, whatever it may be, will be an instance of The Party Decides. For example: There are some forms of cancer that cannot be removed without killing the patient. The Clinton network may have metastatized too much for treatment. In which case, eat, drink, and be merry.
For Clinton to be removed: (2)(a) somebody will have to take her aside and explain. Under Nixon, that role was performed by a delegation led by Barry Goldwater. Perhaps Democrat insiders like John Podesta, who has a power base independent from the Clinton campaign, or Nancy Pelosi, who has not yet endorsed, could play a similar role. (2)(b) The White House would have to send a strong enough signal, through Valerie Jarrett. (Remember that Obamas inner circle is very small.) (2)(b)(i) Although Obama is a lame duck, he retains power over Loretta Lynch, even though Lynch is a long-time loyalist (see page 44). He also retains the power to pardon. He also retains the affection and loyalty of a large part of the Democrat base. And he has his library to think of. (3) No matter what Obama does: (a) the FBI leadership and Judicial Watch are independent power sources, and (b) the worker bees at State and FBI are really fed up and ticked off with Clinton (and for good reason). (4) No matter what Clinton does: She will retain the affection and loyalty of a large part of her own base. (I remember vividly, though possibly not correctly, WaPos coverage of the Iowa 2008 caucus, which Clinton unexpectedly lost to Obama, where the young punk reporter mocked some older women sitting sadly in an empty high school auditorium, mourning their loss, and thinking somethings not right, here.) (5) You cant beat something with nothing. If Clinton is to be removed, there has to be a candidate willing to replace her at the top of the ticket; #NeverTrump was a fiasco because nobody (credible) could be found. I think if the party decides on Biden, they will be in a lot more trouble than they bargained for. And Kerrys a loser. So who? (6) The formal way for the party to decide is for Clinton delegates, pledged and unpledged, to vote against her. Whos going to be the first delegate* to do that? (7) Nobody normal pays attention to the election before Labor Day. So the Democrat Party still has time to change course. But not a lot, especially if they go with a dark horse (like, say Sherrod Brown) and have to introduce them to voters. (8) The obvious face-saving maneuver for everyone is for Clinton to discover a previously unknown medical condition, and decide to spend more time with her family. Theres probably more to be said
This is an overly dynamic situation! (Oh, and: (9) Sanders had better not go up in any small planes. I cannot imagine the party deciding in his favor.)
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/06/200pm-water-cooler-612016.html
brooklynite
(95,012 posts)msongs
(67,502 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Considering the enormous implications of all matters. And the rapid speed that crucial events are coming up.
Better to have thought it all out and be prepared, no matter which side you are on.
Thanks, Amborin.
Demsrule86
(68,825 posts)and end this crap.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)Many supers will be greatly influenced by the crowds of Bernie supporters on the streets at the convention. They will vote for Bernie.
achsadu
(41 posts)Naked Capitalism is edited and managed by a right winger with questionable credentials. If you want to follow her you're on your own! Why don't you check the source? She provides it: "naked capitalism."
achsadu.
zazen
(2,978 posts)Why don't you check her credentials? A Clinton hater and a supporter of Judicial Watch.
achsadu.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)I checked and came up empty. What have you got?
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:18 PM - Edit history (1)
A hint, just because you don't like something because it's critical of your beloved Hillary doesn't make it right-wing.
In this case, your accusations just make you look silly: a blog written by a Wall Street insider turned whistleblower about the corruption of Wall Street and how government works to benefit those that are fixing the system at the expense of the public interest...is almost certainly not right-wing.
Smith hates Clinton for a reason that transcends the left-right political axis...because Clinton is a handmaiden of the Wall St. banking and investment cabal that Naked Capitalism works to expose as a government-condoned criminal enterprise.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)"Yves Smith" and Lambert are incredibly good reads about Wall Street/Real Life Challenges. Yves was all over the 2008 Bail Out of Wall Street (wrote a book about it)...and is very well respected in the International Financial Community for being a "Truth Teller/Observer with Creds."
As you say:
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Sums it up, precisely.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Demsrule86
(68,825 posts)and these guys MO is to reduce workers pay...great site...I am sure all the righties flock to the site...and of course...some 'democrats'.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Rather, articles are published regularly to inform workers of precisely what tactics industries use in order to reduce workers' power and thus their pay.
Righties hate that site.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)agreed.
Baobab
(4,667 posts)the US.
(want to reduce workers pay)
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Baobab
(4,667 posts)contrary to the representations by many here.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)It's amusing how obvious it is that some here have never read a word of NakedCapitalism.
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)Misuse of language casts the writer in a bad light. Use of the word "democrat" when "democratic" is appropriate shows a lack of attention to detail causing one to wonder what other details has the writer glossed over? If this individual can't be bothered to get that one right the reader should be compelled to check every detail.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)with no access to the rest of the internet?
I'd love to see how questionable your credentials are.
Demsrule86
(68,825 posts)I am sure that the White House tell this group of asses everything they plan.
"
Naked Capitalism is an American financial news and analysis blog that claims to "chronicle the large-scale, concerted campaign to reduce the bargaining power and pay of ordinary workers relative to investors and elite technocrats."
Oh and your link does not work...but there is a very similar story from that jerk Bernstein which has already been posted.
Link please.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)power of ordinary workers in order to empower ordinary workers with information of how they are being screwed.
So yes, it is a very nice source. She is also a
"a harsh critic of Wall Street who believes that fraud was at the center of the financial crisis."
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Ridiculous.
Nobody believes that.
Demsrule86
(68,825 posts)He has become a right wing shill...and has criticised Obama relentlessly.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Democrat is the proper noun. Joe Biden is a Democrat. Barak Obama is a Democrat. I am a Democrat. All three of us are Democratic voters.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)I don't get the Biden bashing. Biden would win the general election in a walk.