2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf the Left Won’t Support Hillary, Why Isn’t That Hillary’s Fault?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/if-the-left-wont-support-_b_9370086.htmlAn opinion piece from back on March 02 but still a good read.
Arkansas Granny
(31,538 posts)with popular vote, pledged delegates and super delegates. Most polls show her leading Trump with an expected bounce after she secures the nomination.
What you consider a good read sounds more like sour grapes to me.
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skylucy
(3,747 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)e.g., MSNBC To the deniers... Watch THIS Video... It is not comforting to think that she may well be the Democratic Nominee...
Hillary really betrayed Andrea Mitchell... The entire context of this report was of a solemn nature... A Funeral so to speak...
Andrea Mitchell "I do not see this report as ...ANYTHING BUT... DEVASTATING!"
Chuck Todd "After this I don't think that she could get confirmed for Attorney General!"
Lots of FIBBING by Hillary here.. for more than a year!
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)the extreme leftist...they have a choice....a trump america or not a trump america....and thats not a hillary problem
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Why do you think so many people have left the Democratic Party in the past four years? Who do you think has left? Not to issue a pun, but it's the left who has left.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)So the premise of the argument is flawed.
chwaliszewski
(1,514 posts)You have nothing to worry about. Hillary has got this. Trump doesn't stand a chance. Oh, look...a goldfish.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Trump is a candidate like no other. And the Republicans hate Hillary with a white hot passion. We are going to need to work our tails off to make sure turnout is high, especially among minorities. That's the key to defeating Trump, in my view.
Edit to add: As Bernie often says, when turnout is high, Republicans lose.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Tarc
(10,478 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Tarc
(10,478 posts)ProgressiveEconomist
(5,818 posts)infiltrated the Democratic Primary with no intention of ever supporting any member of the "democratic establishment", ie, anyone but Bernie. Sanders realized this; hence his call for "opening up" primaries to those who would destroy the party from within.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)This whole "get in line" frame is fundamentally based on our obligation to support her.
I don't feel that obligation.
kiva
(4,373 posts)Complete avoidance of the issue about why the left isn't supporting Hillary - instead a happy face "No, the left supports her...really, they do! Oh, and even though we know the left loves her and will vote for her without a threat, Trump."
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)"Childish"
"Insane"
"Trump-lover"
"Right-wing"
I'm none of the above. I'm not taking my ball and going home. I'm just not giving it the Hillary to play with. My vote is my own. I'll give it to someone I think deserves it. I've voted for the Democratic nominee every four years for 28 years, but if Clinton is the nominee, then my line in the sand is drawn: that is just too far right for me. I don't vote for Republicans because they are ruled by corporate-owned neocon war hawks. Why would I vote for a "Democrat" who's the same?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)The Party always assumed we'd have no where else to go - and we don't, technically, so this is going to amount to tough love. At some point, you have to stop enabling the continued move to the right by discontinuing your vote for them.
I hate Trump. I think he's a buffoon. But I can no longer vote for a party that puts up a candidate who might as well be a Nixonian Republican. It's just no longer representing me.
Honestly, I think Congress will stymie Trump and he might even help usher in some FDR Democrats in the mid-terms. But Hillary would have the support of the Third Way Dems and the Republicans to go to war and to cut Social Security, resulting in more devastation to the Middle Class.